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UA land #2088227
04/14/17 06:44 AM
04/14/17 06:44 AM
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McCalla
Big AL 76 Offline OP
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The U of A has some tracts posted for bid in a few weeks..
http://universitylands.ua.edu/landmanagement-recreational/

Re: UA land [Re: Big AL 76] #2088894
04/15/17 05:22 AM
04/15/17 05:22 AM
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Northport, AL
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Thanks for sharing


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Re: UA land [Re: Big AL 76] #2089345
04/15/17 04:31 PM
04/15/17 04:31 PM
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Montgomery
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Old Mossy Horns
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That property in Montgomery is OK. Really, really swampy. When Catoma creek gets out, it's like a 3rd world country flooding down there. I killed my biggest gob ever about a quarter mile north of that property back in '06. 24lbs, 10 inch beard, 1.25 spurs. I got him full body mounted surrounded by some palmettos.

Dr. B


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Aldeer #121
8-3-2000
Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA
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2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners

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1938-2017
UGA Class of 1960
BS/MS Forestry
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Re: UA land [Re: Big AL 76] #2089391
04/15/17 05:23 PM
04/15/17 05:23 PM
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Central Alabama
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Has anyone on here ever leased from the university?

Re: UA land [Re: Big AL 76] #2090740
04/17/17 03:14 PM
04/17/17 03:14 PM
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Hoover
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I have. A good piece in Walker Co for 4-5 yrs. it was Bow only. The only thing that was crappy is every 3yrs back then the property was put up for bid again. No regard to whether you were a good lessor. After 3 yrs didn't matter if you put $10k into the property it always goes up for bid again. When it came up for bid with us we put a high bid in b/c we didn't want to lose it. All they care about is the money...not relationships. It might have changed by now but that's the way it was then.

Re: UA land [Re: mcfack] #2091411
04/18/17 08:38 AM
04/18/17 08:38 AM
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Montgomery
bamaeyedoc Offline
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Montgomery
Originally Posted By: mcfack
All they care about is the money...not relationships.


So you're saying they are like timber companies and any other entity that leases hunting rights? Shocking.

Dr. B


AKA: “Dr. B”
Aldeer #121
8-3-2000
Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA
Member of Team 10 Point
2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners

Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris
1938-2017
UGA Class of 1960
BS/MS Forestry
LTJG, USNR



Re: UA land [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2091509
04/18/17 10:36 AM
04/18/17 10:36 AM
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alabama
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Originally Posted By: bamaeyedoc
Originally Posted By: mcfack
All they care about is the money...not relationships.


So you're saying they are like timber companies and any other entity that leases hunting rights? Shocking.

Dr. B


your making light of the mans warning. They(UA) don't give a chitt about anyone who leases land from them, and will not have yer back in ANY dispute with adjoining landowners.

UA screwed some friends that had 100+ acres of UA land leased because they alllowed a neighboring leasor(not landowner) to go thru their lease on four wheelers any time they wanted. WTH?

I'd hunt their land for free but I sure as hell wouldn't give money to hunt it.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: UA land [Re: BhamFred] #2091531
04/18/17 11:10 AM
04/18/17 11:10 AM
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central ala,
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
They(UA) don't give a chitt about anyone who leases land from them, and will not have yer back in ANY dispute with adjoining landowners.



IP/RMS is the worse I've ever seen. They will put the problem off, say its between you and the hunters, ANYTHING to avoid them making a decision. But when the judge points his finger at their (IP/RMS) attorney and says "Y'all are responsible for the hunters, loggers, or any other guest on your property and will be held accountable for their actions" they will come around to a better mindset.

Re: UA land [Re: mcfack] #2091548
04/18/17 11:32 AM
04/18/17 11:32 AM
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Spanish Fort
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Spanish Fort
Originally Posted By: mcfack
All they care about is the money...not relationships.


I know NOTHING about this program but after looking and seeing that they appear to lease every property by auction every year, you look to be correct.

Re: UA land [Re: Big AL 76] #2091836
04/18/17 04:18 PM
04/18/17 04:18 PM
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Alabama
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Rmart30 Offline
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Alabama
1 yr lease, no guarantee for the next year. They can drop you at their will. As with the state lands the pieces of this land I know of are poached by the neighbors and have been for years.
Some of this UA land is as small as 10 acres. Some of the pieces have no access into them and im sure the lease is worded like the state lands leases and they provide no guaranteed access to them. Its up to you to get permission from adjoining landowner to get to it.
Caveat Emptor


Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
Re: UA land [Re: BhamFred] #2092130
04/19/17 04:28 AM
04/19/17 04:28 AM
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Montgomery
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Montgomery
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
Originally Posted By: bamaeyedoc
Originally Posted By: mcfack
All they care about is the money...not relationships.


So you're saying they are like timber companies and any other entity that leases hunting rights? Shocking.

Dr. B


your making light of the mans warning. They(UA) don't give a chitt about anyone who leases land from them, and will not have yer back in ANY dispute with adjoining landowners.

UA screwed some friends that had 100+ acres of UA land leased because they alllowed a neighboring leasor(not landowner) to go thru their lease on four wheelers any time they wanted. WTH?

I'd hunt their land for free but I sure as hell wouldn't give money to hunt it.


I'm not making light of his statement. I'm agreeing with him. My experience with any business entity and most individuals I've ever leased from is that once the check is in hand, they could not care less about any problems you may have. I've had it happen in the delta leasing duck holes that that had "guaranteed water." Yeah, right. Or "Oh no. You're the only one with rights to turkey hunt" and I show up opening day and the landowners son in law and buddy are there. I could go on and on but I digress here and don't mean to hijack. I don't doubt for one second that when UA unseals the bid and notifies the winner, you're problems are about to begin. Just my .02.

Dr. B


AKA: “Dr. B”
Aldeer #121
8-3-2000
Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA
Member of Team 10 Point
2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners

Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris
1938-2017
UGA Class of 1960
BS/MS Forestry
LTJG, USNR



Re: UA land [Re: Big AL 76] #2092199
04/19/17 06:07 AM
04/19/17 06:07 AM
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alabama
BhamFred Offline
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Dr B, they are worse than most I've known over the last 45 years.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: UA land [Re: Big AL 76] #2092290
04/19/17 08:02 AM
04/19/17 08:02 AM
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Luverne, AL
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One thing about leasing from a Univ is to keep in mind that someone could show up out of the blue right in the middle of your hunt. I have ruined a few guy's hunting cause I had to be doing work on that property on that day.


Never Trust Government

"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
Re: UA land [Re: Skinny] #2092324
04/19/17 08:42 AM
04/19/17 08:42 AM
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Montgomery
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Montgomery
Originally Posted By: Skinny
One thing about leasing from a Univ is to keep in mind that someone could show up out of the blue right in the middle of your hunt. I have ruined a few guy's hunting cause I had to be doing work on that property on that day.


Dammit! That was you??!! Ok, no more 20/20 for you! rofl

Dr. B


AKA: “Dr. B”
Aldeer #121
8-3-2000
Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA
Member of Team 10 Point
2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners

Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris
1938-2017
UGA Class of 1960
BS/MS Forestry
LTJG, USNR



Re: UA land [Re: Big AL 76] #2092358
04/19/17 09:25 AM
04/19/17 09:25 AM
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Tuscaloosa, AL
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Zach1982 Offline
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Tuscaloosa, AL
I hate to bust all of your bubbles but my one lease that I'm bidding on has up to a 10 year lease guaranteed. But maybe every other lease is different but I would assume there all the same. Just saying

Re: UA land [Re: Big AL 76] #2092360
04/19/17 09:27 AM
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Tuscaloosa, AL
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Read the paragraphs after Successful Bidder in the invitation to bids

Re: UA land [Re: Zach1982] #2092475
04/19/17 12:25 PM
04/19/17 12:25 PM
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Rmart30 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Zach1982
I hate to bust all of your bubbles but my one lease that I'm bidding on has up to a 10 year lease guaranteed. But maybe every other lease is different but I would assume there all the same. Just saying


No where does it say guaranteed.

"Term of the agreement will be for one year and with the Universitys consent, renewable for nine renewal terms of one (1) year each.
The University reserves the right to accept or reject any or all bids and to waive formalities."

I would assume if someone came in and offered a bid higher for the following year their consent would be to drop the current leaser and take the higher offer.


Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
Re: UA land [Re: centralala] #2096127
04/23/17 06:02 PM
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chilton co.
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Originally Posted By: centralala
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
They(UA) don't give a chitt about anyone who leases land from them, and will not have yer back in ANY dispute with adjoining landowners.



IP/RMS is the worse I've ever seen. They will put the problem off, say its between you and the hunters, ANYTHING to avoid them making a decision. But when the judge points his finger at their (IP/RMS) attorney and says "Y'all are responsible for the hunters, loggers, or any other guest on your property and will be held accountable for their actions" they will come around to a better mindset.


I have been leasing from RMS for years and they (Justin Stringfellow and Jeff Morris) have always been great to me everytime I had to call them about something.

Re: UA land [Re: Big AL 76] #2099811
04/27/17 02:52 PM
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Auburn, AL
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I had a friend that leased the land by Grants Mill Road and they had problems with some piece of crap dude coming through their leased land and cutting locks and really was a bad individual. They had problems with this guy and UA would do nothing about it. They knew who the guy was but no help from UA. Sad.

Last edited by Antlerfluke; 04/27/17 02:53 PM.
Re: UA land [Re: Antlerfluke] #2100675
04/28/17 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: Antlerfluke
I had a friend that leased the land by Grants Mill Road and they had problems with some piece of crap dude coming through their leased land and cutting locks and really was a bad individual. They had problems with this guy and UA would do nothing about it. They knew who the guy was but no help from UA. Sad.

That one is listed as no hunting. So really has little appeal as a 40' access point on the cahaba river.


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