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Teachers and Students #2068044
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Have been watching several different news outlets this morning and they all have a different story of a teacher involved sexually with a student.
What is wrong with these teachers nowadays???
This was something unheard of back in the 70's and 80's
I do not remember any teacher doing anything remotely close to this and now its almost a common occurrence.
What would you do if you found that a teacher was having contact like this with one of your children?


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Re: Teachers and Students [Re: deadeye48] #2068047
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I wonder how many high school boys can keep their mouths shut and get away with it

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I know of three teachers in my high school, in Mississippi, who slept with students. I graduated in 77. I think it's just more exposed due to social media.

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Re: Teachers and Students [Re: deadeye48] #2068051
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This is nothing new....


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Re: Teachers and Students [Re: deadeye48] #2068053
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86 grad and it was going on then. Wasn't me, but it was going on. That's all i'll say.


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I have known of a few cases back in the 80's when I was in school. I think with 24 hour news it's just more available to be reported.


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Re: Teachers and Students [Re: deadeye48] #2068058
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You just didn't hear about it in the 70s 80s because "most" folks kept they're mouths shut & not having Facebook, Twitter, cellphones helped


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Re: Teachers and Students [Re: deadeye48] #2068059
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This is nothing new. I know several people that had "relationships" with teachers in high school. Male and female. That was in the later 1980s.

It has always gone on. The reason you see more on the news now is the same reason you see more children kidnapped on the news, even though kidnappings are half what they where in the 1970s. The news needs content and good headlines. Why the hell we need to hear on our local news that a train hit a car in bumf**k china is beyond me.

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Originally Posted By: Bustinbeards
This is nothing new....


^

these days it's posted on FB the following day if not FB live during the event, goes viral, the parents find out in a couple of days and the teacher is charged the following week.

it was locker room talk back in the day with unsubstantiated evidence and guys calling BS on one another


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I remember one case when I was a freshman at Pinson Valley High back in 1983.


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Re: Teachers and Students [Re: deadeye48] #2068083
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The teachers I had I wouldn't have touched with a 10' pole!!!

I will say that if I had had some good looking teachers I would have never said a word about it if I got the chance to tag one...



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I just don't think a 27 year old lady getting with a 17/18 year old boy is a big deal. And I do think the reverse is worse.

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There were a couple i wish i could have got ahold of. We had one that would have slept with a buddy but he was too dumb to see it.


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Re: Teachers and Students [Re: deadeye48] #2068090
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It seems more prevalent now although it may be just that the reporting is more robust. Just looking at the female teachers involved, I can't for the life of me understand why these beautiful, married women with children find the need to have sexual relations with teen boys?


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Re: Teachers and Students [Re: Shaw] #2068096
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Originally Posted By: Shaw
I remember one case when I was a freshman at Pinson Valley High back in 1983.


The coach that taught health. I forget his name.


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Originally Posted By: MarksOutdoors
It seems more prevalent now although it may be just that the reporting is more robust. Just looking at the female teachers involved, I can't for the life of me understand why these beautiful, married women with children find the need to have sexual relations with teen boys?


It's pretty simple.
People want what they can't have or is illegal.

Re: Teachers and Students [Re: deadeye48] #2068099
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There's some teachers that are worth the risk

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Originally Posted By: ColeT
There's some teachers that are worth the risk


And if everyone keeps their mouth shut............ wink


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Originally Posted By: ColeT
There's some teachers that are worth the risk


No real risk to a male student really
Excluding pissed off husband if it applies.

Re: Teachers and Students [Re: deadeye48] #2068110
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It's always gone one. Just talked about more outside the locker room than it used to. I also think you are seeing more younger teachers in high schools than you used to. Seems they used to start off teacher younger kids and moved into high school as they aged. I'm not so sure that's not a bad idea myself. (of course my daughter is graduating in 2 months to be a elementary teacher)


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you have to wonder what in hail they are thinking. Do any of them think a high school boy is going to keep his mouth shut about banging his teacher????? Idiots.


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Originally Posted By: Remington270
I just don't think a 27 year old lady getting with a 17/18 year old boy is a big deal. And I do think the reverse is worse.


Why?


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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
you have to wonder what in hail they are thinking. Do any of them think a high school boy is going to keep his mouth shut about banging his teacher????? Idiots.


as fine as some of these women teachers are, it would be hard to keep secret!! LOL

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Been happening ever since there's been schools and students.



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I just don't think a 27 year old lady getting with a 17/18 year old boy is a big deal. And I do think the reverse is worse.


Why?


Because men are physically bigger and more intimidating. It's a double standard that I think is justified. The big question is whether something is actually consensual. I don't have a dog in this fight.

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I know some teachers who are now married to former students. For most part, they've been married for years and they're happy. Certainly not saying that to justify it. I'm just saying.
And I don't think they were 50 and 14. A good deal closer in age.

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nothing new under the sun. i know of a case from 1971. coach ended up marrying one of his girl basketball players. schools boards used to get away with hiding this kind of thing. not any more. it is an abuse of authority issue, no matter the gender of the teacher/student, as well as sexual abuse issue. teen-age boys are stupid (thinking with the little head, if thinking at all) and easily duped by women. some of you guys can exercise your fantasies all you want, but this is abuse, PARTICULARLY for the younger boys.


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Originally Posted By: Remington270
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I just don't think a 27 year old lady getting with a 17/18 year old boy is a big deal. And I do think the reverse is worse.


Why?


Because men are physically bigger and more intimidating. It's a double standard that I think is justified. The big question is whether something is actually consensual. I don't have a dog in this fight.


I don't see any difference in a male student and female student. I also think it is a joke of a law and is unconstitutional for a teacher to be charged with a crime for doing something that any other person walking down the street can do with impunity.

In Alabama if a person is 16, they can legally have consensual sex with any person in the world except a teacher. It doesn't even have to be a teacher in their school. A teacher legally, can not have sex with someone until they are 19. This in my opinion is going to end up in front of the supreme court. This is a violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. You can not treat one group of people different than the rest of the population. Doctors, lawyers, police officers, judge's legislatures, dentist, truck drivers, garbage men, even the governor can legally have sex with any person over the age of 16. But, get a teaching job and all the sudden, the age of consent becomes 19.

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Yep. That law is stupid and will not stand up to a challenge.

I agree - I see no difference in male and female students either. Most of the world has no age of consent or it's much lower than ours. I want to say the average was 14 the last time I looked.

I'm not attracted to really young women (or boys) but I was very attracted to older women at the age of about 11. It took me 3 years to talk any of them into it though. I kept my mouth shut and no one was the wiser.


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This was something unheard of back in the 70's and 80's
I do not remember any teacher doing anything remotely close to this and now its almost a common occurrence.


If you believe this was unheard of, you're living in another world. It went on but either was handled outside the purview of the public - daddy beat that ass or the principal moved the teacher around, like Boy Scout pedophile leaders and Catholic priest pedophiles being moved around - or people didn't learn about it.

I had a friend who was screwing a teacher's wife when we were in school. I knew of another teacher who was, in today's kids' parlance, a creeper. Just too weird, and he eventually got in trouble.

That was in the early 80s. This kind of stuff has been going on a long time. Cable news and social media just make it more publicly known now.


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I graduated from High School in 1971. It was happening then and several years prior.

Social media, cell phones and cameras everywhere.


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It's been going on in school since school began.News travels so fast now that we hear about it instantly.It blows my mind how a teacher is willing to risk his/her career and lifestyle over a HS fling.CRAZY

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Originally Posted By: Bustinbeards
This is nothing new....


Graduated in '78 and it was going on where I went to school.

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I never said it didn't happen I said it was unheard of because we just never heard much if anything about this.
Obviously boys will exaggerate/Lie in the locker room and field house.
I can definitely say I never had a thought like this about any teacher. Heck my teacher in the 8th & 9th grade taught my Dad when he was in the 7th grade and he said she was old then


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This was something unheard of back in the 70's and 80's
I do not remember any teacher doing anything remotely close to this and now its almost a common occurrence.


If you believe this was unheard of, you're living in another world. It went on but either was handled outside the purview of the public - daddy beat that ass or the principal moved the teacher around, like Boy Scout pedophile leaders and Catholic priest pedophiles being moved around - or people didn't learn about it.

I had a friend who was screwing a teacher's wife when we were in school. I knew of another teacher who was, in today's kids' parlance, a creeper. Just too weird, and he eventually got in trouble.

That was in the early 80s. This kind of stuff has been going on a long time. Cable news and social media just make it more publicly known now.


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I just don't think a 27 year old lady getting with a 17/18 year old boy is a big deal. And I do think the reverse is worse.


Why?


Because men are physically bigger and more intimidating. It's a double standard that I think is justified. The big question is whether something is actually consensual. I don't have a dog in this fight.


I don't see any difference in a male student and female student. I also think it is a joke of a law and is unconstitutional for a teacher to be charged with a crime for doing something that any other person walking down the street can do with impunity.

In Alabama if a person is 16, they can legally have consensual sex with any person in the world except a teacher. It doesn't even have to be a teacher in their school. A teacher legally, can not have sex with someone until they are 19. This in my opinion is going to end up in front of the supreme court. This is a violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. You can not treat one group of people different than the rest of the population. Doctors, lawyers, police officers, judge's legislatures, dentist, truck drivers, garbage men, even the governor can legally have sex with any person over the age of 16. But, get a teaching job and all the sudden, the age of consent becomes 19.


I disagree.

There are strict rules on physician patient interaction. And they are completely justified. A doctor, just like a teacher, holds a place of power in the other person's life, and there may not be such a thing as true consent.
I'm sure it's true in the military too. I doubt a 5 star general can just go around slaying female privates (no pun intended).

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General's and privates? Really that's what you come back with? Doctors and patients?

Those are not illegal. Repeat, not illegal. They may be against the military code of what ever, but it isn't a felony criminal sex crime. Same with doctors, they don't get a felony sex charge for screwing a patient.

I am not saying there shouldn't be employment consequences for teachers. Loosing your job, I understand and agree with, but not a felony sex crime that requires lifetime registration as a sex offender.

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I had a teacher in high school that was 26 years old dating a 17 year old student. They got married in 1988 and are still married.

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It's been going on a very long time. I remember a male teacher messing around with the girls in high school. Nobody popped their gums like they do now. No social media or camera phones. I remember wondering how in the heck he got away with it.

There was a teacher that hounded me about coming to her home to help her with some artwork. I mean hounded. It never occurred to me what she might have been after at the time. In retrospect..


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One other thing not mentioned - teaching used to be a much more desirable profession than it is now. Now the only kids who major in education are those who feel a calling to it, and those who figure they can't likely do anything else. That 2nd group is the one we hear about on such issues. It's gonna get worse.

And going way back, my father started as an Ag teacher in 1951. He had already been in the service and was 24. My mother was a Sr in hs. She didn't have classes under him, but he was a teacher and she was a student. He got permission from the principal to date her, and they got married the summer after she graduated.

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Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: doekiller
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I just don't think a 27 year old lady getting with a 17/18 year old boy is a big deal. And I do think the reverse is worse.


Why?


Because men are physically bigger and more intimidating. It's a double standard that I think is justified. The big question is whether something is actually consensual. I don't have a dog in this fight.


I don't see any difference in a male student and female student. I also think it is a joke of a law and is unconstitutional for a teacher to be charged with a crime for doing something that any other person walking down the street can do with impunity.

In Alabama if a person is 16, they can legally have consensual sex with any person in the world except a teacher. It doesn't even have to be a teacher in their school. A teacher legally, can not have sex with someone until they are 19. This in my opinion is going to end up in front of the supreme court. This is a violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. You can not treat one group of people different than the rest of the population. Doctors, lawyers, police officers, judge's legislatures, dentist, truck drivers, garbage men, even the governor can legally have sex with any person over the age of 16. But, get a teaching job and all the sudden, the age of consent becomes 19.


I disagree.

There are strict rules on physician patient interaction. And they are completely justified. A doctor, just like a teacher, holds a place of power in the other person's life, and there may not be such a thing as true consent.
I'm sure it's true in the military too. I doubt a 5 star general can just go around slaying female privates (no pun intended).


A doctor holds a place of power over their patients? You guys must have a whole different type of medical service over there. Or the doctors think a whole lot more of themselves than they should.


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Obviously boys will exaggerate/Lie in the locker room and field house.


That wasn't the case for us in the early 80's. We where a tight group that were truthful. We participated in organized sports together until our 30's. But we didn't have to take their word for it. We would drop the student off with the teacher and pick them back up at a given time. We knew without it having been told. So we didn't speak of it. I have seen, heard, and done things that wouldn't be believed except by the ones who have known me. Some I can't believe myself and I was there. So its not spoken of. But that was a different time, a different life, and I'm now a different person.

May be just me but at an early age, say 15, we seemed more mature and more responsible than the same age kids today. Maybe because we were rural, farming oriented. At 15 then if you couldn't change the oil in a tractor or the spindles in a cotton picker you were an idiot.

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Originally Posted By: Skullworks
Originally Posted By: Remington270
I just don't think a 27 year old lady getting with a 17/18 year old boy is a big deal. And I do think the reverse is worse.


Why?


Because men are physically bigger and more intimidating. It's a double standard that I think is justified. The big question is whether something is actually consensual. I don't have a dog in this fight.


I don't see any difference in a male student and female student. I also think it is a joke of a law and is unconstitutional for a teacher to be charged with a crime for doing something that any other person walking down the street can do with impunity.

In Alabama if a person is 16, they can legally have consensual sex with any person in the world except a teacher. It doesn't even have to be a teacher in their school. A teacher legally, can not have sex with someone until they are 19. This in my opinion is going to end up in front of the supreme court. This is a violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. You can not treat one group of people different than the rest of the population. Doctors, lawyers, police officers, judge's legislatures, dentist, truck drivers, garbage men, even the governor can legally have sex with any person over the age of 16. But, get a teaching job and all the sudden, the age of consent becomes 19.


I disagree.

There are strict rules on physician patient interaction. And they are completely justified. A doctor, just like a teacher, holds a place of power in the other person's life, and there may not be such a thing as true consent.
I'm sure it's true in the military too. I doubt a 5 star general can just go around slaying female privates (no pun intended).


A doctor holds a place of power over their patients? You guys must have a whole different type of medical service over there. Or the doctors think a whole lot more of themselves than they should.


Lawyers, teachers, cops all hold a position of power over. That's not even disputable. That's the type stuff that's in textbooks it's so well accepted.

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I know at 16 all I wanted to do was chase women and drink beer. I went to school to have fun and pick up chicks. Some of the teachers I had were very hot and I would have jumped at the chance to sleep with one. I don't see how they are calling it sexually abusing when just about every 16 yr old is wanting it

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It was going on when I was in high school. One of my buddies sister was dating a coach at another school and I know of another one of two possibly.

My junior year, I believe it was, we had a fill in teacher, Ms. Johnson, for the yr. She had just graduated college at Jacksonville st. maybe a year early and had went to high school a few miles up the rd at another high school. She was a straight up smoke show. I partied with her quite a few times that yr on the weekends. It was odd seeing her at the first party but turned into a weekend thing. I would of jumped on the opportunity for sure if she sent me to after school detention or broke out the paddle grin

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or broke out the paddle grin


Yipes!!!
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One of my teachers, probably 30 dated one of my buddies sisters in HS who played basketball. Soon as she graduated they got married. That was in 98 or 99. Everyone knew about it.


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We had a police luetenant get shot by his 17yr old daughter In the late '70s. Then two coaches left town real quick the next year after some talk started going around about a couple coeds.


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Nothing new. There's not much age difference in some of the teachers and the students. Same thing with college students and instructors.

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Well we've figured out its been going on for a long time and we've had some people who said they would've participated given the chance. There seems to be some who sees nothing wrong with it.

Now what we haven't heard is if it were your child involved with a teacher how would you react?


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I personally see a LOT wrong with it. It is illegal and with good reason.


Sure I had teachers that were hot, and prolly would of jumped at the chance BUT the dang teacher should use better judgement...and go to jail if they couldn't.


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Technology sure makes it easier to get caught and prosecuted these days. In the old days folks could just deny it unless they were caught in the act.


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In the late 80's where I went to HS there was a very attractive science teacher that had dated, married, & had a kid with one of her students.


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never understood why an attractive 27 year old woman is attracted to a 17 year old BOY.


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teens side chick teacher looking at a positive pregnancy test strip "be like I got him now"

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I've never said it was right or that the teacher shouldn't be fired and barred from teaching. But, no reason for them to go to prison.

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so you would decriminalize it???


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Put the women in men prisons for 6 months. That should curve her urge. grin

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The teachers I had I wouldn't have touched with a 10' pole!!!


Ain't that the truth. Just the thought of sex with any of the teachers I had in high school makes me feel kind of nauseated.


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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
so you would decriminalize it???


I'm not trying to speak for doekiller. He knows the law and I do not. If his earlier post is accurate, a 16 year old in Alabama can have sex with anyone they want, except a teacher. So a 16-17 year old kid can sleep with a cop and no crime has been committed, but sleep with a teacher and jail time is warranted, even if the teacher worked at a different school. That's effed up.

Now I fully understand school policies on prohibiting those relationships. I'm not advocating that we make easy for teachers to prey on students. But when we're holding them to a significantly higher standards than police officers and others individuals, that's messed up.


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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
so you would decriminalize it???


Yes. No reason the teachers should be held to a higher legal standard than anyone else. It is a violation of their equal protection rights.

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Ya'll watch too much news. Keep in mind these incidents are still rare and are only known about cause of the tv. They were never reported on before there were more than 4 channels on the tv.


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Do you guys know this applies to college employees too? It don't have to be a teacher. If you are a school employee, you are covered under the act if the sex partner is under 19.

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Originally Posted By: Skinny
Ya'll watch too much news. Keep in mind these incidents are still rare and are only known about cause of the tv. They were never reported on before there were more than 4 channels on the tv.


So if it's not reported it didn't happen? Alrighty then..

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Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
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so you would decriminalize it???


I'm not trying to speak for doekiller. He knows the law and I do not. If his earlier post is accurate, a 16 year old in Alabama can have sex with anyone they want, except a teacher. So a 16-17 year old kid can sleep with a cop and no crime has been committed, but sleep with a teacher and jail time is warranted, even if the teacher worked at a different school. That's effed up.

Now I fully understand school policies on prohibiting those relationships. I'm not advocating that we make easy for teachers to prey on students. But when we're holding them to a significantly higher standards than police officers and others individuals, that's messed up.
Don't know the law either but I remember a Mobile city cop slept with a student and he resigned and wasn't charged with a crime. Remember a Dothan cop was sentenced to prison for having sex with a 17 teen year old, don't know/understand what the differences were? Here's the two stories. (Apologize could only find on Al.com)

https://www.google.com/amp/www.al.com/articles/4323328/former_mobile_police_officer_w.amp

http://www.dothaneagle.com/news/crime_co...17a43b2370.html



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Doekiller with all due respect are you saying it'd be ok even if it were happening with your child???



Originally Posted By: doekiller
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
so you would decriminalize it???


Yes. No reason the teachers should be held to a higher legal standard than anyone else. It is a violation of their equal protection rights.


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as to your silly cop scenario, any cop caught doing that would be throw under the bus. cops get sent to prison for trading sex for tearing up tickets - no matter the age of the victim. it's an abuse of AUTHORITY.


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James, the Dothan officer worked at the school, had an office there. The Mobile officer had no tie to the school, except for having sex with a consenting 16 year old. It was legal under the law, but that dosen't make it ethical or morally right in the eyes of his employer or the community.


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Originally Posted By: doekiller
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so you would decriminalize it???


Yes. No reason the teachers should be held to a higher legal standard than anyone else. It is a violation of their equal protection rights.


Yup, its a basic "abuse of power" situation. Same as Bill Clinton taking advantage of an intern.


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Originally Posted By: deadeye48
Doekiller with all due respect are you saying it'd be ok even if it were happening with your child???


C'mon man. Did you read anywhere that he said he was okay with it? What he did say is that teachers are treated differently than every other member of society. THAT'S what he would opt to change.


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Re: Teachers and Students [Re: paulfish4570] #2069951
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Originally Posted By: paulfish4570
as to your silly cop scenario, any cop caught doing that would be throw under the bus. cops get sent to prison for trading sex for tearing up tickets - no matter the age of the victim. it's an abuse of AUTHORITY.


There's a big difference in getting "thrown under the bus" and having to register as a sex offender the rest of your life. I'd take the bus for sure. There's nothing silly about it.


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Re: Teachers and Students [Re: BhamFred] #2069971
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
James, the Dothan officer worked at the school, had an office there. The Mobile officer had no tie to the school, except for having sex with a consenting 16 year old. It was legal under the law, but that dosen't make it ethical or morally right in the eyes of his employer or the community.
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Re: Teachers and Students [Re: Yelp softly] #2069977
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No I didn't read that he anything like that but the way things have been said it sounds like it may be a ok thing to do and nothing more than some teacher losing their job is all that should happen.
So this guy/teacher 50 years old in Tennessee that has run off with a 15 year old is ok... I'm sure the little girl thinks she knows what she's doing but this is absolutely wrong and yes I understand she's 15.
We send our children to school to be educated not to be preyed upon by any teacher no matter the age difference between them


Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
Originally Posted By: deadeye48
Doekiller with all due respect are you saying it'd be ok even if it were happening with your child???


C'mon man. Did you read anywhere that he said he was okay with it? What he did say is that teachers are treated differently than every other member of society. THAT'S what he would opt to change.

Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
Originally Posted By: deadeye48
Doekiller with all due respect are you saying it'd be ok even if it were happening with your child???


C'mon man. Did you read anywhere that he said he was okay with it? What he did say is that teachers are treated differently than every other member of society. THAT'S what he would opt to change.


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Re: Teachers and Students [Re: deadeye48] #2069997
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Please explain to me how it is perfectly legal for me, you or any other adult non-teacher to screw a 16 year old, but it is a felony for a school employee to do so regardless if they even work at the same school as the 16 year old?

I am not condoning the act, not excusing the act, and not saying there shouldn't be consequences. No, I don't want my child being involved in something like that. But, it is simply unconstitutional to hold one group of people to a different legal
standard than the rest of the world.

Please explain how a teacher screwing a 18 year old is somehow worse than you doing it.

Re: Teachers and Students [Re: deadeye48] #2070003
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I agree with you on the fact of making separate laws for people but I don't agree that an educator should just lose their job and for that fact anyone who'd prey on a child/teen should be punished..
I know I had no sense of direction when I was 16-17 YO and at 18 I made the decision to join the army and even there there were rules about who you could fraternize with and consequences if you disobeyed those rules


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Re: Teachers and Students [Re: deadeye48] #2070039
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Originally Posted By: deadeye48
I agree with you on the fact of making separate laws for people but I don't agree that an educator should just lose their job and for that fact anyone who'd prey on a child/teen should be punished..
I know I had no sense of direction when I was 16-17 YO and at 18 I made the decision to join the army and even there there were rules about who you could fraternize with and consequences if you disobeyed those rules


16 and 17 year olds are not Children and the student isn't always the prey

Re: Teachers and Students [Re: deadeye48] #2070051
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Theres no doubt that teenagers cant be manipulative but the adult needs to be an adult because all the responsibility of what happens fall on them as well as the consequences


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