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Re: Lab colors [Re: G/H] #2155884
07/03/17 04:07 PM
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Question - can pure bred labs a a white mark down their chest and on their feet? [img:center]http://[/img]

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Re: Lab colors [Re: CrappieKing] #2155956
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Long as the roof of the mouth is black it has potential.


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Re: Lab colors [Re: AUwrestler] #2156003
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Originally Posted By: AUwrestler
Long as the roof of the mouth is black it has potential.


Do what?

Re: Lab colors [Re: CrappieKing] #2156068
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Legend is a smart dog has a black mouth. Pink mouth is signs of dog that isnt high level. Meant as a joke, but a lot of guys swear by it. My BC is all black roof of mouth.


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Re: Lab colors [Re: CrappieKing] #2156205
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Yes they can but according to the akc it's not Desired l. It's called bolo spot. However if the mark is huge and there's lots of white I dk only thing you could do is get DNA sample

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Re: Lab colors [Re: CrappieKing] #2187483
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my dog is smarter than yours...he picked me as his owner...best of everything for "Fritz"...big yellow male(to be)....and he is very smart to know when and wherte to get his treats.....been traing dogs off and on since 1957...Chesapeakes as well as Labs...both have their qualities...

Re: Lab colors [Re: CrappieKing] #2217141
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Reading this thread reminds me why I love dogs, and don't much care for most trainers/breeders these days. A retriever is never arrogant or condescending or bigoted about its lineage, but it probably should be.

If you're breeding for ability and personality traits, the color doesn't matter. It can't, logically. If you're breeding for color/physical appearances, then nothing else much matters.

I'd take another red (or any color) Brit pup from hunting stock in a heartbeat.

Re: Lab colors [Re: CrappieKing] #2217967
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I don't say black are the most popular it is just they are the dominate color there are more black labs than any other There was a couple who bread only chocolate labs and they placed labs all over the USA there are a lot of Grand Champion chocolates. You can not say one color is smarter than the other. I have seen a lot of dumb black ones. Oh I see where someone ask about white on a labs chest and toes. That is a through back to the original labs. They have sense been bread to where the white is gone in almost all cases but sometime that gene comes back.


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Re: Lab colors [Re: BhamFred] #2218278
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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
From what I've heard from trainers blacks make the best hunting/field trial dogs, yellow some where in the middle, and chocolates are dumb as chit and stubborn.


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One of my cousins trains dogs for a living. It is his sole source of income and he makes a good living doing it. Trains them for both hunting and field trials for people from all over the country, and has trained several champion dogs. He would tell you there's not a whole lot of difference in a black or yellow (he says he'd prefer black if he had to choose, but they're close), but he swears that chocolate labs are, as a whole, more difficult. He all but refuses to take one. I trust his opinion on the topic more than most.


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Re: Lab colors [Re: CrappieKing] #2218754
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I've had two labs, a lighter yellow one and a chocolate. They both had just rudimentary behavior training. The yellow turned out to be a natural retriever except she never learned the concept of only retrieving my doves. That meant she didn't go on shoots unless it was just a small group of friends. She also never learned that every time I shot a dove wasn't coming down. She would have been great with formal training but we more or less discovered her talent for it by accident.

My chocolate has no interest in hunting and after being in my shop when it was struck by lightning and caught on fire, she is terrified of loud noises. She was either jolted by the lightning or so terrified she was frozen because I had to go in and carry her out. She is a great pet though and has two different coats. Winter is lighter like a grizzly bear and summer is dark brown. Pretty dog.

It means nothing really, but just going by this, yellows make better hunters than chocolates and my yellow would seem smarter to me, but the chocolate isn't dumb.

Both chewed and dug like crazy their first two years or so and then calmed down nicely. The yellow died when she was 15. My chocolate is 10 now and going strong.

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Re: Lab colors [Re: Solo] #2219067
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Originally Posted By: Solo
I've got a 15month old chocolate male who is freaking awesome. Never chewed a thing in the house and obedience is incredible. My boy had an tremendous first duck season this year. Truly man's best friend.

My parents have his litter mate that is a yellow male. He is a great dog, but he's not the same as my dog. He's a barker and will almost 100% break. He's still a great companion and friend.


If you have a 15 month old lab thats never chewed anything up, then you don't have a 15 month old lab. LOL


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Re: Lab colors [Re: CrappieKing] #2219083
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Shelby isn’t a chewer either. I think she’s learned a lot from Otis though. I can leave her alone at home while I run to town or something and when I come back she’ll just be laying in her bed waiting on me to get back. I don’t know how well she would do with field trials and such but so far she’s done outstanding with her blood tracking training. She’s super smart and got a lot of hunting drive. We’re about to find out what kind of tracking dog she’s really gonna be in another month or so when we get back on the real thing. #readytotrack



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Re: Lab colors [Re: CrappieKing] #2219357
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My chocolate has NEVER chewed anything, nor has his brother (yellow) that my parents have. My dog is incredibly smart and a great retriever with great manners. These dogs come from an awesome kennel with excellent hunting stock.

Re: Lab colors [Re: CrappieKing] #2221262
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My chocolate never chewed anything. My silver chewed every piece of wood he could find when he was younger. Now he only chews what we give him. He is 1.5 year old and 115lbs. But we take him to different bodies of water several times a week and throw a decoy for him to retrieve. He is obsessed with fetch.


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Re: Lab colors [Re: CrappieKing] #2256642
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I just got my first lab. A yellow male. I wanted black but this one was available at the right time for me. He's 13 weeks. Seems smart as a whip but of course he's doing all the things you dread from a lab puppy. He eats everything, his bed, shoes, door casing, furniture.

Re: Lab colors [Re: CrappieKing] #2279705
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How about some red dogs?







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