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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2112217
05/11/17 06:26 PM
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I love to hunt but will not let any animal suffer even a coyote. I think the depredation permits are a waste of meat and they should be allowed to utilize them. I understand it could get into poaching fast though.

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2112907
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So why does cutting the ears off make them dog killers? Asking cause I don't have a clue

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2112925
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Most catch dogs are trained or instinctively catch by the ear. When they run in trying to catch they either miss or can't get a good grip and are more likely to get cut up. Which also opens the bay dogs up to being cut.

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2112934
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I wonder if somehow another hog or something could have eaten the ears off.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2112956
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It looked to be to clean of a cut to have been chewed off but I guess it's possible

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2112963
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The one I saw was completely healed up with hair growing kinda like it just never had ears. Where I saw it I can't imagine anyone cutting them off but I guess it's possible .


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2113000
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Originally Posted By: BayedUp
Most catch dogs are trained or instinctively catch by the ear. When they run in trying to catch they either miss or can't get a good grip and are more likely to get cut up. Which also opens the bay dogs up to being cut.


Ok, that is what my original thought was but not sure. Never done any hog hunting of any kind.

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2113024
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other hogs and dogs don't chew em off clean like a knife cut. Some assholes do it so the hog can/will kill another mans dog.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: Bait57] #2113421
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Originally Posted By: Bait57

Damages aside. Why make an animal suffer for no reason? There is not one. As a hunter or a sportsman the kill is supposed to be ethical. Not to mutilate the animal for no reason.


X2 - I completely agree.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2113712
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People love hunting hogs. That's how I know they'll never go away.

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2114029
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I have only got to hog hunt a few times. Got lucky enough to get two the last time I went. But I was sitting in a shoot house waiting on them to come out.

I would love to go with somebody one day that has dogs. Would be fun for me to learn and see another way. Nothing like the sound of the dogs. I remember the coon hounds goings crazy back home.

But I don't know how much longer we will be here.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2114066
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I killed a boar last year that had had his ears and tail removed. I have no idea if it was by a knife or from dogs. I just know that that hog was mean. I was added bait to trap location that I was prebaiting. He ran my back into my truck.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2115163
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We have some lazy a.. people in our club that shoots every dang hog they see in the guts cause they are to damn lazy to do anything with . I don't get it shoot it let it run off and suffer, rot and smell to high heavens is better than shoulder shooting and giving it away? Makes no sense to me

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: mauvilla] #2115328
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Originally Posted By: mauvilla
We have some lazy a.. people in our club that shoots every dang hog they see in the guts cause they are to damn lazy to do anything with . I don't get it shoot it let it run off and suffer, rot and smell to high heavens is better than shoulder shooting and giving it away? Makes no sense to me


I hear that more than I should. It is amazing how many hogs I find around food plots when we start working properties right after deer season goes out. They are not hard to locate, just follow the stink.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: Bait57] #2115425
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Originally Posted By: Bait57
I have only got to hog hunt a few times. Got lucky enough to get two the last time I went. But I was sitting in a shoot house waiting on them to come out.

I would love to go with somebody one day that has dogs. Would be fun for me to learn and see another way. Nothing like the sound of the dogs. I remember the coon hounds goings crazy back home.

But I don't know how much longer we will be here.


just some info on it. Most folks like silent curs that only bark when they bay. A few folks use hounds. I personally think the curs have better results because the hog runs of and quits when he dont hear the dogs barking behind him anymore. I like the hounds better, cause you can hear the race better. You can tell when there trailing and when there running, and when there bayed. They can bay one too, it just takes a little longer. Its pretty intense walking into a bay when you know its a big mean hog with cutters. Theres nothing like it really. Ive seen big sows grab a hound by the neck, put him on the ground, and shake him like a bulldog.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: extreme heights hunter] #2119248
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Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
too much trouble. just kill the damn thing

This. Personally, I love the meat, so I always look for a clean, quick, kill. However, feral hogs are like insects, and I couldn't care less about their "feelings" regarding being shot, stabbed, or bayed up by dogs.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2119343
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Last week when the water was high and the hogs was running all over the farm I contacted some guys with some " BAD ASS HOG DOGS" and they came and met me. I showed the farm where we had been seeing the hogs regularly and where lots of fresh sign was. They showed up Tuesday and unloaded their 4 wheelers and loaded all the dogs up and started hunting. I went meet them and had my AR15 strapped on me. They asked what I was gonna do with that. Told them I was gonn kill every hog I see. He told me we don't shoot them we stab them after the dogs catch them. I told him the dogs better not let the hogs get out in the open fields than. After a few hrs of chasing dogs around the farm I told them I had some work to do and left. I met back up with them later on that day and they told me they had found a boar hog the dogs were still trying to bay it again. I said again. He told me they had it bayed in a pond and had to wait for
The catch dog to get there. Guy gets there turns dog loose and he jumps in the pond and catches the hog on the side and the hog spun and hit the dog and knocked the dog down. The hog jumped out the pond and hauled arse. Never to be seen again. I asked why he didn't use the hand gun he had to just shoot the hog while it was in the pond. He said there's no sport in that, that they want the dogs to get the hogs. I told him we don't play catch and release with the hogs, we want them all dead. I had them catch all their dogs and get off the farm.From all the pics I see posted of dead hogs I think you bama dog hunters do better than that. I hope. After that silly arse episode I'm not a big fan of hunting hogs with dogs. I will try to just shoot all I can when they show up and keep the fan off the farm.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2119388
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What a crock of crap. If you can get a bead on it without shooting your dog, bust his arse!

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2119593
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I don't allow people to shoot hogs that my dogs are baying for the safety of my dogs but if we see one in the open and there isn't any dogs around I don't mind the land owner or lease holder shooting them but most of the places I hunt you won't get a shot in the thick mess.

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2119666
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I can understand not shooting when the dogs have the hog bayed for the safety of the dogs. But don't stand over the hog that is laying in the grass on the edge of a pond for 10mins waiting for a guy to bring his dog. I guarantee you one thing if I would have drove up on them and that hog was just laying there, they wouldn't of had to wait any longer for that dog. The hog would've never left the pond. They won't ever have to worry about me shooting around their dogs because that was a big waste of time and money.


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