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Re: Martha Roby [Re: Fuzzy_Bunny] #2069208
03/25/17 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: Fuzzy_Bunny
Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
Originally Posted By: centralala
I went from supporting her to she needs to go now! She did not support Trump for President...which is her right. But she had to have a press conference and tell everyone. She gambled, did her grandstanding when she could have kept it to herself, and she lost the gamble. Then had the nerve to attend the inaguaration!!! Its time for to pay that gambling debt.



Typical hypocrite politician.


Yep


Yep x 2


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Re: Martha Roby [Re: WmHunter] #2069213
03/25/17 08:40 AM
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She was in favor of the RINO Care Big Government
substitute for the ObamaCare/ACA.

Stupid broad.
Hate to say that but she is a real big air head.
Her heart is in the right place but she does not have
the brains for the job.

I have been trying to do internet research on the length
of the proposed bill. I want to know exactly how many pages it was. THAT will tell you everything you need to know. If it was more than a quarter inch stack of paper then you know it was bs.

I had one guy tell me it was 11,000 pages!
Since the original ACA was 2000 pages I find it hard to believer that the RINOs would try to top that to such an extreme.

Could some folks out there join me in trying to find out exactly how many pages it was please? And then post the links here so we know for certain.

****

Here is one summary of the proposed law.
A lot better then the ACA but still problematic.

http://www.vox.com/2017/3/6/14829526/american-health-care-act-gop-replacement



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Re: Martha Roby [Re: WmHunter] #2069218
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Ok, I found this: says it is 1990 something pages - large margin/headers/spacing so really less that the 1990 :


https://computationallegalstudies.com/2009/11/08/facts-about-the-length-of-h-r-3962/


"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

Re: Martha Roby [Re: Skinny] #2069638
03/25/17 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
Didnt I make a post a couple weeks back about how Paul Ryan should be toast? Seems like Trump set his ass up to show what a total failure Paul Ryan and the RINO's are.


Not. Did you miss all the parts where Trump threatened the R congress with primary challenges if they didn't get on board. Everything I can discern about the bill says it was a steaming pile of dog poo. They've had over 7 years to come up with a plan with plenty of show votes to repeal along the way, and what did they propose but revised version of O-care and Trump was pushing the whole thing too.

I fear he is more interested in saying "hey look what I did, ain't I great" than he is in fighting for what is right.

The argument is "this is the best we could do because we don't have 60 votes in the senate to support what we really ought to do". I have an answer for that, get rid of every RINO and Democrat senator up for election in 2018 and replace them with a pit bull conservative.

I really think there is something else at work here though. We keep looking for political saviors. Now all the power in washington has an R in front of it's name and the system is just as lame and broken as it ever was.

What we need is repentance and hearts turned back towards the Lord starting with myself and the rest of the Church. Only God can give us these things, we cannot produce them on our own, and true prosperity, prosperity of the soul will not come until we as individuals who comprise a family, community, county, state, and nation, crucify, by His grace, our worship of self autonomy, comfort, ease, and pleasure.

It's NOT about jobs or the economy, it's about being rightly related to God Almighty from whom all blessing flows.

Re: Martha Roby [Re: Smells] #2070054
03/26/17 09:48 AM
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Trump handled the defeat of bill in presidential fashion.
I watched a good 5 minutes of his press conference that was on C-Span. It was very presidential. And I like the way he blamed the Dems for not casting a single vote for the bill despite all of them knowing it was much better then the ACA.

Then today I see this:

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/26/obamacare...or-failure.html


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...MvL8?li=BBnb7Kz


slap


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Re: Martha Roby [Re: Skinny] #2070060
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Trump attacked the Freedom Coalition yesterday for the bills failure. Thank God a few real conservatives are standing up and doing what they promised to do when elected. There is a segment that believe Trump is genius no matter what position he takes but it's becoming very clear he doesn't intend to be held accountable for his campaign promises. Even the appointments I thought were good , like Mattis, are turning out to be disastrous.

I know it got ignored here but for all the whining over Flynn's resignation he registered as a foreign agent with in a month of resigning. All of us who aren't part of the "Trump can do no wrong" cult, better hope the hand full of conservative representatives do their job and keep Trump in check.


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Re: Martha Roby [Re: bill] #2070066
03/26/17 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: bill
better hope the hand full of conservative representatives do their job and keep Trump in check.




indeed.
I think they will.

We are way way better off with Trump,
but he still has a lot of learning and growing up to do.


"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

Re: Martha Roby [Re: WmHunter] #2070071
03/26/17 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: WmHunter
Originally Posted By: bill
better hope the hand full of conservative representatives do their job and keep Trump in check.




indeed.
I think they will.

We are way way better off with Trump,
but he still has a lot of learning and growing up to do.


Better off for the moment. We will likely still get what we deserve for electing him. He said he'd make sure everyone was covered and it got ignored. HIs first week in office his spokesman told republican leaders that this was no longer the party of Reagan and it got ignored. Lots of people giving him a pass just because he isn't Obama or Hillary. We'll never do better when we keep settling.

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Re: Martha Roby [Re: bill] #2070083
03/26/17 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By: bill
Trump attacked the Freedom Coalition yesterday for the bills failure. Thank God a few real conservatives are standing up and doing what they promised to do when elected. There is a segment that believe Trump is genius no matter what position he takes but it's becoming very clear he doesn't intend to be held accountable for his campaign promises. Even the appointments I thought were good , like Mattis, are turning out to be disastrous.

I know it got ignored here but for all the whining over Flynn's resignation he registered as a foreign agent with in a month of resigning. All of us who aren't part of the "Trump can do no wrong" cult, better hope the hand full of conservative representatives do their job and keep Trump in check.


Well said


It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
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