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Walker Co. Lease prices? #2092374
04/19/17 08:40 AM
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I'm looking at getting 300 acres to hunt next season (Walker Co.) but the land owner doesn't know what a "fair price" would be. The area is currently all mature woods but tree thinning may start summer of 2018.

It has a gravel road along one edge and the whole property is steep hills and valleys.

Is $5 to $10 an acre the going price?


I bought an ATV to get to my hunting area, now half the fun of hunting is the ride in and out.
Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: Bama Bob] #2092409
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5 to 6 an acre


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Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: Bama Bob] #2092412
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Originally Posted By: Bama Bob
... the whole property is steep hills and valleys.


Lol... you already mentioned the place was in Walker County. wink

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Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: Bama Bob] #2092539
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300 acres of Hills and valleys might fit on 30 acres of flat ground

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: DaBreeze] #2092622
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Originally Posted By: DaBreeze
300 acres of Hills and valleys might fit on 30 acres of flat ground


Dewhat?? Other way around.

A grid is a grid. STR's (Section, Township, Range) are overlayed on the earth's surface in most of the U.S. Take 40 "flat" acres. The only way to get a bit more "land" is to have contours (steeper terrain).

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: turkey247] #2092629
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Originally Posted By: turkey247
Originally Posted By: DaBreeze
300 acres of Hills and valleys might fit on 30 acres of flat ground


Dewhat?? Other way around.

A grid is a grid. STR's (Section, Township, Range) are overlayed on the earth's surface in most of the U.S. Take 40 "flat" acres. The only way to get a bit more "land" is to have contours (steeper terrain).


Are yall not saying the same thing?


"In time of war, send me all the Alabamians you can get, but in time of peace, for Lord's sake, send them to somebody else." General Edward H. Plummer

"If a man speaks in the woods and there is no woman there to hear, is he still wrong?"
Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: trlrdrdave] #2092669
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Originally Posted By: trlrdrdave


Are yall not saying the same thing?


Good question!

My point is that you get more surface area on hilly terrain, not less. Acres are measured as a horizontal measurement. An acre is an acre. But you would have more ground surface area on land with terrain as compared to flat ground. Some may say you get more acres, but technically you get more surface area. It would take a bigger blanket to cover a hilly 40 acres than a blanket to cover a flat 40.

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: turkey247] #2092691
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Originally Posted By: turkey247
Originally Posted By: DaBreeze
300 acres of Hills and valleys might fit on 30 acres of flat ground


Dewhat?? Other way around.

A grid is a grid. STR's (Section, Township, Range) are overlayed on the earth's surface in most of the U.S. Take 40 "flat" acres. The only way to get a bit more "land" is to have contours (steeper terrain).


You right! I was bassackwards.

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: Bama Bob] #2092716
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Now I am really caldfused!


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Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: turkey247] #2092725
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Originally Posted By: turkey247
Originally Posted By: trlrdrdave


Are yall not saying the same thing?


Good question!

My point is that you get more surface area on hilly terrain, not less. Acres are measured as a horizontal measurement. An acre is an acre. But you would have more ground surface area on land with terrain as compared to flat ground. Some may say you get more acres, but technically you get more surface area. It would take a bigger blanket to cover a hilly 40 acres than a blanket to cover a flat 40.


So would 40 hilly acres support more tpa than flat ground, possibly leading to a higher timber value on steeper terrain?


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Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: 3FFarms] #2092902
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Originally Posted By: 3FFarms



So would 40 hilly acres support more tpa than flat ground, possibly leading to a higher timber value on steeper terrain?


Yes, but it is so minimal it is not considered in volume calculations.

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: Bama Bob] #2092961
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If interested, Here is a good explanation
Mash here

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: muddyfeet] #2093005
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Originally Posted By: muddyfeet
5 to 6 an acre


Spot on. I pay $5/ac for one lease and $6/ac for another.

Here is a thread from last season…

http://www.aldeer.com/forum/ubbthreads.p...772#Post1941772


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Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: 3FFarms] #2093035
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Originally Posted By: 3FFarms

Originally Posted By: turkey247
Originally Posted By: trlrdrdave


Are yall not saying the same thing?


Good question!

My point is that you get more surface area on hilly terrain, not less. Acres are measured as a horizontal measurement. An acre is an acre. But you would have more ground surface area on land with terrain as compared to flat ground. Some may say you get more acres, but technically you get more surface area. It would take a bigger blanket to cover a hilly 40 acres than a blanket to cover a flat 40.


So would 40 hilly acres support more tpa than flat ground, possibly leading to a higher timber value on steeper terrain?


Unfortunately, there isn't anymore crown space on hilly terrain.



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Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: Bama Bob] #2093126
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The cheapest lease price I've seen anywhere is $7 per acre.


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Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? [Re: Bama Bob] #2093631
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