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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
#2089345
04/15/17 04:31 PM
04/15/17 04:31 PM
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 15,643 Montgomery
bamaeyedoc
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Montgomery
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That property in Montgomery is OK. Really, really swampy. When Catoma creek gets out, it's like a 3rd world country flooding down there. I killed my biggest gob ever about a quarter mile north of that property back in '06. 24lbs, 10 inch beard, 1.25 spurs. I got him full body mounted surrounded by some palmettos.
Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B” Aldeer #121 8-3-2000 Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA Member of Team 10 Point 2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris 1938-2017 UGA Class of 1960 BS/MS Forestry LTJG, USNR
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Re: UA land
[Re: mcfack]
#2091411
04/18/17 08:38 AM
04/18/17 08:38 AM
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 15,643 Montgomery
bamaeyedoc
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Montgomery
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All they care about is the money...not relationships. So you're saying they are like timber companies and any other entity that leases hunting rights? Shocking. Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B” Aldeer #121 8-3-2000 Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA Member of Team 10 Point 2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris 1938-2017 UGA Class of 1960 BS/MS Forestry LTJG, USNR
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Re: UA land
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
#2091509
04/18/17 10:36 AM
04/18/17 10:36 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,174 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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alabama
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All they care about is the money...not relationships. So you're saying they are like timber companies and any other entity that leases hunting rights? Shocking. Dr. B your making light of the mans warning. They(UA) don't give a chitt about anyone who leases land from them, and will not have yer back in ANY dispute with adjoining landowners. UA screwed some friends that had 100+ acres of UA land leased because they alllowed a neighboring leasor(not landowner) to go thru their lease on four wheelers any time they wanted. WTH? I'd hunt their land for free but I sure as hell wouldn't give money to hunt it.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: UA land
[Re: BhamFred]
#2091531
04/18/17 11:10 AM
04/18/17 11:10 AM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
14 point
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14 point
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central ala,
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They(UA) don't give a chitt about anyone who leases land from them, and will not have yer back in ANY dispute with adjoining landowners.
IP/RMS is the worse I've ever seen. They will put the problem off, say its between you and the hunters, ANYTHING to avoid them making a decision. But when the judge points his finger at their (IP/RMS) attorney and says "Y'all are responsible for the hunters, loggers, or any other guest on your property and will be held accountable for their actions" they will come around to a better mindset.
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
#2091836
04/18/17 04:18 PM
04/18/17 04:18 PM
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Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,619 Alabama
Rmart30
10 point
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10 point
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1 yr lease, no guarantee for the next year. They can drop you at their will. As with the state lands the pieces of this land I know of are poached by the neighbors and have been for years. Some of this UA land is as small as 10 acres. Some of the pieces have no access into them and im sure the lease is worded like the state lands leases and they provide no guaranteed access to them. Its up to you to get permission from adjoining landowner to get to it. Caveat Emptor
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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Re: UA land
[Re: BhamFred]
#2092130
04/19/17 04:28 AM
04/19/17 04:28 AM
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 15,643 Montgomery
bamaeyedoc
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Montgomery
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All they care about is the money...not relationships. So you're saying they are like timber companies and any other entity that leases hunting rights? Shocking. Dr. B your making light of the mans warning. They(UA) don't give a chitt about anyone who leases land from them, and will not have yer back in ANY dispute with adjoining landowners. UA screwed some friends that had 100+ acres of UA land leased because they alllowed a neighboring leasor(not landowner) to go thru their lease on four wheelers any time they wanted. WTH? I'd hunt their land for free but I sure as hell wouldn't give money to hunt it. I'm not making light of his statement. I'm agreeing with him. My experience with any business entity and most individuals I've ever leased from is that once the check is in hand, they could not care less about any problems you may have. I've had it happen in the delta leasing duck holes that that had "guaranteed water." Yeah, right. Or "Oh no. You're the only one with rights to turkey hunt" and I show up opening day and the landowners son in law and buddy are there. I could go on and on but I digress here and don't mean to hijack. I don't doubt for one second that when UA unseals the bid and notifies the winner, you're problems are about to begin. Just my .02. Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B” Aldeer #121 8-3-2000 Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA Member of Team 10 Point 2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris 1938-2017 UGA Class of 1960 BS/MS Forestry LTJG, USNR
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
#2092199
04/19/17 06:07 AM
04/19/17 06:07 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,174 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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alabama
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Dr B, they are worse than most I've known over the last 45 years.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
#2092290
04/19/17 08:02 AM
04/19/17 08:02 AM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 63,765 Luverne, AL
Skinny
GUVNER
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GUVNER
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Luverne, AL
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One thing about leasing from a Univ is to keep in mind that someone could show up out of the blue right in the middle of your hunt. I have ruined a few guy's hunting cause I had to be doing work on that property on that day.
Never Trust Government
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: UA land
[Re: Skinny]
#2092324
04/19/17 08:42 AM
04/19/17 08:42 AM
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 15,643 Montgomery
bamaeyedoc
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Montgomery
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One thing about leasing from a Univ is to keep in mind that someone could show up out of the blue right in the middle of your hunt. I have ruined a few guy's hunting cause I had to be doing work on that property on that day. Dammit! That was you??!! Ok, no more 20/20 for you! Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B” Aldeer #121 8-3-2000 Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA Member of Team 10 Point 2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris 1938-2017 UGA Class of 1960 BS/MS Forestry LTJG, USNR
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Re: UA land
[Re: Zach1982]
#2092475
04/19/17 12:25 PM
04/19/17 12:25 PM
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Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,619 Alabama
Rmart30
10 point
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10 point
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Alabama
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I hate to bust all of your bubbles but my one lease that I'm bidding on has up to a 10 year lease guaranteed. But maybe every other lease is different but I would assume there all the same. Just saying No where does it say guaranteed. "Term of the agreement will be for one year and with the Universitys consent, renewable for nine renewal terms of one (1) year each. The University reserves the right to accept or reject any or all bids and to waive formalities." I would assume if someone came in and offered a bid higher for the following year their consent would be to drop the current leaser and take the higher offer.
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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Re: UA land
[Re: centralala]
#2096127
04/23/17 06:02 PM
04/23/17 06:02 PM
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Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 12,018 chilton co.
trox28
on probation
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on probation
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 12,018
chilton co.
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They(UA) don't give a chitt about anyone who leases land from them, and will not have yer back in ANY dispute with adjoining landowners.
IP/RMS is the worse I've ever seen. They will put the problem off, say its between you and the hunters, ANYTHING to avoid them making a decision. But when the judge points his finger at their (IP/RMS) attorney and says "Y'all are responsible for the hunters, loggers, or any other guest on your property and will be held accountable for their actions" they will come around to a better mindset. I have been leasing from RMS for years and they (Justin Stringfellow and Jeff Morris) have always been great to me everytime I had to call them about something.
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
#2099811
04/27/17 02:52 PM
04/27/17 02:52 PM
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Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 394 Auburn, AL
Antlerfluke
4 point
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4 point
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Auburn, AL
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I had a friend that leased the land by Grants Mill Road and they had problems with some piece of crap dude coming through their leased land and cutting locks and really was a bad individual. They had problems with this guy and UA would do nothing about it. They knew who the guy was but no help from UA. Sad.
Last edited by Antlerfluke; 04/27/17 02:53 PM.
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Re: UA land
[Re: Antlerfluke]
#2100675
04/28/17 02:13 PM
04/28/17 02:13 PM
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Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 6,892 Shelby Co, AL
CatHeadBiscuit
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 6,892
Shelby Co, AL
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I had a friend that leased the land by Grants Mill Road and they had problems with some piece of crap dude coming through their leased land and cutting locks and really was a bad individual. They had problems with this guy and UA would do nothing about it. They knew who the guy was but no help from UA. Sad. That one is listed as no hunting. So really has little appeal as a 40' access point on the cahaba river.
"Arguing on the internet is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be good at chess, but the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces down, take a crap on the table, and strut around like its victorious."--Anonymous
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