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Re: 25-06 [Re: joshm28] #2087184
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I'm sure you can kill one at 1k with it all I'm saying is if you use the generally accepted rule of thumb that around 1k ft lbs is needed for an ethical kill once you go past 500 energy is below 1k ft. lbs and dropping quickly with that light bullet. I'm speaking to 110 grain. IMO if you don't make a perfect shot you are going to have one run off and die. And your chances of not making a perfect shot are greatly increased with a light bullet. Just not optimal for those ranges in my opinion.





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Re: 25-06 [Re: Goatkiller] #2087187
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Originally Posted By: Goatkiller
I'm sure you can kill one at 1k with it all I'm saying is if you use the generally accepted rule of thumb that around 1k ft lbs is needed for an ethical kill once you go past 500 energy is below 1k ft. lbs and dropping quickly with that light bullet. I'm speaking to 110 grain. IMO if you don't make a perfect shot you are going to have one run off and die. And your chances of not making a perfect shot are greatly increased with a light bullet. Just not optimal for those ranges in my opinion.






What's your reasoning that chances to make a perfect shot are decreased by a light bullet? I would think that less recoil and less of a rainbow trajectory would increase your chances of a perfect hit rather than decrease them.

Re: 25-06 [Re: quickshot] #2087251
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Easier for the wind to blow around and will bleed velocity quicker Clark other than that nothing.


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Re: 25-06 [Re: R_H_Clark] #2087256
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Won't buck the wind. The BC is too low something under 5 maybe low 4's.

Here is the facts:
Caliber .25-06
Nosler 115 Partition
200 yard zero
MV = 3030
Sight Height 1.5
24 inch barrel
Max Range 1000 yd

At 700 yds
Drop = -113.9
Velocity = 1568
Energy = 628 ft. lbs.

That's wounded deer.

Caliber 7mm Rem Mag
Nosler 160 Partition
200 yard zero
MV = 2950
Sight Height 1.5
24 inch barrel
Max Range 1000 yd

At 700 yds
Drop = -106.9
Velocity = 1730
Energy = 1063 ft. lbs.

That's a dead deer.


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Re: 25-06 [Re: Goatkiller] #2087259
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And that's not even getting into what a 10mph cross wind would do to your dope right/left in the 2 above examples but both the Partitions have an almost equally crappy BC that's just what my calculator pulled up first.


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Re: 25-06 [Re: quickshot] #2087320
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Well,I guess I'm fine since I won't be shooting anything at 700 yards. I was thinking more around a reasonable 400 yard max.In which case you might be better off shooting a low recoiling accurate gun than a magnum that caused you to flinch.

In either case I would rather hunt elk with a larger caliber,however if I had a 25-06 and just wanted to take it and I limited my range to about 300 yards,I have no doubt that a lung shot with the 25-06 would anchor an elk just as fast as a lung shot with a 300 win.

I would just have to be more careful about the shot and limit my distance. I would take a hard angle shot with a 338 win mag where I wouldn't with a 25-06,likely a close running shot would be the same,not with the 25-06, but yes with a larger caliber.

Re: 25-06 [Re: quickshot] #2087407
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I was just pointing out that it COULD kill one past 500. I have a 25-06 but it wouldn't be my first choice for shooting anything past 500. Paper included. It will hit like THORs hammer under 300 though.

Re: 25-06 [Re: quickshot] #2087855
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The 25-06 is all about sex appeal!
Some men can't handle the 25-06 but the ones that do never button the top three buttons on their hunting shirt! Carry lots of condoms if you hunt with the 25-06!


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Re: 25-06 [Re: Goatkiller] #2090498
04/17/17 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted By: Goatkiller
Won't buck the wind. The BC is too low something under 5 maybe low 4's.

Here is the facts:
Caliber .25-06
Nosler 115 Partition
200 yard zero
MV = 3030
Sight Height 1.5
24 inch barrel
Max Range 1000 yd

At 700 yds
Drop = -113.9
Velocity = 1568
Energy = 628 ft. lbs.

That's wounded deer.

Caliber 7mm Rem Mag
Nosler 160 Partition
200 yard zero
MV = 2950
Sight Height 1.5
24 inch barrel
Max Range 1000 yd

At 700 yds
Drop = -106.9
Velocity = 1730
Energy = 1063 ft. lbs.

That's a dead deer.






And just who here has killed a deer at a confirmed 700 yards? crazy

Re: 25-06 [Re: quickshot] #2090512
04/17/17 10:58 AM
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117gr Hornady interlocks in my Ruger m77 MKII target 25-06..Extremely accurate and will drop a deer in its tracks.Shot one at 240yrds this past season with this rifle and he hit the ground and never kicked.

Re: 25-06 [Re: Lonster] #2090557
04/17/17 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: Lonster
Originally Posted By: Goatkiller
Won't buck the wind. The BC is too low something under 5 maybe low 4's.

Here is the facts:
Caliber .25-06
Nosler 115 Partition
200 yard zero
MV = 3030
Sight Height 1.5
24 inch barrel
Max Range 1000 yd

At 700 yds
Drop = -113.9
Velocity = 1568
Energy = 628 ft. lbs.

That's wounded deer.

Caliber 7mm Rem Mag
Nosler 160 Partition
200 yard zero
MV = 2950
Sight Height 1.5
24 inch barrel
Max Range 1000 yd

At 700 yds
Drop = -106.9
Velocity = 1730
Energy = 1063 ft. lbs.

That's a dead deer.






And just who here has killed a deer at a confirmed 700 yards? crazy


me


Only accurate rifles are interesting.
Re: 25-06 [Re: quickshot] #2090572
04/17/17 11:52 AM
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625 is longest for me..270Win

prolly 400 yards longest with my 25/06


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: 25-06 [Re: quickshot] #2090603
04/17/17 12:46 PM
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Well i appreciate all the input good and bad on the 25 cal i went ahead and placed the order today so hopefully this time next week i will be able to pick it up. Looking for to trying to work up some hand loads for it.

Re: 25-06 [Re: quickshot] #2091376
04/18/17 08:10 AM
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Good deal man. Mine likes the 115gr bergers and they are bad medicine on deer


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Re: 25-06 [Re: quickshot] #2091502
04/18/17 10:23 AM
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Re: 25-06 [Re: 87dixieboy] #2091798
04/18/17 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: 87dixieboy
Originally Posted By: Lonster
Originally Posted By: Goatkiller
Won't buck the wind. The BC is too low something under 5 maybe low 4's.

Here is the facts:
Caliber .25-06
Nosler 115 Partition
200 yard zero
MV = 3030
Sight Height 1.5
24 inch barrel
Max Range 1000 yd

At 700 yds
Drop = -113.9
Velocity = 1568
Energy = 628 ft. lbs.

That's wounded deer.

Caliber 7mm Rem Mag
Nosler 160 Partition
200 yard zero
MV = 2950
Sight Height 1.5
24 inch barrel
Max Range 1000 yd

At 700 yds
Drop = -106.9
Velocity = 1730
Energy = 1063 ft. lbs.

That's a dead deer.






And just who here has killed a deer at a confirmed 700 yards? crazy


me

Gonna say I know you have. Now if they were with a 25-06 I don't know.

But whether y'all believe me or not I don't care but one of my best friends shot a 7 point right at 700 yards with a 25-06. On a power line below Troy.

Re: 25-06 [Re: quickshot] #2091843
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A fast 25 caliber like a 25-06 or 257 Roy is good for shooting deer / pronghorn out to about 500 yards or thereabouts. However, 25 cal bullets have low BC's and the velocity has a more rapid decline when compared to high BC bullets in 6.5 or 7 mm bullets at extended ranges. Also, they are more prone to wind deflection due to their low BC's.


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Re: 25-06 [Re: quickshot] #2091990
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Soon this rifle gets in I'll see if i can post up some pictures or maybe have someone else do it if i can figure it out. This rifle is a 26" barrel single shot like i said before, and 300-400yd may be will be max shots with it if that. Anything further and I'll pick up my 6.5creed or something else in the safe.

Re: 25-06 [Re: ColeT] #2092052
04/19/17 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: ColeT

Originally Posted By: 87dixieboy
Originally Posted By: Lonster
Originally Posted By: Goatkiller
Won't buck the wind. The BC is too low something under 5 maybe low 4's.

Here is the facts:
Caliber .25-06
Nosler 115 Partition
200 yard zero
MV = 3030
Sight Height 1.5
24 inch barrel
Max Range 1000 yd

At 700 yds
Drop = -113.9
Velocity = 1568
Energy = 628 ft. lbs.

That's wounded deer.

Caliber 7mm Rem Mag
Nosler 160 Partition
200 yard zero
MV = 2950
Sight Height 1.5
24 inch barrel
Max Range 1000 yd

At 700 yds
Drop = -106.9
Velocity = 1730
Energy = 1063 ft. lbs.

That's a dead deer.






And just who here has killed a deer at a confirmed 700 yards? crazy


me

Gonna say I know you have. Now if they were with a 25-06 I don't know.

But whether y'all believe me or not I don't care but one of my best friends shot a 7 point right at 700 yards with a 25-06. On a power line below Troy.


Furthest with a 25-06 was 520, wasn't my gun. 300 win mag 575yds and 1100yds. 338 lapua 620yds and 1100 yds.


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Re: 25-06 [Re: quickshot] #2093578
04/20/17 07:02 PM
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Love mine. 115gr NBT. Max IMR4350.
Does great on AL deer at most typical ranges one might encounter.
If you like 130gr in 270 you really appreciate the slight milder recoil and spectacular kill powering of the 25-06.

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