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DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again!
#2093063
04/20/17 07:05 AM
04/20/17 07:05 AM
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Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 906 upatree
rulebreaker
OP
My head is in my ass.
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OP
My head is in my ass.
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 906
upatree
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This is really getting old
Don't go looking for TROUBLE, it'll find you soon enough!
There are old, wise men and then there are just old fools. The sooner you learn this, the wiser you will be.
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Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again!
[Re: centralala]
#2093096
04/20/17 07:34 AM
04/20/17 07:34 AM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 21,782 USA
Remington270
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 21,782
USA
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Jus saw on the news 93% of Alabama is abnormally dry or worse. When did North Alabama's drought start last year? Late summer. Probably July as I recall. Ask 257, I bet he remembers
Last edited by Remington270; 04/20/17 07:38 AM.
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Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again!
[Re: rulebreaker]
#2093102
04/20/17 07:45 AM
04/20/17 07:45 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,181 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,181
alabama
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last year started here July
plenty of rain so far this spring
I have dead pines all over, prolly a dozen right now, mostly big trees
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again!
[Re: coachg34]
#2093300
04/20/17 11:34 AM
04/20/17 11:34 AM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 39,449 Marshall County
FurFlyin
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 39,449
Marshall County
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Drought started in NE AL as early as April,May. Got some rain but no nearly as much as we do normal years. Really affected hay production for cattlemen. Yep, same pattern already setting up for us now that we had last year. We aren't too dry yet but the same weather pattern is setting up as it did last year, rain is going above and below us. It's rained NE of us every day this week, but missed us. Surface moisture is drying up quick. There are 100's or 1000's of dead Leyland cypress trees here that are dead. White pines took a beating too and I think there's gonna wind up being lots and lots of dead oaks too. It's a little early to tell but I think we've got a bunch of dead ones on our place. The main reason I think it's going to be dry again is that droughts as bad as last year are typically not one year droughts.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again!
[Re: rulebreaker]
#2093333
04/20/17 12:47 PM
04/20/17 12:47 PM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910
Clanton, AL
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We're in drought condition in Chilton county.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again!
[Re: rulebreaker]
#2093373
04/20/17 01:38 PM
04/20/17 01:38 PM
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Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,147 Central Alabama
Cuz-Pat
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,147
Central Alabama
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I have many pines dead and a bunch of red oak and water oaks dead as well.
Cuz-Pat
Patton's European Mounts Professional Quality Skull & Antler Taxidermy Since 1998
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Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again!
[Re: rulebreaker]
#2093384
04/20/17 01:45 PM
04/20/17 01:45 PM
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Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 18,070 Andalusia, Al. Covington Co.
DEADorALIVE
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 18,070
Andalusia, Al. Covington Co.
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Last year we had a pretty good rainfall until we didn't. From September 2nd until mid November, we didn't get a drop of rain, and it had been real dry way up north of us for a long time before our last rainfall. Today is, I think, 15 days since our last rain, and 'Huntress is watering trees this afternoon/evening. We got most of our irrigation system built while I was home this last time, hopefully will finish it up when I get back again...then, watering the entire orchard will take less than half an hour!
Well behaved women never make history.~ Out back Quit laughing...I think I broke something.
Fifteen is my limit on Schnitzen-Gruben, Baby...
I have OCD and ADD, so everything has to be perfect, but only for a minute.
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Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again!
[Re: DEADorALIVE]
#2093586
04/20/17 10:37 PM
04/20/17 10:37 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780
central ala,
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Last year we had a pretty good rainfall until we didn't. From September 2nd until mid November, we didn't get a drop of rain, and it had been real dry way up north of us for a long time before our last rainfall.
Today is, I think, 15 days since our last rain, That describes my situation exactly. But the winter we didn't recoup the lack rain in the fall. I've turkey hunted places that is normally too wet during turkey season. We also have a small water hole that normally doesn't dry up until late June/early July that is dry now. For those talking about dead pines you ain't seen nothing yet if this persist. The pines are already stressed from last summer/fall/winter drought. Thus, some will be pushed over edge quicker. They also need rain to produce sap which is used by the tree to fight off pine beetles. Because where we are starting this year in my area, it could be bad like I've never seen.
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Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again!
[Re: rulebreaker]
#2093609
04/21/17 01:23 AM
04/21/17 01:23 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,777 Athens, GA
WildlifeBiologist
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,777
Athens, GA
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Going to be another tough year for timberland owners in some parts of the South. Drought triggered ips beetle and southern pine beetle outbreaks. Loggers are staying busy with salvage cuts but landowners are taking a beating on price. Now there is a a second wave of distressed timber stands in those same areas. Landowners are having to go back and cut even more, but this time even more aggressively with 2nd thinning or clearcutting entire stands ahead of schedule. Stumpage prices continue to drop as the extra volume floods the market. Mills are making better margin but the landowner is in a lose-lose situation. Cut now and you get pinched on price. Wait for the market to improve and you run the risk of losing large tracts to extended drought damage.
Last edited by WildlifeBiologist; 04/21/17 01:31 AM.
Micah 6:8
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Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again!
[Re: WildlifeBiologist]
#2093697
04/21/17 03:32 AM
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Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 11,651 Longwood, FL
jlbuc10
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 11,651
Longwood, FL
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Going to be another tough year for timberland owners in some parts of the South. Drought triggered ips beetle and southern pine beetle outbreaks. Loggers are staying busy with salvage cuts but landowners are taking a beating on price. Now there is a a second wave of distressed timber stands in those same areas. Landowners are having to go back and cut even more, but this time even more aggressively with 2nd thinning or clearcutting entire stands ahead of schedule. Stumpage prices continue to drop as the extra volume floods the market. Mills are making better margin but the landowner is in a lose-lose situation. Cut now and you get pinched on price. Wait for the market to improve and you run the risk of losing large tracts to extended drought damage. Yep we were in stall mode last year waiting on the market then the drought hit, then we got beetles. Now prices are so it makes it hard to want to cut especially when your trees are your family's retirement. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again!
[Re: rulebreaker]
#2093741
04/21/17 04:25 AM
04/21/17 04:25 AM
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,239 somewhere around 112.
slippinlipjr
I make Calds fer a livin
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I make Calds fer a livin
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,239
somewhere around 112.
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I've been all over the state this week and have seen tons and tons of dead trees from last year's drought. I think the worst I've seen was around montevallo where the bedrock is really shallow.
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Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again!
[Re: jlbuc10]
#2093985
04/21/17 09:05 AM
04/21/17 09:05 AM
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,964 Northport
Thisldu
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,964
Northport
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Going to be another tough year for timberland owners in some parts of the South. Drought triggered ips beetle and southern pine beetle outbreaks. Loggers are staying busy with salvage cuts but landowners are taking a beating on price. Now there is a a second wave of distressed timber stands in those same areas. Landowners are having to go back and cut even more, but this time even more aggressively with 2nd thinning or clearcutting entire stands ahead of schedule. Stumpage prices continue to drop as the extra volume floods the market. Mills are making better margin but the landowner is in a lose-lose situation. Cut now and you get pinched on price. Wait for the market to improve and you run the risk of losing large tracts to extended drought damage. Yep we were in stall mode last year waiting on the market then the drought hit, then we got beetles. Now prices are so it makes it hard to want to cut especially when your trees are your family's retirement. Stuck between a rock and a hard place. Same here. Damn beetles.
"The future's uncertain and the end is always near"
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