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Non GMO forage bean experiment #2114327
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I decided to go with non round up ready beans this year mainly because I have some round up resistant weeds and to see if I could save a dime or two. So far it is going better than I thought on both objectives. I started with a gly+prowl burn down about a week before I no till drilled the beans. It did well except for a wet spot here and there in one field prowl and wet ground don't mix. If I had it to do again I wouldn't go with a pre emergent with the gly burn down. I would save that money and go over the top with generic select and generic flexstar or cobra if needed. Also I would wait a little longer for the burn down to completely kill before planting I have a little insect problem in an acre or so my fault I new better. I have about 30 acres planted with about 30 more to plant next week. All of the first 30 are Tyrone soybean's but I can only get about 15 more bags so I may mix in some Derry,Laredo,and old stonewall's in one big field to fill the gap. I planted eagle beans for years so far the Tyrone's have a similar growth rate but it a over yet. Looks like I'll come in around $65 an acre seed/herbicide on the first 30 witch is about $35 less then eagle beans but like I said the jury is still out. I am also using a cheap homemade plot saver my little secret and yes it's high deer density it's Fitzpatrick and China Grove. If you can grow a go stand and leave the beans staying with and good seed yield over the winter in my opinion nothing will do more for a deer. Also I try to plant as early as I possibly can it cuts down on browse making them earlier to establish. Pics coming

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Sorry met for QDM topic anyhow this is one field from 45 days until now.<a href="http://s230.photobucket.com/user/dax414141/media/IMG_20170401_115137108.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee83/dax414141/IMG_20170401_115137108.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo IMG_20170401_115137108.jpg"/></a><a href="http://s230.photobucket.com/user/dax414141/media/9727.jpeg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee8<a href="http://s230.photobucket.com/user/dax414141/media/9886.jpeg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee83/dax414141/9886.jpeg" border="0" alt=" photo 9886.jpeg"/></a>3/dax414141/9727.jpeg" border="0" alt=" photo 9727.jpeg"/></a>

Re: Non GMO forage bean experiment [Re: DAX] #2114330
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Re: Non GMO forage bean experiment [Re: DAX] #2114364
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looking good!!


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Re: Non GMO forage bean experiment [Re: DAX] #2114409
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Wow 60 acres of beans is a LOT of beans. What kind of no till planter are you using? I have been broadcasting my piddly little 5 acres of beans but would really like a drill or planter sometime in the future.

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I have a tye 2007 pasture pleaser. It's a been pretty good old drill I had to do some work on it this year. Replacing coulter's and double disk but not bad for 15 years worth of me beating on it.

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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
looking good!!

Is this all for deer. Brad is right 60 acres is a lot!

Re: Non GMO forage bean experiment [Re: DAX] #2115335
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Yes it's a bunch and yes it's for deer/wildlife but it's spread over 2000 acres. I enjoy farming for wildlife a lot more then hunting. As a matter of fact I may not even kill a deer this year.

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What's your weed control program?

Re: Non GMO forage bean experiment [Re: DAX] #2115794
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The field in the picture was a wheat/oats/clover in mid March I sprayed it with gly and prowl. I no till drilled the beans the first week of April. I came back over the top on maybe an acre with generic select last week the rest of the field is clean. I have one 5 acre field that was a little more problematic then the others and was planted later. I had to spray flexstar and select on it and it smoked the weeds but did burn the beans a little but the came out of it in about a week. From now on I play to just spray gly with no pre emergent and come back and spray select and flexstar as needed. If I do use a pre it will be dual magnum. I use generics also and to been honest it's about the same price as gly acre to acre especially if you have to spray gly multiple times. 10oz an acre of generic select will kill the tar out of any grass including RR corn. So one 2 1/2 bottle of select will spray 32 acres.1 pint an acre of flexstar will kill everything else broadleaf wise and has residual properties but don't spray it late if you want to over seed small grain in the fall or plant corn early next year. 1 bottle of flexstar covers 20 acres. You have a lot of herbicide options I picked this combo because it was cheap. If you plow the ground and broadcast I would spray generic dual magnum pre and you want have any grass if you get a good stand in a couple months and same thing with prowl. Dual just seems to last longer but prowl is good with no till situations because you just need rain to incorporate it into the soil. You can also you prowl on just about any thing including sunn hemp.

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I just planted about 8 acres at the house of a sunn hemp,top gun soybean,laredo,ICP mix. I just plowed and sprayed prowl broadcasted and draged. No fertilizer added at planting I'm experimenting

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I wish someone would move this to the QDM section

Re: Non GMO forage bean experiment [Re: DAX] #2118674
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Moved it for you DAX


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Re: Non GMO forage bean experiment [Re: DAX] #2118710
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What RR resistant weeds did you have? Looks good so far but once palmer breaks through your program may have some holes in it.


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Oh and by the way I'm experimenting with 20 acres of RR/Xtend group 7's this year. Solves all resistant weed issues and is cheaper than one might think.


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Morning glory, hemp sesbania and a couple more. It's my fault for the most part I've planted round up ready corn or beans 10 years in a row in most of my fields. I had weed issues the last couple of years for several reasons but the drought and planting late last year was a real mess. I probably sprayed a gallon of round up an acre and it didn't&#8203; even make most of it yellow up mostly because of drought conditions. I need the forage beans for the explosive growth early and mid in most fields. I do have a 25 acre field I'm planting that I'm trying the same beans in the middle of the field that a dealer wants me to try. I'm always open for suggestions but remember that I'm in an area that has a lot of deer and I mean a lot. It's nothing for me to see 20+ mature bucks in the beans in late summer just before dark in the big field. One more thing I want plant a bean unless it has a shatter resistant shell my deer wipe them out in February and early March so I need them to hold during the winter. I am certain that is one of the biggest reason that I have the caliber deer that I do.

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Isn't palmer one of the worst gly resistant weeds.

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Originally Posted By: DAX
Isn't palmer one of the worst gly resistant weeds.


Yes

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