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Boomless spray nozzel recs question. Thanks. #2084242
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I have a 150 gal sprayer and I have one single (boomless) nozzle on it. I am not happy with the "misting" out laterally as it seems to be too large of droplets. I am getting a good kill in the middle of the spray area but not out laterally. Certainly,I am wanting to use a boomless design but I thought I'd look into a MUCH shorter boom with maybe three (3) spray nozzles?

Or, I'm open to any suggestions.

Thanks!!

Re: Boomless spray nozzel recs question. Thanks. [Re: Antlerfluke] #2084265
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I assume you've used the pressure control reduce the droplet size. Increasing the pressure should create a finer mist, up to a point, then you need to change nozzles. There's a lot of info on the Tee-Jet website than can help you select the sizes you may want to try.

If I were going to modify a 1 nozzle to a 3 nozzle, I would branch the main line before it reaches the first nozzle. I have seen sprayers that had the main supply line go to the first nozzle and then feed the other nozzles down the line. This would seem to give the first nozzle a higher pressure than the others. The correct way to do it would be to branch the main line into 3 lines then running it to each nozzle. This way each nozzle gets the same pressure.


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PTO roller pump or on demand pump? What type and size of boomless nozzle?How much pressure and how much product are you puttin or wanting to put out per acre? How wide is boomless nozzle coverage? Lots of info was left out. It's not rocket science but you have so many options that all this info would be helpful.


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Re: Boomless spray nozzel recs question. Thanks. [Re: Antlerfluke] #2084724
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Yelp I understand what you are saying but the nozzles are only gonna put out the amount of product it's sized for. Therefor if you have an adequate pump to finish the 3 nozzles they will put out the same amount. I think I wrote it like I'm thinking it. Lol


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Hello guys! Thanks and great questions.

OK, I bought an Ag Spray Equipment sprayer; 150 gal. Originally, it came with booms and I could not have been happier when I switched to a single Hamilton #2 Boomless brass nozzle. I have a PTO pump on my 60 Hp Kubota tractor.

I have the pressure up as high as it will go but I'm still just not getting the width in coverage as I think the droplets are too big in the most lateral of the spray area.

I thought about going back to a single, short boom with three nozzles where I can spray middle, right or left or a combination.

I can affix a new short boom but I just don't want to go back to those long booms that get hung up all the time.

Hope that's enough info.

Thank you very very much!!!

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I hate to keep asking questions but how wide is your swath now and what width are you trying to get to? The chart for that nozzle shows 22' at 30psi and only .85gpm and 3.2gpa. 25' at 60psi and 1.2gpm and 3.95gpa. This is at 3mph. That's not much product on the ground in my opinion. I don't do anything under 5gpa. Most call for 10 gpa. You may need to step up to a #5. I think you are not getting coverage due to over pressure and you are misting bad and losing some of your coverage. Not from droplets being to big. Again my opinion.

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Trying to get smaller droplets and maintain that kind of width probably isn't going to work, and you will get worse drifting problems. You might try a different nozzle, but it probably isn't going to work like you want.

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Marshmud991, I don't mind the questions... hell, I should provide more info. Thank for asking.

I shoot for 15-18 gals per acre of gly mixed at 2.13 oz per gal. Which means that when my spray tank of 150 gals is full, I pour in 2.5 gals of gly. I add a surfactant or add Dawn DW Liquid.

I think that I'm not getting enough coverage. I was just hoping that I could buy a short boom with three nozzles and it would be a very easy fix to hook up the existing hoses to my new short boom. I can weld but I already have a flatbar to mount my new boom to.

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Originally Posted By: marshmud991
Yelp I understand what you are saying but the nozzles are only gonna put out the amount of product it's sized for. Therefor if you have an adequate pump to finish the 3 nozzles they will put out the same amount. I think I wrote it like I'm thinking it. Lol


I don't think you understand what I'm saying. There's a difference in supplying equal pressure to all 3 nozzles versus supplying full pressure to one with the excess fluid then flowing to the outer nozzles. The outer nozzles will be operating at a different pressure than the main nozzle that's receiving full pressure from the pump. I don't care what size nozzle you're using, if they are operating at different pressures, they will put out different amounts of spray. Read a spray nozzle chart. It clearly shows nozzles operated at higher psi putting out a higher volume. If you don't mind your nozzles putting out different volumes because the pressure isn't equal in all of them, knock yourself out. You can do what most folks do, use way too much herbicide to compensate for improperly calibrated equipment.


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I was trying to explain the difference between pressure and volume. What I'm trying to say is your nozzle is rated for a certain volume at a certain pressure. If you dig is calibrated correctly the last no so on the boom will put out the same volume as the 1st nozzle whether you split it befor nozzle or after. I understand what Yelp is talking about and there is some times if you use different size nozzles that's how you dig it up. Teejet has so many different applications so sprayers it will make your eyes cross trying to figure out what you need.


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Nevermind the entire question... I fixed the problem. I'm not going to attempt to explain what I did to fix the problem but I understand the pressure manipulation that I did. Too many words to type but I now have much more pressure and my sprayer is spraying great!

But thanks for everyone's input!

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