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No ears and another deer season survivor #2111333
05/10/17 10:17 PM
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In the last two years I have caught 5 hogs off the same property that had been gut shot but survived. Yesterday morning made number 6. The members of the club gut shoot them because they don't want to have to fool with loading or dragging them out of the field. I don't understand why you would purposely make a bad shot on an animal but I guess to each his own.



I also caught a young boar hog the other day that I assume someone had trapped and cut his ears off and turned him back out. Clean cut on both sides of his head. I'm glad I caught him while he was still young. No Ears = Dog Killer!

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2111345
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Wow! Is it a common occurrence for pigs to not have ears? I saw a sow hog in Coy Southwest Wilcox county last fall with no ears and it was just plain weird looking.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2111351
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I'd just about try to whip a sumbitches azz for cutting off ears and turning em loose.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: hayman] #2111361
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Originally Posted By: hayman
Wow! Is it a common occurrence for pigs to not have ears? I saw a sow hog in Coy Southwest Wilcox county last fall with no ears and it was just plain weird looking.

It isn't real common mainly because most everyone kills every hog they catch. If it is done by man which it appears to have been on this hog (clean even cuts on both sides) it is more than likely not a dog hunter. A big toothed boar hog with no ears is a dog killer. I really don't know why someone would have released this hog since they didn't Barr him.

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2111445
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Sounds like a bunch of sweethearts. Gut shooting and ear cutting, real nice folks!

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2111454
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Too me that's a waste and not far to the animal reguardless of what it is. In my opinion people who do things like that give everybody else a bad name.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: bholmes] #2111591
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Originally Posted By: bholmes
Sounds like a bunch of sweethearts. Gut shooting and ear cutting, real nice folks!

Think it's any less painful for the hogs to have a pit bull chew their face off and rip their ears off. Or have some jack leg yuppie have to make 20 bazillion different stabs trying to find the heart? Or the same folks that think it's awesome to blow hogs up with tannerite, or shoot them out on helicopters or air boats. Think any get gut shot/injured using that method?I ain't got nothing against hog dogging or killing, but let's not care about hogs feelings some time but not others.

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Originally Posted By: Bait57
Too me that's a waste and not far to the animal reguardless of what it is. In my opinion people who do things like that give everybody else a bad name.

A waste you say? What about the millions of lbs of venison that is left to rot each summer from depredation permits? Ain't no difference in shooting a hog and letting it lay or not tracking it, and hogs prob do more extensive crop damage than deer do.

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2111594
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Gut shooting something on purpose for it to suffer for your convenience and gut shooting something accidentally are two completely different things in my eyes. So is a hog getting his ears torn up by a dog in the few minutes before it is killed and cutting ones ears off and releasing it for who knows what reason so it suffers for a least a lot longer time. I don't have much compassion for animals in general, but I am not going to intentionally make them suffer.

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Originally Posted By: charlie
Gut shooting something on purpose for it to suffer for your convenience and gut shooting something accidentally are two completely different things in my eyes. So is a hog getting his ears torn up by a dog in the few minutes before it is killed and cutting ones ears off and releasing it for who knows what reason so it suffers for a least a lot longer time. I don't have much compassion for animals in general, but I am not going to intentionally make them suffer.

so suffering is ok but only for a certain time limit that you consider acceptable?

And on depredation permits we gut shoot, leg shoot, heart shoot, pretty much any shot we can get, and to be honest we would prefer that the deer don't drop in the field and run off in the woods. Why aren't you up in arms about the poor deers feelings?

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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2111643
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I didn't know we had PETA supporters on here...


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: jlbuc10] #2111710
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Yes, for the shortest amount of time it takes to get the job done with the tools at hand. Give me a legitimate reason for cutting a hogs ears clean off and letting it go and I might change my mind. And I am not "up in arms" about any of it, deer or hogs. Just don't see the point in it .


Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
Originally Posted By: charlie
Gut shooting something on purpose for it to suffer for your convenience and gut shooting something accidentally are two completely different things in my eyes. So is a hog getting his ears torn up by a dog in the few minutes before it is killed and cutting ones ears off and releasing it for who knows what reason so it suffers for a least a lot longer time. I don't have much compassion for animals in general, but I am not going to intentionally make them suffer.

so suffering is ok but only for a certain time limit that you consider acceptable?

And on depredation permits we gut shoot, leg shoot, heart shoot, pretty much any shot we can get, and to be honest we would prefer that the deer don't drop in the field and run off in the woods. Why aren't you up in arms about the poor deers feelings?

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2111725
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too much trouble. just kill the damn thing

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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
I didn't know we had PETA supporters on here...

I hope your not talking about me. I was just trying to figure out how some folks complain about gut shooting hogs, and their ears being cut off as inhumane, but those same folks don't question blowing them up with tannerite or shooting them out of helos, or letting catch dogs maul them. I just don't understand the division. IMHO I think they should be killed any legal way possible.
Originally Posted By: charlie
Give me a legitimate reason for cutting a hogs ears clean off and letting it go and I might change my mind.

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I don't have one, and have no clue why some one would do that. I just don't see the difference in a human cutting off their ears, and a catch dog tearing them off. Ears are gone either way due to human intervention.

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2111773
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I've heard of hound hunters cutting ears and tail and realeasing them cause they didn't like the cur dog hunters.lol. the curs tend to get raped more so than the hounds supposedly. Sounds stupid to me.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: jlbuc10] #2111791
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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10

Originally Posted By: bholmes
Sounds like a bunch of sweethearts. Gut shooting and ear cutting, real nice folks!

Think it's any less painful for the hogs to have a pit bull chew their face off and rip their ears off. Or have some jack leg yuppie have to make 20 bazillion different stabs trying to find the heart? Or the same folks that think it's awesome to blow hogs up with tannerite, or shoot them out on helicopters or air boats. Think any get gut shot/injured using that method?I ain't got nothing against hog dogging or killing, but let's not care about hogs feelings some time but not others.

First, a good pit doesn't chew and shake he holds. Second, when I stick a hog I guarantee that it is dead quick with on stab than any bullet behind the shoulders. And last but not least, I don't care how anyone else kills anything as long as it is legal. I may not understand it but as said earlier "To Each His Own". I personally don't turn a bulldog loose until I am less than 50 yards are so from the bay to cut down on the time that the dogs are caught so the hog and dogs are less likely to be tore up.

Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: jlbuc10] #2111826
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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10

Originally Posted By: Bait57
Too me that's a waste and not far to the animal reguardless of what it is. In my opinion people who do things like that give everybody else a bad name.

A waste you say? What about the millions of lbs of venison that is left to rot each summer from depredation permits? Ain't no difference in shooting a hog and letting it lay or not tracking it, and hogs prob do more extensive crop damage than deer do.


Damages aside. Why make an animal suffer for no reason? There is not one. As a hunter or a sportsman the kill is supposed to be ethical. Not to mutilate the animal for no reason.
I haven't delt with them as long as most on here have. Only because we move a lot. Still no reason to torture an animal for nothing.


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2111878
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Did they hog have it's top teeth that sharpen it's cutters?


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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor [Re: BayedUp] #2111912
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Yeah the only thing that was altered was his ears cut off

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Originally Posted By: mandeerpig
Did they hog have it's top teeth that sharpen it's cutters?


Whetters. Not sure of the spelling.


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