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New NCAA Recruiting Rule... #2110641
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effects Auburn. They can't recruit guys from Opelika due to hiring their ex-Head Coach Blackmon. I know there are waivers and such but it appears this rule was signed into place AFTER Blackmon was hired...thoughts?

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Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: noeyeddeer] #2110693
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I thought that coach couldn't recruit that school. Does it mean no coach on the staff can recruit a school?

Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: noeyeddeer] #2110786
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Doekiller knows this doesn't have a chance to hold up. That is if an individual files suit, and not a school.
Right, Scott?


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Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: Gotcha1] #2110805
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Originally Posted By: Gotcha1
Doekiller knows this doesn't have a chance to hold up. That is if an individual files suit, and not a school.
Right, Scott?


Not Doekiller, but that is certainly Ex Post Facto, which would be illegal if it were a law, but NCAA regs are not laws so it would have to be adjudicated on other grounds such as targeting a certain recruit or team.


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Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: doekiller] #2110808
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Originally Posted By: doekiller
I thought that coach couldn't recruit that school. Does it mean no coach on the staff can recruit a school?


Not only can they not recruit that school, but a player from that high school can't sign with the school the coach went to work for is the way I was told.


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Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: noeyeddeer] #2110828
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dang, that rule is harsh. It hurts high school coaches ability to move up to the college game tremendously.

Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: noeyeddeer] #2110837
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One more nail in the coffin of the NCAA.

Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: doekiller] #2110846
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Originally Posted By: doekiller
dang, that rule is harsh. It hurts high school coaches ability to move up to the college game tremendously.


That is why Gus was so adamantly opposed to it. His last year at a HS coach he had Mitch Mustain, who every team in the country wanted. Gus says if they had a rule like this back then he never would've had a college opportunity.

This is going to make jobs at great high school programs a dead end job now.


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Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: noeyeddeer] #2110873
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Didn't South Carolina hire the Qb's dad/coach?

Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: noeyeddeer] #2110875
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Alabama gets the best players out of Opelika/Auburn high schools anyaway so it's a mute point...JS beers

Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: noeyeddeer] #2110884
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I understand the reasoning behind it but seems definitely too harsh. High school that my son came out of probably has 35-40 kids scattered across about 25 different D1 and D2 schools that are currently playing college ball. Does that mean that the head coach is prohibited by NCAA regs from working at any of those 25 schools where his previous players are currently playing? Something sounds incorrect to me about the interpretation.

Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: timbercruiser] #2110941
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
Didn't South Carolina hire the Qb's dad/coach?


Yes, Coach Bentley was hired from Opelika High, and is one of the reasons this rule was instituted.


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Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: noeyeddeer] #2110953
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Well hell. I wonder how they feel about these coaches working summer camps at these Universities?

Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: burbank] #2110956
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Originally Posted By: burbank
Well hell. I wonder how they feel about these coaches working summer camps at these Universities?


Didn't they pass a rule about that too?

Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: doekiller] #2111019
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Originally Posted By: doekiller
Originally Posted By: burbank
Well hell. I wonder how they feel about these coaches working summer camps at these Universities?


Didn't they pass a rule about that too?


They addressed summer camps in some fashion recently but I never paid attention to the particulars.


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Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: noeyeddeer] #2111068
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What if the player genuinely wants to attend school X. He can't simply because of a coach that was hired. And how many years after the hire does this effect the recruiting of players from the HS?

Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: BigEd] #2111076
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Originally Posted By: BigEd
What if the player genuinely wants to attend school X. He can't simply because of a coach that was hired. And how many years after the hire does this effect the recruiting of players from the HS?


2, it's in the bold headline of the article

Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: noeyeddeer] #2111272
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Not a problem if it is an assistant coach. "Advisor" or "analyst" is the problem.

Re: New NCAA Recruiting Rule... [Re: jawbone] #2112720
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Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
Didn't South Carolina hire the Qb's dad/coach?


Yes, Coach Bentley was hired from Opelika High, and is one of the reasons this rule was instituted.


Bentley was hired from AU. His son played at Opelika High.

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Originally Posted By: RCHRR
Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
Didn't South Carolina hire the Qb's dad/coach?


Yes, Coach Bentley was hired from Opelika High, and is one of the reasons this rule was instituted.


Bentley was hired from AU. His son played at Opelika High.


That's right. Bentley was a hot shot high school coach in SC until AU hired him in one of the off field roles. He stayed there a year and then Muschamp gave him an on the field coaching job. Everyone assumed Jake would be at AU until Boom stole him and dad away.


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