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Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: muddybucks] #2065116
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Why is everybody assuming that corn is the only thing that will be fed. If I put out feed/bait it will be in a covered trough and will be a mixture of peanuts, Record Rack, corn, sweet feed and other nutritious food for deer. Shelled corn might be as much as 20% of the mixture.

Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: muddybucks] #2065202
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Florida has been baiting deer for 30 or so years.Corn, Sweet potatoes and salt blocks. You would think that if there was a health problem with the herd, we would know by now. I wonder what percent of hunters in Ala already put out bait. Just about everyone I talk to does. Will that number grow that much more if this passes. I would guess some.


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Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: jacannon] #2065331
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Originally Posted By: jacannon
Florida has been baiting deer for 30 or so years.Corn, Sweet potatoes and salt blocks. You would think that if there was a health problem with the herd, we would know by now. I wonder what percent of hunters in Ala already put out bait. Just about everyone I talk to does. Will that number grow that much more if this passes. I would guess some.


Texas too. Kansas, Wisconsin, Ohio..I could go on.

Heck, I hunted in Texas this year and I had a feeder within line of sight and shootable every dang hunt.
A couple times 2 feeders! But they were also along food plots, gas lines that were planted...and it was no cake walk believe me.

I saw lots of does, hogs , turkeys and young bucks. It wasnt until my 5th day (into a 3 day dang hunt) that I finally saw a shooter. He was with 2 younger bucks (100-120') chasing a hot young doe, 2nd rut.

He wanted NO PART of either of the 2 feeders, and I had to get out and scramble 300 yards along that gas line food plot to get him. And if the 2 younger bucks HAD NOT chased that doe ACROSS the gas line,..making him follow..I never would have got him. He would stay way back in the mesquite thicket from those feeders , I assure you.

He was the First mature buck I saw in 5 days hunting feeders mornings and afternoons, then still hunting/rattling all mid day, and during the 2 nd rut, which is when I love to kill mature bucks in any state..(less does in estrous).

Feeders are definitely are no silver bullet. I dont even get many day time pictures here in bama on them of mature deer either in the 2 spots we feed them at.

Ive hunted feed in a ton of states and filmed deer on it in Canada. The RUT and 2nd rut is when you kill big uns...and only then do I find feeders even remotely helpful...and only as the bucks will come out or cruise them for does. The real big uns seem to hang back in the thicket to me.

Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: muddybucks] #2065349
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Deer won't stand and fill their stomach to the brim at a feeder. They ALWAYS have other natural food they eat, so I find the rumen ph shift and starvation to be unmitigated horsechitt.

Same with disease...what disease exactly are they spreading????


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Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: muddybucks] #2065445
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Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: jacannon] #2065543
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Originally Posted By: jacannon
Florida has been baiting deer for 30 or so years.Corn, Sweet potatoes and salt blocks. You would think that if there was a health problem with the herd, we would know by now. I wonder what percent of hunters in Ala already put out bait. Just about everyone I talk to does. Will that number grow that much more if this passes. I would guess some.

The number may grow a little, but not much if I were betting.

Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: jacannon] #2065642
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Originally Posted By: jacannon
I wonder what percent of hunters in Ala already put out bait. Just about everyone I talk to does. Will that number grow that much more if this passes. I would guess some.


Sad that there is that many watercooler ego poachers in Alabama!


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Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: BhamFred] #2069241
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
not going to argue th ethics of hunting over corn but do you really believe that corn is no more beneficial to deer than , say, cardboard??? NO protein, no carbs, nothing???


No, I would certainly not say that there are absolutely no nutritional benefits to corn feeding to deer, but it is more like feeding sugary cakes vs. something else like protein pellets or planting food plots including Summer plots.


And one thing is for certain: corn does nothing for a buck's antlers, and for me antler growth is the only reason to do supplemental feeding, and for me that means Fall/Winter plots that provide quality forage through June, Summer food plots, timber thinning and burning and mineral licks.

I think it is fair to say that most people use corn feeders to try to train deer to go to a certain area for hunting purposes and not to actually help the deers nutrition. I think the nutrition argument for corn feeding is silly nonsense and just subterfuge for what is really the purpose: train deer to go to a certain area for hunting.

Respectfully! ~~


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Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: WmHunter] #2069280
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I have had a camera on a feeder since last November. Thousands of pics and NOT ONE Buck on camera. Scrapes and rubs all around the feeder. It's as if the feeder was some kind of alien space ship or something, avoided it like the plague.

Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: muddybucks] #2070712
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yall do know that if baiting becomes legal, Its not gonna be illegal if you dont bait, right?


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Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: muddybucks] #2070717
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So where does this thing stand right now??

Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: lefthorn] #2070974
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Shot down in flames.

Its game over.

No corn baiting for Bubba. grin


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Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: WmHunter] #2071010
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Originally Posted By: WmHunter
Shot down in flames.

Its game over.

No corn baiting for Bubba. grin


Where did you see this?

Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: WmHunter] #2071014
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Originally Posted By: WmHunter
Shot down in flames.

Its game over.

No corn baiting for Bubba. grin


what makes you think Bubba is going to stop corn baiting now?

Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: muddybucks] #2071897
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According to an article in AON Mag the inside info is that just like last year the bill will die in the Senate without a vote, just like last year.

Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: loprofile] #2072140
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Originally Posted By: loprofile
According to an article in AON Mag the inside info is that just like last year the bill will die in the Senate without a vote, just like last year.


There will be wailing and weeping and gnashing
of teeth across the land of Bubba grin


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Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: WmHunter] #2072170
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Originally Posted By: WmHunter
Originally Posted By: loprofile
According to an article in AON Mag the inside info is that just like last year the bill will die in the Senate without a vote, just like last year.


There will be wailing and weeping and gnashing
of teeth across the land of Bubba grin


Are you Chuck Sykes with the Bubba jokes?

Because he, like yourself, realizes that only poor Redneck's Bait. The wealthy all supplemental feed!

Re: any one hear anything about Senate reviewing the baiting bill being to day [Re: Hogwild] #2072269
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Originally Posted By: Hogwild
Originally Posted By: WmHunter
Originally Posted By: loprofile
According to an article in AON Mag the inside info is that just like last year the bill will die in the Senate without a vote, just like last year.


There will be wailing and weeping and gnashing
of teeth across the land of Bubba grin


Are you Chuck Sykes with the Bubba jokes?

Because he, like yourself, realizes that only poor Redneck's Bait. The wealthy all supplemental feed!


touché! grin

or was that the faint sound of
weeping and gnashing of teeth? grin


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" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

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Originally Posted By: WmHunter
Originally Posted By: Hogwild
Originally Posted By: WmHunter
Originally Posted By: loprofile
According to an article in AON Mag the inside info is that just like last year the bill will die in the Senate without a vote, just like last year.


There will be wailing and weeping and gnashing
of teeth across the land of Bubba grin


Are you Chuck Sykes with the Bubba jokes?

Because he, like yourself, realizes that only poor Redneck's Bait. The wealthy all supplemental feed!


touché! grin

or was that the faint sound of
weeping and gnashing of teeth? grin


Only effect it would have on me would be moving feeders a few feet.
So, no gnashing & wailing here! smile

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Originally Posted By: Hogwild
Originally Posted By: WmHunter
Originally Posted By: loprofile
According to an article in AON Mag the inside info is that just like last year the bill will die in the Senate without a vote, just like last year.


There will be wailing and weeping and gnashing
of teeth across the land of Bubba grin


Are you Chuck Sykes with the Bubba jokes?

Because he, like yourself, realizes that only poor Redneck's Bait. The wealthy all supplemental feed!


For the thousandth time, there is a difference between baiting and supplemental feeding.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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