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Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Deadwood] #2068484
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The bill is garbage and needs to disappear. I'm not really happy with Trump over this either....missing a real opportunity to fix the Obamacare mess.....but no. He is not handling this well at all!!!!!

Ryan, well y'all already know he is worthless.

The whole Repeal and Replace is a smokescreen. How about a full repeal. Then separately fix some of the insurance issues that need to be fixed. Then if there are groups of people without adequate medical care or ways to pay for their care....do something for them to get better access and help out on costs if possible---BUT leave the rest of us alone!


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Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Young20] #2068488
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Originally Posted By: Young20
I've been following this closely and what hasn't been promoted in the news is that President Trump has said on a number of occasions that they should delay this and let Obamacare fail. Then the Dems will own it and Republicans can pass what needs to be done.


Huh? Trump said he would actively campaign against any Republican who didn't vote for this bill. Ryan might have authored it but this is the bill Trump wants. Otherwise, he wouldn't be putting so much pressure on guys like Rand who oppose it.


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Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Deadwood] #2068492
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Full and complete privatization is the only thing I support. I don't need a Government minder with me in my Physician's office. I'm almost to the point that I'm ready for this entire government in it's present form to fail. This is NOT what the framers of the Constitution had in mind at all.



Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Deadwood] #2068527
03/24/17 12:36 PM
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Dang right Deadwood. Nowhere in the Constitution does it give the federal government authority over healthcare. The GOP still has a chance to do right and repeal and deregulate the insurance markets, but I doubt they do anything close to that.

Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Deadwood] #2068545
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Today demoncrats and dirty stinking Rino's made more money than they will ever spend in their life time ,,so much money in fact that their future family generations will live an extravagant life style till the end of time. George Soros must be laughing his ass off.

I believe Trump did all he could do and now we must sit and watch the ACA die a horrible death ,, maybe then we can get a health care law passed that truly will be good for all the people...

What else could Trump have done ?????

Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Deadwood] #2068553
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You're right Mike. The President doesn't write bills. He trusted Ryan to do what was best for Americans. I do disagree with him not asking Ryan to step down as Speaker. Ryan like McCain is still butthurt over his failed Presidental bid. Trump accepted the blame, good man. Sooner or later Ryan has to go. I think Trump knows it and is trying not to alert the rhinos of his plans to pull the plug on the swamp.


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Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: perchjerker] #2068557
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Originally Posted By: perchjerker
You're right Mike. The President doesn't write bills. He trusted Ryan to do what was best for Americans. I do disagree with him not asking Ryan to step down as Speaker. Ryan like McCain is still butthurt over his failed Presidental bid. Trump accepted the blame, good man. Sooner or later Ryan has to go. I think Trump knows it and is trying not to alert the rhinos of his plans to pull the plug on the swamp.


Man, I hope your read on this is right, Perch, so far as the deflation of the RINO party.



Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Deadwood] #2068562
03/24/17 01:19 PM
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I voted for Trump because I like what he said, I like him. I dont see the healthcare bill as a big deal. Let Obamacare explode. We dont need socialized medicine of ANY kind. I'm tired of paying for other peoples needs. I think they played it well actually.

Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Stob] #2068575
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Originally Posted By: Stob
I voted for Trump because I like what he said, I like him. I dont see the healthcare bill as a big deal. Let Obamacare explode. We dont need socialized medicine of ANY kind. I'm tired of paying for other peoples needs. I think they played it well actually.


Who played it well, the ones pushing it or the few Conservatives that are against it? The healthcare bill is a big deal to me. It doesn't have to be fixed today, but I don't think waiting for Obamacare to implode is the answer. That could be a few more years of ever rising costs for those of us that have to pay for it


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Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Deadwood] #2068577
03/24/17 01:39 PM
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I voted against Hillary and RINO's too.


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Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Deadwood] #2068579
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I’m tired of hearing Trump talk 10 lbs of bullchit everytime he gets on a hot mike…BUT…..I think he did this on purpose so that the extreme right would have every free reign opportunity they wanted to repeal Obamacare knowing that it would fail. Now he’s gonna come back with a more middle of the road approach to simply fixing the bad things about Obamacare that will include the Democrats. The extreme right will not be able to say anything at this point because he’ll say “Y’all had your chance, now we’re gonna play the hand that will have the votes.” I’ve been thinking that in the back on my mind and then sure enough when he spoke today the first thing he started doing after his initial “posturing” was to start hinting around at eventually passing something that included both sides. That’s where were headed I believe…..middle of the road fixes. They need to do something. They jacked it up for us folks in the middle. Our healthcare has went WAY up over the last few years.

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Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Stob] #2068590
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Originally Posted By: Stob
I voted for Trump because I like what he said, I like him. I dont see the healthcare bill as a big deal. Let Obamacare explode. We dont need socialized medicine of ANY kind. I'm tired of paying for other peoples needs. I think they played it well actually.


Well, I agree except the fact that we WILL end up with a single-payer, government run and controlled health system. You will pay your full premiums to Uncle Sam, not just a penalty, as surely as you pay taxes to the IRS. The government will always step in to save us sheep from ourselves, you know.

A doubling of the taxes you pay, compliments of Chief Justice John Roberts and the crooked congress of both parties.

Little by little we have gone from one income supporting an entire family easily to two incomes that wouldn't cover the essential household bills, then 30 year mortgages, now two taxes per earner.

Privatization or nothing for me, thanks.



Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: foldemup] #2068603
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Originally Posted By: foldemup
Originally Posted By: Stob
I voted for Trump because I like what he said, I like him. I dont see the healthcare bill as a big deal. Let Obamacare explode. We dont need socialized medicine of ANY kind. I'm tired of paying for other peoples needs. I think they played it well actually.


Who played it well, the ones pushing it or the few Conservatives that are against it? The healthcare bill is a big deal to me. It doesn't have to be fixed today, but I don't think waiting for Obamacare to implode is the answer. That could be a few more years of ever rising costs for those of us that have to pay for it


What did we have before Obamacare?

Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Deadwood] #2068609
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Choices made by you for your coverage as a working man and emergency rooms full of blacks for sore throats with no intention of ever paying a nickel and breeding like roaches on Medicaid.



Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Stob] #2068610
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Originally Posted By: Stob


What did we have before Obamacare?


Wasn't our original problem the "Baby Boom" generation approaching senior citizen age and us not having enough working class people paying the taxes for them to be covered under Medicaid or SS?


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Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Deadwood] #2068640
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Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: Stob] #2068661
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Originally Posted By: Stob
Originally Posted By: foldemup
Originally Posted By: Stob
I voted for Trump because I like what he said, I like him. I dont see the healthcare bill as a big deal. Let Obamacare explode. We dont need socialized medicine of ANY kind. I'm tired of paying for other peoples needs. I think they played it well actually.


Who played it well, the ones pushing it or the few Conservatives that are against it? The healthcare bill is a big deal to me. It doesn't have to be fixed today, but I don't think waiting for Obamacare to implode is the answer. That could be a few more years of ever rising costs for those of us that have to pay for it


What did we have before Obamacare?


I don't know what you had, but I had health insurance that was about 1/3 what I pay now. And I work for a freaking hospital. And since my wife has a job and her employer provides a crappy healthcare plan, my employer has kicked off spouses from our plan if they have a job. They also increased my premiums more than others based on my income. I'm fortunate that we can afford our healthcare, but I'd rather be putting $1200/month towards something else. I just feel like these clowns should have already had an agreeable plan to fix our healthcare regardless rather it was Trump or any of the other Republican candidates. I surely don't have all the answers, but I would trust whatever those conservatives like Rand Paul suggests before I would those ass wipes like Paul Ryan and his crew.

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Re: The "Repeal And Replace" Healthcare Bill... [Re: BhamFred] #2068679
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
repeal the damn obamacare

do not replace it.


THIS^^^. The Republican puzzies in Congress once again showed they do not have the balls to do what needs to be done. Everyone trying to get their own agenda addressed in the bill and it ends up being a worthless piece of garbage that nobody wants. SSDD in the DC.


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