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Re: Coyote Color Variations [Re: icducks] #2118300
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Originally Posted By: icducks
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I killed it about 1/2 mile from the city limits of albertville. Taxidermist said he was 99% sure it was crossed with a dog. Said he had never seen one like it. I shot it for a coyote at dusk and when I got to it thought I had shot someone's dog.


Something happened for sure. I grew up in that area and have never seen anything like that. Theres a lot of yotes and yard dogs crossing paths though so I could see how it could happen. Are you sure you just didnt shoot the neighbors dog and have it stuffed in your house. grin


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Re: Coyote Color Variations [Re: N2TRKYS] #2118302
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
[Those seem pretty small. Is that the average size that you see?


Five of six were females in the 30-35 lb range give or take. I think the one male was young and not really much bigger. Ive never really paid enough attention to it over the years while just hunting to be able to know if thats big or small. The next time Im in a sporting goods store Im gonna get some digital scales so we can check out some of them and see what kinds of weights were all running.

It looks theres the potential to have numerous blood lines in the lineage of the yotes running around our woods. When that book was published in 1909 it said there were no coyotes east of the Mississippi but identified numerous subspecies in the west overlapping a lot of wolf territory between here and there. The transition from what they had then to what we have now couldnt have been a perfectly clean one. Just look at that thing icducks killed.


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Re: Coyote Color Variations [Re: CNC] #2118325
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Originally Posted By: CNC
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
[Those seem pretty small. Is that the average size that you see?


Five of six were females in the 30-35 lb range give or take. I think the one male was young and not really much bigger. Ive never really paid enough attention to it over the years while just hunting to be able to know if thats big or small. The next time Im in a sporting goods store Im gonna get some digital scales so we can check out some of them and see what kinds of weights were all running.

It looks theres the potential to have numerous blood lines in the lineage of the yotes running around our woods. When that book was published in 1909 it said there were no coyotes east of the Mississippi but identified numerous subspecies in the west overlapping a lot of wolf territory between here and there. The transition from what they had then to what we have now couldnt have been a perfectly clean one. Just look at that thing icducks killed.



They look like foxes with longer legs. It could be that their size is deceiving in the pics.


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Re: Coyote Color Variations [Re: CNC] #2118347
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Re: Coyote Color Variations [Re: CNC] #2118632
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This is another snip it from the wolf and yote book written in 1909..........

In the western parts of the United States, the coyote is far more abundant than the grey, or timber wolf, but its range is more limited as it is found only in those parts lying west of the Mississippi River and in the western portion of the Dominion of Canada. As there are a number of varieties of the timber wolf, so it is with the coyote, but naturalists have never yet been able to agree on the number of types and their distribution. In the Southwest, it appears there are several distinct varieties, showing considerable difference in size and color. Mr. Vasma Brown, a noted coyote trapper of Texas has the following to say on the subject:

"I have lived in Texas nineteen years and have had some years of experience with the coyotes, coons and cats. Some coyotes are of a silver-grey color, others are dark brown. The ends of their hair are jet black and it makes them look brown. Some have black tips on the tail and some white. The dark variety are the most vicious of the two."

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Re: Coyote Color Variations [Re: CNC] #2118694
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We shot at an almost all black yote during turkey season.


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Re: Coyote Color Variations [Re: CNC] #2119242
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One more snip it from the book that I thought some of the other trappers would like. Reading some of the things in that book makes you realize that dealing with predators is really nothing new. This is the author speaking.

"In the season of 1903-04, I commenced trapping about November 25th, and stopped about March 1st. I used seven No. 2 Victor traps, but consider No. 4 a better size. In the ninety-six nights that I trapped, I caught 182 coyotes, 4 skunk, 12 opossum, 3 coons and 12 cats. I only trapped for coyotes, but these other animals came along and got caught. Had I been trapping for skunk, opossum and wild cat, I would have caught about 200 of each, but their pelts were not worth more than 10 cents each.

I took a piece of fresh meat and dragged it along a trail for about a mile. About every two hundred yards I set a trap. I scratched a hole in the ground just the size of the trap, put it in the hole and covered it up with a piece of paper and sprinkled dirt or sand upon it entirely concealing it. For bait, I cut some little pieces of meat and put about six or eight around the trap and then went on and set my other traps. I never failed to find two or three coyotes in my traps. My biggest catch in one night was six coyotes and one coon. I never use any scent. Fresh pork is the best scent that a person can use. I tie my traps to a log or a piece of brush.""


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