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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
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04/15/17 04:31 PM
04/15/17 04:31 PM
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bamaeyedoc
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That property in Montgomery is OK. Really, really swampy. When Catoma creek gets out, it's like a 3rd world country flooding down there. I killed my biggest gob ever about a quarter mile north of that property back in '06. 24lbs, 10 inch beard, 1.25 spurs. I got him full body mounted surrounded by some palmettos.
Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B”
Aldeer #121
8-3-2000
Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA
Member of Team 10 Point
2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
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1938-2017
UGA Class of 1960
BS/MS Forestry
LTJG, USNR
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Re: UA land
[Re: mcfack]
#2091411
04/18/17 08:38 AM
04/18/17 08:38 AM
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Montgomery
bamaeyedoc
Old Mossy Horns
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All they care about is the money...not relationships. So you're saying they are like timber companies and any other entity that leases hunting rights? Shocking. Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B”
Aldeer #121
8-3-2000
Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA
Member of Team 10 Point
2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris
1938-2017
UGA Class of 1960
BS/MS Forestry
LTJG, USNR
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Re: UA land
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
#2091509
04/18/17 10:36 AM
04/18/17 10:36 AM
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alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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All they care about is the money...not relationships. So you're saying they are like timber companies and any other entity that leases hunting rights? Shocking. Dr. B your making light of the mans warning. They(UA) don't give a chitt about anyone who leases land from them, and will not have yer back in ANY dispute with adjoining landowners. UA screwed some friends that had 100+ acres of UA land leased because they alllowed a neighboring leasor(not landowner) to go thru their lease on four wheelers any time they wanted. WTH? I'd hunt their land for free but I sure as hell wouldn't give money to hunt it.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: UA land
[Re: BhamFred]
#2091531
04/18/17 11:10 AM
04/18/17 11:10 AM
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centralala
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They(UA) don't give a chitt about anyone who leases land from them, and will not have yer back in ANY dispute with adjoining landowners.
IP/RMS is the worse I've ever seen. They will put the problem off, say its between you and the hunters, ANYTHING to avoid them making a decision. But when the judge points his finger at their (IP/RMS) attorney and says "Y'all are responsible for the hunters, loggers, or any other guest on your property and will be held accountable for their actions" they will come around to a better mindset.
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Re: UA land
[Re: mcfack]
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04/18/17 11:32 AM
04/18/17 11:32 AM
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Spanish Fort
ozarktroutbum
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All they care about is the money...not relationships. I know NOTHING about this program but after looking and seeing that they appear to lease every property by auction every year, you look to be correct.
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
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04/18/17 04:18 PM
04/18/17 04:18 PM
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Alabama
Rmart30
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1 yr lease, no guarantee for the next year. They can drop you at their will. As with the state lands the pieces of this land I know of are poached by the neighbors and have been for years.
Some of this UA land is as small as 10 acres. Some of the pieces have no access into them and im sure the lease is worded like the state lands leases and they provide no guaranteed access to them. Its up to you to get permission from adjoining landowner to get to it.
Caveat Emptor
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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Re: UA land
[Re: BhamFred]
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04/19/17 04:28 AM
04/19/17 04:28 AM
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Montgomery
bamaeyedoc
Old Mossy Horns
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All they care about is the money...not relationships. So you're saying they are like timber companies and any other entity that leases hunting rights? Shocking. Dr. B your making light of the mans warning. They(UA) don't give a chitt about anyone who leases land from them, and will not have yer back in ANY dispute with adjoining landowners. UA screwed some friends that had 100+ acres of UA land leased because they alllowed a neighboring leasor(not landowner) to go thru their lease on four wheelers any time they wanted. WTH? I'd hunt their land for free but I sure as hell wouldn't give money to hunt it. I'm not making light of his statement. I'm agreeing with him. My experience with any business entity and most individuals I've ever leased from is that once the check is in hand, they could not care less about any problems you may have. I've had it happen in the delta leasing duck holes that that had "guaranteed water." Yeah, right. Or "Oh no. You're the only one with rights to turkey hunt" and I show up opening day and the landowners son in law and buddy are there. I could go on and on but I digress here and don't mean to hijack. I don't doubt for one second that when UA unseals the bid and notifies the winner, you're problems are about to begin. Just my .02. Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B”
Aldeer #121
8-3-2000
Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA
Member of Team 10 Point
2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
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1938-2017
UGA Class of 1960
BS/MS Forestry
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
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04/19/17 06:07 AM
04/19/17 06:07 AM
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alabama
BhamFred
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Dr B, they are worse than most I've known over the last 45 years.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
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04/19/17 08:02 AM
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Skinny
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One thing about leasing from a Univ is to keep in mind that someone could show up out of the blue right in the middle of your hunt. I have ruined a few guy's hunting cause I had to be doing work on that property on that day.
Never Trust Government
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: UA land
[Re: Skinny]
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04/19/17 08:42 AM
04/19/17 08:42 AM
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Montgomery
bamaeyedoc
Old Mossy Horns
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One thing about leasing from a Univ is to keep in mind that someone could show up out of the blue right in the middle of your hunt. I have ruined a few guy's hunting cause I had to be doing work on that property on that day. Dammit! That was you??!! Ok, no more 20/20 for you!  Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B”
Aldeer #121
8-3-2000
Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA
Member of Team 10 Point
2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris
1938-2017
UGA Class of 1960
BS/MS Forestry
LTJG, USNR
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Re: UA land
[Re: Zach1982]
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04/19/17 12:25 PM
04/19/17 12:25 PM
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Rmart30
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I hate to bust all of your bubbles but my one lease that I'm bidding on has up to a 10 year lease guaranteed. But maybe every other lease is different but I would assume there all the same. Just saying No where does it say guaranteed. "Term of the agreement will be for one year and with the Universitys consent, renewable for nine renewal terms of one (1) year each. The University reserves the right to accept or reject any or all bids and to waive formalities." I would assume if someone came in and offered a bid higher for the following year their consent would be to drop the current leaser and take the higher offer.
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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Re: UA land
[Re: centralala]
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04/23/17 06:02 PM
04/23/17 06:02 PM
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chilton co.
trox28
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They(UA) don't give a chitt about anyone who leases land from them, and will not have yer back in ANY dispute with adjoining landowners.
IP/RMS is the worse I've ever seen. They will put the problem off, say its between you and the hunters, ANYTHING to avoid them making a decision. But when the judge points his finger at their (IP/RMS) attorney and says "Y'all are responsible for the hunters, loggers, or any other guest on your property and will be held accountable for their actions" they will come around to a better mindset. I have been leasing from RMS for years and they (Justin Stringfellow and Jeff Morris) have always been great to me everytime I had to call them about something.
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
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04/27/17 02:52 PM
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Antlerfluke
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I had a friend that leased the land by Grants Mill Road and they had problems with some piece of crap dude coming through their leased land and cutting locks and really was a bad individual. They had problems with this guy and UA would do nothing about it. They knew who the guy was but no help from UA. Sad.
Last edited by Antlerfluke; 04/27/17 02:53 PM.
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Re: UA land
[Re: Antlerfluke]
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04/28/17 02:13 PM
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CatHeadBiscuit
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I had a friend that leased the land by Grants Mill Road and they had problems with some piece of crap dude coming through their leased land and cutting locks and really was a bad individual. They had problems with this guy and UA would do nothing about it. They knew who the guy was but no help from UA. Sad. That one is listed as no hunting. So really has little appeal as a 40' access point on the cahaba river.
"Arguing on the internet is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be good at chess, but the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces down, take a crap on the table, and strut around like its victorious."--Anonymous
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Re: UA land
[Re: Antlerfluke]
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04/29/17 02:44 PM
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BibbHunter
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I had a friend that leased the land by Grants Mill Road and they had problems with some piece of crap dude coming through their leased land and cutting locks and really was a bad individual. They had problems with this guy and UA would do nothing about it. They knew who the guy was but no help from UA. Sad. how much trouble could you get in if you cut a few fingers off with whatever bolt cutters he had?
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Re: UA land
[Re: Antlerfluke]
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04/30/17 04:59 PM
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Powpow65
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I had a friend that leased the land by Grants Mill Road and they had problems with some piece of crap dude coming through their leased land and cutting locks and really was a bad individual. They had problems with this guy and UA would do nothing about it. They knew who the guy was but no help from UA. Sad. That situation would need to be handled just like if you owned the land. What could the university do anyway?
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Re: UA land
[Re: Powpow65]
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04/30/17 06:04 PM
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Turkey_neck
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I had a friend that leased the land by Grants Mill Road and they had problems with some piece of crap dude coming through their leased land and cutting locks and really was a bad individual. They had problems with this guy and UA would do nothing about it. They knew who the guy was but no help from UA. Sad. That situation would need to be handled just like if you owned the land. What could the university do anyway? Yea if you have the lease you call the game warden and sign the warrant. Not the timber company or land owner unless you just have permission not a lease.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
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05/10/17 04:01 AM
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How'd this go? Anybody get any of this land?
Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B”
Aldeer #121
8-3-2000
Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA
Member of Team 10 Point
2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris
1938-2017
UGA Class of 1960
BS/MS Forestry
LTJG, USNR
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
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05/10/17 06:05 AM
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I had a friend get the piece that he was after. No way I would have paid what the group he is in paid for it, but they are happy.
A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
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05/10/17 06:13 AM
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that Grants Mill land went for $20-25 per acre a dozen years ago.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: UA land
[Re: BhamFred]
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05/10/17 05:00 PM
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CatHeadBiscuit
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that Grants Mill land went for $20-25 per acre a dozen years ago. [video:youtube] https://youtu.be/OHVjs4aobqs[/video]
"Arguing on the internet is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be good at chess, but the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces down, take a crap on the table, and strut around like its victorious."--Anonymous
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
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05/10/17 09:41 PM
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BhamFred
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funny^^^ it isn't a big tract and it does back up to Liberty Park.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
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05/11/17 09:50 AM
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It looks like a nice little bow hunting area from the satellite views. But with the talk of trespass problems and not supposed to hunt it, I didn't bid. But that wouldn't have hardly mattered with those kind of numbers being floated around.
"Arguing on the internet is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be good at chess, but the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces down, take a crap on the table, and strut around like its victorious."--Anonymous
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Re: UA land
[Re: Hoytdad10]
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05/11/17 04:29 PM
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eskimo270
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I had a friend get the piece that he was after. No way I would have paid what the group he is in paid for it, but they are happy. was it the Houston Co property?
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Re: UA land
[Re: Hoytdad10]
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06/03/17 06:42 AM
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Guy,s Im A huge Alabama fan but there forestrey deparment is in it strictly for the money.I know this personally.I hunted 212 acres of land for over 30 years.The owner died that owned tt owned the land 2 years ago.His name was John Deramus Jr.He had a sister that lives in Georiga.She owned half the property that I hunted,when he died she was to inherit the land.she did for a while,she thought,They also co owned around 500 acres near Isabella.I met with her a month after Mr Deramus died and she wrwrote me a long term permit to continue to hunt the 212 acres.Then about a month later she called me back and said there was a mistake that her brother Mr Deramus had donated his half of the property to the Unversity of Alabama, and they would be takeing care over her property as well.That being said,she gave me the forester,s information. HIS Name is Mark Beeler.He let me continue to hunt the property last year,because of them transferring the land to the unversity. He told me the land would be leased out starting this season.I ask could I make an offer to continue to hunt it and he claimed they had to post it on a website for lease that was the law.thats a bunch of crap.Its all about the money.They had a closed slip lease that wasMay 2nd at 1:30.Come to find out someone bid more than me and got the land.I never had to pay Mr Deramus a nickel.I just had to get Insurance. BUT the way I understood the lease agreement one year then they repeat the process. EVER Who got the lease payed a good bit of money ,there,deer and turkey there but they are hard to hunt.But I still hunt 300 acres all the way around the property.And all the local people around there dump a ton of garbage on it,and do drugs down all the logging roads.I lived a mile from it so I kept it clean and bushoged.Its the property located on the chilton autauga county line.off of cr 443 and cr444.
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Re: UA land
[Re: Breadwinner1]
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06/03/17 02:40 PM
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Guy,s Im A huge Alabama fan but there forestrey deparment is in it strictly for the money.I know this personally.I hunted 212 acres of land for over 30 years.The owner died that owned tt owned the land 2 years ago.His name was John Deramus Jr.He had a sister that lives in Georiga.She owned half the property that I hunted,when he died she was to inherit the land.she did for a while,she thought,They also co owned around 500 acres near Isabella.I met with her a month after Mr Deramus died and she wrwrote me a long term permit to continue to hunt the 212 acres.Then about a month later she called me back and said there was a mistake that her brother Mr Deramus had donated his half of the property to the Unversity of Alabama, and they would be takeing care over her property as well.That being said,she gave me the forester,s information. HIS Name is Mark Beeler.He let me continue to hunt the property last year,because of them transferring the land to the unversity. He told me the land would be leased out starting this season.I ask could I make an offer to continue to hunt it and he claimed they had to post it on a website for lease that was the law.thats a bunch of crap.Its all about the money.They had a closed slip lease that wasMay 2nd at 1:30.Come to find out someone bid more than me and got the land.I never had to pay Mr Deramus a nickel.I just had to get Insurance. BUT the way I understood the lease agreement one year then they repeat the process. EVER Who got the lease payed a good bit of money ,there,deer and turkey there but they are hard to hunt.But I still hunt 300 acres all the way around the property.And all the local people around there dump a ton of garbage on it,and do drugs down all the logging roads.I lived a mile from it so I kept it clean and bushoged.Its the property located on the chilton autauga county line.off of cr 443 and cr444. You do realize university's have certain rules they have to go by don't you Rock?
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: UA land
[Re: Powpow65]
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06/03/17 04:48 PM
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hayman
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Lord help the other guy.
I have been that guy!
“Everything Woke Turns To SH_T” Donald J. Trump
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Re: UA land
[Re: Big AL 76]
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06/03/17 04:56 PM
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bamaeyedoc
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I know the feeling. I learned a long time ago that if you don't own the land yourself, there is a time limit on how long you will be able to hunt it. Good luck on the other tract.
Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B”
Aldeer #121
8-3-2000
Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA
Member of Team 10 Point
2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris
1938-2017
UGA Class of 1960
BS/MS Forestry
LTJG, USNR
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Re: UA land
[Re: hayman]
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06/03/17 05:04 PM
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Powpow65
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Lord help the other guy.
I have been that guy! I'm glad I didn't get that 212 acres
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Re: UA land
[Re: Breadwinner1]
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06/03/17 05:35 PM
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hayman
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I talked with the UA forester, he told me that the winning bid was ten dollars and 26 cents guess I can bid a better price next year.Just to ease your minds I only trophy hunt. So ever who,s got the place we can come together and kill some big deer. I dont believe in shooting does or small bucks. I can't believe someone did a complete 180. For real no exceptions.
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Re: UA land
[Re: hayman]
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06/18/17 09:08 AM
06/18/17 09:08 AM
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Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 12,018
chilton co.
trox28
on probation
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on probation
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 12,018
chilton co.
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I talked with the UA forester, he told me that the winning bid was ten dollars and 26 cents guess I can bid a better price next year.Just to ease your minds I only trophy hunt. So ever who,s got the place we can come together and kill some big deer. I dont believe in shooting does or small bucks. I can't believe someone did a complete 180. For real no exceptions. 80"-100" 2yr old trophys
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