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#2093063 - 04/20/17 12:05 PM DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again!
rulebreaker Offline
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This is really getting old
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#2093079 - 04/20/17 12:18 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
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Registered: 11/09/11
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Loc: Tupelo, MS
Where do you live? We've gotten huge rains in the past 3 months.

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#2093089 - 04/20/17 12:24 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
centralala Offline
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Loc: central ala,
Jus saw on the news 93% of Alabama is abnormally dry or worse. When did North Alabama's drought start last year?

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#2093094 - 04/20/17 12:32 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
MoonDog Offline
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Registered: 01/24/12
Posts: 608
Loc: Auburn, AL
Say what? We still got some mud puddles in Lee county.

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#2093096 - 04/20/17 12:34 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: centralala]
Remington270 Online   content
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Loc: Tupelo, MS
Originally Posted By: centralala
Jus saw on the news 93% of Alabama is abnormally dry or worse. When did North Alabama's drought start last year?


Late summer. Probably July as I recall. Ask 257, I bet he remembers laugh


Edited by Remington270 (04/20/17 12:38 PM)

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#2093101 - 04/20/17 12:41 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
NEbamahunter Offline
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Registered: 05/01/15
Posts: 483
Loc: Jackson County
wow, I didn't realize folks weren't getting rain. We have been fortunate here in NE AL so far, I was in TX last week and they had records rainfall for them as well... so much so there that it made the hunting "bad" by their definition = great by AL standards smile

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#2093102 - 04/20/17 12:45 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
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last year started here July

plenty of rain so far this spring

I have dead pines all over, prolly a dozen right now, mostly big trees
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#2093124 - 04/20/17 01:14 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: BhamFred]
coachg34 Offline
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Registered: 11/06/06
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Loc: pisgah
Drought started in NE AL as early as April,May. Got some rain but no nearly as much as we do normal years. Really affected hay production for cattlemen.

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#2093300 - 04/20/17 04:34 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: coachg34]
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Loc: Marshall County
Originally Posted By: coachg34
Drought started in NE AL as early as April,May. Got some rain but no nearly as much as we do normal years. Really affected hay production for cattlemen.


Yep, same pattern already setting up for us now that we had last year. We aren't too dry yet but the same weather pattern is setting up as it did last year, rain is going above and below us. It's rained NE of us every day this week, but missed us. Surface moisture is drying up quick.

There are 100's or 1000's of dead Leyland cypress trees here that are dead. White pines took a beating too and I think there's gonna wind up being lots and lots of dead oaks too. It's a little early to tell but I think we've got a bunch of dead ones on our place.

The main reason I think it's going to be dry again is that droughts as bad as last year are typically not one year droughts.
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#2093333 - 04/20/17 05:47 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
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Registered: 10/10/08
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We're in drought condition in Chilton county.
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#2093365 - 04/20/17 06:29 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
JayHook Offline
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Registered: 12/27/08
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Loc: south baldwin county
Baldwin county farmers are bedded up to plant but no peanuts dropped in yet. Watering sod so they can cut it.

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#2093373 - 04/20/17 06:38 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
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I have many pines dead and a bunch of red oak and water oaks dead as well.
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#2093384 - 04/20/17 06:45 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
DEADorALIVE Offline
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Registered: 10/15/02
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Loc: Andalusia, Al. Covington Co.
Last year we had a pretty good rainfall until we didn't. From September 2nd until mid November, we didn't get a drop of rain, and it had been real dry way up north of us for a long time before our last rainfall.

Today is, I think, 15 days since our last rain, and 'Huntress is watering trees this afternoon/evening. We got most of our irrigation system built while I was home this last time, hopefully will finish it up when I get back again...then, watering the entire orchard will take less than half an hour! smile
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#2093586 - 04/21/17 03:37 AM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: DEADorALIVE]
centralala Offline
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Registered: 01/09/09
Posts: 4405
Loc: central ala,
Originally Posted By: DEADorALIVE
Last year we had a pretty good rainfall until we didn't. From September 2nd until mid November, we didn't get a drop of rain, and it had been real dry way up north of us for a long time before our last rainfall.

Today is, I think, 15 days since our last rain,



That describes my situation exactly. But the winter we didn't recoup the lack rain in the fall. I've turkey hunted places that is normally too wet during turkey season. We also have a small water hole that normally doesn't dry up until late June/early July that is dry now.

For those talking about dead pines you ain't seen nothing yet if this persist. The pines are already stressed from last summer/fall/winter drought. Thus, some will be pushed over edge quicker. They also need rain to produce sap which is used by the tree to fight off pine beetles. Because where we are starting this year in my area, it could be bad like I've never seen.

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#2093598 - 04/21/17 05:55 AM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: centralala]
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Registered: 08/25/01
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Loc: Luverne, AL
The Drought Monitor says we are off to a bad start for Spring.

http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/Home/RegionalDroughtMonitor.aspx?southeast

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#2093609 - 04/21/17 06:23 AM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
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Registered: 09/23/04
Posts: 1957
Loc: Athens, GA
Going to be another tough year for timberland owners in some parts of the South. Drought triggered ips beetle and southern pine beetle outbreaks. Loggers are staying busy with salvage cuts but landowners are taking a beating on price. Now there is a a second wave of distressed timber stands in those same areas. Landowners are having to go back and cut even more, but this time even more aggressively with 2nd thinning or clearcutting entire stands ahead of schedule. Stumpage prices continue to drop as the extra volume floods the market. Mills are making better margin but the landowner is in a lose-lose situation. Cut now and you get pinched on price. Wait for the market to improve and you run the risk of losing large tracts to extended drought damage.


Edited by WildlifeBiologist (04/21/17 06:31 AM)
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#2093645 - 04/21/17 07:18 AM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
blumsden Offline
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Registered: 06/14/13
Posts: 3625
Loc: Jacksonville, Alabama
For the spring, yea its dry. We've had one day of rain in the last 10 days at the house, and when i say 1 day, it rained for an hour. Usually, in the spring, it rains 2-3 times a week.

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#2093697 - 04/21/17 08:32 AM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: WildlifeBiologist]
jlbuc10 Offline
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Registered: 11/04/10
Posts: 7225
Loc: Auburn

Originally Posted By: WildlifeBiologist
Going to be another tough year for timberland owners in some parts of the South. Drought triggered ips beetle and southern pine beetle outbreaks. Loggers are staying busy with salvage cuts but landowners are taking a beating on price. Now there is a a second wave of distressed timber stands in those same areas. Landowners are having to go back and cut even more, but this time even more aggressively with 2nd thinning or clearcutting entire stands ahead of schedule. Stumpage prices continue to drop as the extra volume floods the market. Mills are making better margin but the landowner is in a lose-lose situation. Cut now and you get pinched on price. Wait for the market to improve and you run the risk of losing large tracts to extended drought damage.

Yep we were in stall mode last year waiting on the market then the drought hit, then we got beetles. Now prices are so it makes it hard to want to cut especially when your trees are your family's retirement. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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#2093741 - 04/21/17 09:25 AM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
slippinlipjr Offline
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Registered: 09/22/09
Posts: 3769
Loc: somewhere around 112.
I've been all over the state this week and have seen tons and tons of dead trees from last year's drought. I think the worst I've seen was around montevallo where the bedrock is really shallow.
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#2093985 - 04/21/17 02:05 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: jlbuc10]
Thisldu Offline
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Registered: 01/21/05
Posts: 1074
Loc: Alabama
Originally Posted By: jlbuc10

Originally Posted By: WildlifeBiologist
Going to be another tough year for timberland owners in some parts of the South. Drought triggered ips beetle and southern pine beetle outbreaks. Loggers are staying busy with salvage cuts but landowners are taking a beating on price. Now there is a a second wave of distressed timber stands in those same areas. Landowners are having to go back and cut even more, but this time even more aggressively with 2nd thinning or clearcutting entire stands ahead of schedule. Stumpage prices continue to drop as the extra volume floods the market. Mills are making better margin but the landowner is in a lose-lose situation. Cut now and you get pinched on price. Wait for the market to improve and you run the risk of losing large tracts to extended drought damage.

Yep we were in stall mode last year waiting on the market then the drought hit, then we got beetles. Now prices are so it makes it hard to want to cut especially when your trees are your family's retirement. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.


Same here. Damn beetles.

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#2094100 - 04/21/17 04:09 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: Skinny]
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Registered: 07/04/11
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Loc: Marshall County
Originally Posted By: Skinny
The Drought Monitor says we are off to a bad start for Spring.

http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/Home/RegionalDroughtMonitor.aspx?southeast




Yep. Currently 93.16% of the state is in at least some category of drought. This time last year, and we know how bad last year was, 0.00% of the state was in some category of drought. This year could make last year look good.
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#2094116 - 04/21/17 04:21 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
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Loc: Chilton County
Hot as Hades right now and its only mid-April.
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#2094127 - 04/21/17 04:29 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
dirkdaddy Offline
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Registered: 09/13/13
Posts: 1035
Loc: Tuscaloosa
We are basically 2.5 weeks removed from being under threat of killing frosts and it feels like July already. Usual spring-time pattern around here is rain at least 2-3 x weekly like someone else said, and here we are going on day 16 or 17 of no rain. In April. That's unheard of. Gonna be a bad one this year.

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#2094260 - 04/21/17 07:26 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
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Not goin to be any May flowers this year.
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#2094309 - 04/21/17 08:23 PM Re: DROUGHT !!.... Here We Go Again! [Re: rulebreaker]
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Loc: Auburn
So when does the flood start?

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