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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/05/17 04:13 PM
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Good question,,it amazes me that in completion shooting Your 12 ring or not happy at all! Is that correct?
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/05/17 04:36 PM
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Good question,,it amazes me that in completion shooting Your 12 ring or not happy at all! Is that correct? For some people maybe. For me if it's an easy shot, under 35 yards, and I don't pick up a twelve then I feel like I'm giving up points. If it's a long shot 40+ and I can stay a ten then I'm satisfied. If I get a twelve then it's a bonus. In ASA in the known 45 or 50 yard classes if your not shooting for and hitting twelves then you're loosing. It truly amazes me how good the pros can shoot.
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/05/17 04:49 PM
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Brother your well on your way! You have made me reset my goals! Keep shooting!!!
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/05/17 04:49 PM
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See there. My group doesn't even compare to Shaw's group. Why is it that on nearly every group whether four or five shot groups it seems like you'll have one that will tail out of the group? And no it's not the same arrow every time. From my experience, it's operator error. Reason why I always hated shooting spots. Pissed me off that I couldn't drill that X every time from 20 yards. It was always a loss of focus, fatigue or a combo of both.
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/05/17 05:17 PM
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See there. My group doesn't even compare to Shaw's group. Why is it that on nearly every group whether four or five shot groups it seems like you'll have one that will tail out of the group? And no it's not the same arrow every time. From my experience, it's operator error. Reason why I always hated shooting spots. Pissed me off that I couldn't drill that X every time from 20 yards. It was always a loss of focus, fatigue or a combo of both. Yeah Shaw once I throw one out in the blue then I can drill the rest of them.
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/06/17 03:24 AM
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You have a tuning issue. Possibly a spine issue. The 4 fletch stabilizes flight faster thus resulting in better groups.Either that or your form is really bad.
I'm not as informed about compound tuning but with a stickbow,if you are tuned perfectly and have great form,you can shoot bare shafts without any fletching to the exact same spot as fletched arrows. The fletching just helps correct errors in form or tuning.
Can you bareshaft test a compound like you do a stickbow? If so that's where I would start to see what's wrong. Lots of online info about bareshaft tuning. Either one of those groups are better than 99% of people who shoot a compound bow can do at 50yds. Saying that it's out of tune or he has "really bad form" is dumb. Slug, I've tried 4 fletch but can't tell a difference on my rig. I'm shooting x cutters. Of course, my average groups aren't that tight, so it may be helping and I just can't tell.
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/06/17 03:47 AM
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You have a tuning issue. Possibly a spine issue. The 4 fletch stabilizes flight faster thus resulting in better groups.Either that or your form is really bad.
I'm not as informed about compound tuning but with a stickbow,if you are tuned perfectly and have great form,you can shoot bare shafts without any fletching to the exact same spot as fletched arrows. The fletching just helps correct errors in form or tuning.
Can you bareshaft test a compound like you do a stickbow? If so that's where I would start to see what's wrong. Lots of online info about bareshaft tuning. Either one of those groups are better than 99% of people who shoot a compound bow can do at 50yds. Saying that it's out of tune or he has "really bad form" is dumb. Slug, I've tried 4 fletch but can't tell a difference on my rig. I'm shooting x cutters. Of course, my average groups aren't that tight, so it may be helping and I just can't tell. I'm sorry,I'm just not as smart as you think you are.
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/06/17 04:21 AM
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See there. My group doesn't even compare to Shaw's group. Why is it that on nearly every group whether four or five shot groups it seems like you'll have one that will tail out of the group? And no it's not the same arrow every time. What kills me, is dropping low out of 12s. I shot a known course the other day, and shot 7-8s in a row. 1/4" below the 12. Everyone of them would have smacked a penny right below the 12. Every now and then I'll do this, makes me want to throw my damn bow in the woods. Yeah that will get in your head and mess the whole day up. Just have to shake the second one off and start adding a yard to everything else.
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/06/17 08:59 AM
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R H Clark I didn't take it as an insult but it did get me to thinking about was it the bow tune or the extra spin it gives the arrow. I took it to the pro shop because I wanted to make sure it was still tuned. I just got this bow about a month ago and before I set it up I had the strings and cables reserved so I wanted to be sure that hadn't stretched or something. After all they don't charge me for labor. That's why I let them put their name on my shooters shirt. I'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement on my form as well. And I'm definitely not satisfied with those groups and won't be until they're all in the x every time.
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/06/17 12:54 PM
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R H Clark I didn't take it as an insult but it did get me to thinking about was it the bow tune or the extra spin it gives the arrow. I took it to the pro shop because I wanted to make sure it was still tuned. I just got this bow about a month ago and before I set it up I had the strings and cables reserved so I wanted to be sure that hadn't stretched or something. After all they don't charge me for labor. That's why I let them put their name on my shooters shirt. I'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement on my form as well. And I'm definitely not satisfied with those groups and won't be until they're all in the x every time. All you need now is to drop the wheels and practice until you can shoot a stick like that. It will readjust what you thought was good before, and your new level of good will be even more satisfying. No,I'm not saying I'm that good,I just enjoy my good shots even more now.
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/06/17 02:55 PM
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R H Clark I didn't take it as an insult but it did get me to thinking about was it the bow tune or the extra spin it gives the arrow. I took it to the pro shop because I wanted to make sure it was still tuned. I just got this bow about a month ago and before I set it up I had the strings and cables reserved so I wanted to be sure that hadn't stretched or something. After all they don't charge me for labor. That's why I let them put their name on my shooters shirt. I'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement on my form as well. And I'm definitely not satisfied with those groups and won't be until they're all in the x every time. All you need now is to drop the wheels and practice until you can shoot a stick like that. It will readjust what you thought was good before, and your new level of good will be even more satisfying. No,I'm not saying I'm that good,I just enjoy my good shots even more now. I shot Tuscaloosa on April 22 in the traditional class. I had a whopping 96 points on 20 targets. We had a good time though and didn't loose any arrows. I was using a longbow and the other guys had recurves. They kicked my butt. Johnny had a 128, Larry had a 127 and Chester had a 114.
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/06/17 05:10 PM
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R H Clark I didn't take it as an insult but it did get me to thinking about was it the bow tune or the extra spin it gives the arrow. I took it to the pro shop because I wanted to make sure it was still tuned. I just got this bow about a month ago and before I set it up I had the strings and cables reserved so I wanted to be sure that hadn't stretched or something. After all they don't charge me for labor. That's why I let them put their name on my shooters shirt. I'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement on my form as well. And I'm definitely not satisfied with those groups and won't be until they're all in the x every time. All you need now is to drop the wheels and practice until you can shoot a stick like that. It will readjust what you thought was good before, and your new level of good will be even more satisfying. No,I'm not saying I'm that good,I just enjoy my good shots even more now. I shot Tuscaloosa on April 22 in the traditional class. I had a whopping 96 points on 20 targets. We had a good time though and didn't loose any arrows. I was using a longbow and the other guys had recurves. They kicked my butt. Johnny had a 128, Larry had a 127 and Chester had a 114. What was the possible? What kind of percentage are you scoring? If I ever see you at a trad shoot (Howard Hill Possibly) you need to try one of my target ILF recurves. I have one with 25" riser and riser weighs 5 lbs. Anyone use to compounds should shoot it very well.
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/06/17 05:25 PM
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R H Clark I didn't take it as an insult but it did get me to thinking about was it the bow tune or the extra spin it gives the arrow. I took it to the pro shop because I wanted to make sure it was still tuned. I just got this bow about a month ago and before I set it up I had the strings and cables reserved so I wanted to be sure that hadn't stretched or something. After all they don't charge me for labor. That's why I let them put their name on my shooters shirt. I'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement on my form as well. And I'm definitely not satisfied with those groups and won't be until they're all in the x every time. All you need now is to drop the wheels and practice until you can shoot a stick like that. It will readjust what you thought was good before, and your new level of good will be even more satisfying. No,I'm not saying I'm that good,I just enjoy my good shots even more now. I shot Tuscaloosa on April 22 in the traditional class. I had a whopping 96 points on 20 targets. We had a good time though and didn't loose any arrows. I was using a longbow and the other guys had recurves. They kicked my butt. Johnny had a 128, Larry had a 127 and Chester had a 114. What was the possible? What kind of percentage are you scoring? If I ever see you at a trad shoot (Howard Hill Possibly) you need to try one of my target ILF recurves. I have one with 25" riser and riser weighs 5 lbs. Anyone use to compounds should shoot it very well. It was a 3d shoot with 240 possible points. I missed 7 targets and didn't shoot any 12's. Shot a few tens though.
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/07/17 09:58 AM
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R H Clark I didn't take it as an insult but it did get me to thinking about was it the bow tune or the extra spin it gives the arrow. I took it to the pro shop because I wanted to make sure it was still tuned. I just got this bow about a month ago and before I set it up I had the strings and cables reserved so I wanted to be sure that hadn't stretched or something. After all they don't charge me for labor. That's why I let them put their name on my shooters shirt. I'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement on my form as well. And I'm definitely not satisfied with those groups and won't be until they're all in the x every time. All you need now is to drop the wheels and practice until you can shoot a stick like that. It will readjust what you thought was good before, and your new level of good will be even more satisfying. No,I'm not saying I'm that good,I just enjoy my good shots even more now. There are only a few things in life more enjoyable than loosing a great arrow from traditional gear! Maybe because they are elusive to me, but in the 40 years I have been watching the flight of the arrow (from both traditional & compounds) I am still enthralled with its simplistic beauty!
Last edited by Fun4all; 05/07/17 10:00 AM.
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Re: Three fletch vs four fletch
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05/08/17 03:19 PM
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Slug that the moment you know your. A. Game is On !!! And it cost $15 a shot to play!!! Great shooting my friend!
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