I'm not knocking anybody's dog on here so to the guys who took offense to anything I posted shouldn't. I didn't mean it offensive in one way possible everybody has there own wants and likes. I'm just stating facts

If you plan to run hunt test your more than welcome to come to Saturday training days here and myself and other knowledgeable guys will be more than glad to help guide you in the right direction

My dog has not had the health clearances yet, only the sir and dam. I don't know the results of the parents off hand.

I didn't take offense but there will always be dogs that buck the rules and turn great no mater the color.

Oh goodness. What did I get started?

I agree with the crate or pen when you can't work them.
I'm sure a lot of dogs will chew things. I had hounds all my life,Black and Tans, Walkers, Red Bones, and I never had one destroy anything by chewing it up until I got a Lab. I'm talking about she went into my shed and chewed the handles off my shovel and rake,kind of destruction.

This is one of the dogs that shows up multiple times in my chocolate female’s lineage on both her mom and dad's pedigree. I think it’s where she gets a lot of that race horse look. I don’t know much about it but he’s apparently a pretty good fetch player.

http://www.huntinglabpedigree.com/pedigree.asp?id=151

Haha totally understand hey you I know exactly what you mean I had somebody bring me one that said he chews everything I said ah can't be that bad. She replies he tore all the gutters off of my house from to back. Grabbed the drain and pulled it the whole thing off all the way down the house. I hope nobody took offense to any of this cause all there can be great dogs In all colors ive seen it. Just seen more in black. Hope everybody has a blessed night. I will say the best blood trailing dog I ever saw bar none was a big choc male

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Very nice lean mac is responsible for prob more titled offspring than any other dog in history ! Congrats
Lots of people would argue he was the best fetch player lol. And yes I'm sure that's where she gets her spunk I've delt with that lineage

I picked the litter for the pedigree, but I picked the individual dog based on testing the pups. I chose her over the black ones because she showed more interest in what I wanted her for. To really be good at blood tracking requires a quality dog too. I feel like I have one even if she is chocolate colored.

You may very well with her breeding!!! and I hope you do maybe calling you to come fetch a deer for me with her lol.

In all seriousness, her desire to play “fetch” is freaking insane. I’ve got a ball laying in my lap right now as I type and she is giving me an intense stare wanting me to throw it. This is where I’m coming from with the crazy prey drive. She almost zones out and her teeth start chattering she wants it so bad. My biggest issue with her dfrom a tracking standpoint right now is trying to make her throttle back and not want to get the deer leg so much that she completely abandons technique. She’s only 11 moths old though so I’m expecting on a lot of that to come with age. It typically does with most any breed of tracking dog. They have to mature to get truly good at it.

Wow that is insane. She like blood?

Oh yeah……One of the things you do with a tracking dog is play with them with a leg making it their favorite toy and making it where they really WANT to find it. When I run her on a training track we always play fetch and tug of war with the leg after she finds it. She starts tearing into the leg to the point that I’m afraid she's gonna get my finger and take it off. I’ll likely have to use the E-collar with her some on live deer to keep her off of them. That is my biggest concern with her moving into next tracking season. She’ll start running at lot of real tracks next year and I know were gonna have a learning curve on dealing with the ones that are still alive. Being too aggressive with live deer will get a dog hurt. She’s got a great nose though. She actually puts and keeps her nose on the ground a lot better than my Kopov (hound) did at that age.He probably has a stronger nose when it comes to old cold lines but my lab still seems to have plenty of nose from what I've seen.

Color doesn't make a hill of beans IMO. If the dog is bred well you've given yourself a chance. I own a chocolate male, he's nothing special talent and intelligence wise but he has an HRCH and is QAA. Pretty well stopped running him in trials due to lack of training time but he was getting to the end of some opens and AM's when we scaled back. I own a black dog that is much more talented and more intelligent but he's not that way because he's black. He was just born with more to work with.

Buying a well Bree black dog is easier because the options are endless, it's tougher to find well bred chocolate dogs. Plenty of people breed crappy chocolate dogs because of color but the ones bred for the right reasons are just as talented as any black dog you can find.

I've got a English fox red lab and have never had a minute trouble out of her chewing or barking. I never meant to use her for blood tracking but she took to it on her own. The biggest difference I see is the English labs are more laid back and not so "high strung".

My girlfriends family raises British labs and I have noticed that also.
When the time comes I want/ready for a dog I'll be getting one.

I have no idea what my Yellow lab's blooline is but I wouldn't trade him for all the high dollar dogs in the world.
The smartest dog I ever seen was a half black lab/ half GSP I had when I was a kid. Retrievie ducks in the morning and point quail or flush pheasants in the afternoon. Even taught him to fish.

As someone who just had to put my chocolate down, this is the popular mantra out there. Every dog/bloodline is different, but this concept has some truth in it.

I've hunted over 50+ duck dogs ranging in ability from crap to world class over my years and this exists for a reason.

I've heard those British labs make great service dogs. I had a yellow lab years ago that weighed 100-110 pounds. Vet in Montgomery said he was the biggest lab he had ever seen. That dog sure was smart. Use to climb the chain link fence and walk on the top rail to get out