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Re: Lease price$ [Re: jbc] #2036323
02/22/17 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: jbc
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
I thought I had heard about some high priced land, $20 or $25 per acre for some very nice land with a cabin, but I talked to a real estate guy yesterday about a tract and he said he had it leased for $43.70 per acre, Pike county Alabama. It is about to get to the point that the po man won't be leasing anything.


I didn't know Mark Zuckerberg hunted. Oh well. Some have more money than sense. loco

Dr. B


Actually he does

http://fortune.com/2011/05/26/mark-zucke...mean-literally/


I had no idea. Well, while he was in Camden yesterday, he could've made some contacts!

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Re: Lease price$ [Re: Atoler] #2036405
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: centralala
Originally Posted By: turkey247


Lots of poor folks hunt wherever, whenever, however, and get along just fine.


Poor has nothing to do with it. There are plenty of public lands available to hunt for free. Poor is no excuse to steal from others working to improve their on hunting land. They are thieves and poachers by preference, not by financial status


You don't think there is a correlation between financial status and being a thief?

Not saying there aren't honest poor people or dishonest rich people, but I'm pretty sure you could determine some trends. Even if out of necessity


There is definitely a correlation, but it has nothing to do with money. The same qualities that define their financial decisions, typically influence other areas of their lives, including being a pos poacher. Being poor, making poor decisions, those are symptoms of the persons issues, and often they go hand in hand.

Ex. The guy walking down the street with his pants sagging on government assistance. Is he more likely to be a seller/user of drugs than an upper middle class man? Yes. Why? Because he more than likely possesses character traits which steer him towards being a bum, thinking it's acceptable to wear his pants around his knees, and having no moral objection to living off my tax dollars.



That is what I was trying to say!

Re: Lease price$ [Re: turkey247] #2036406
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Originally Posted By: turkey247
I didn't intend to have a psychological discussion of social status. I'll try to simplify.

The big money hunting game combined with complicated regulations and little enforcement will directly increase the violation of game laws by the less fortunate.




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Re: Lease price$ [Re: turkey247] #2036454
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Originally Posted By: turkey247
I didn't intend to have a psychological discussion of social status.




Well yeah, because you're wrong lol.

Re: Lease price$ [Re: timbercruiser] #2036759
02/23/17 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
About 600 acres, people from Tampa have it leased.


There's some folks come out of Florida with a lot of jack in their pockets to lease land. I've tracked for several clubs where I was blown away at how many acres some were leasing in prime areas. One club had 8 guys on right at 4500 acres.....in the middle of the good stuff too. I know it sucks from the standpoint of driving lease prices up but how can you really blame folks if they're loaded with money and want to hunt. All of the ones I've tracked for have been very friendly folks just hunting like everyone else.....except seeing a whole lot more! grin

Still though, $40 bucks an acre is unheard of.

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Re: Lease price$ [Re: timbercruiser] #2036889
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CNC,if I remember correctly you are in Macon Co. My neighbor bought some land there last summer solely for hunting. Had a few things stolen over the summer. He went back after this past season. Pulled up to his gate and it was GONE!! STOLEN!! Went on in to his camp and they had stolen everything but his travel trailer.....but they did get all the wheels off of it. My question is, do y'all have a "cost of doing business" y'all figure into lease prices there? grin

Re: Lease price$ [Re: centralala] #2036969
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Originally Posted By: centralala
CNC,if I remember correctly you are in Macon Co. My neighbor bought some land there last summer solely for hunting. Had a few things stolen over the summer. He went back after this past season. Pulled up to his gate and it was GONE!! STOLEN!! Went on in to his camp and they had stolen everything but his travel trailer.....but they did get all the wheels off of it. My question is, do y'all have a "cost of doing business" y'all figure into lease prices there? grin


Yep..Absentee landowners are prime targets out here. These local guys form crews and turn it into a money making venture until they get caught. Hell have to do something to either catch the folks doing it or do something to keep himself from being easy pickins.


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Re: Lease price$ [Re: CNC] #2036978
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Originally Posted By: CNC
Originally Posted By: centralala
CNC,if I remember correctly you are in Macon Co. My neighbor bought some land there last summer solely for hunting. Had a few things stolen over the summer. He went back after this past season. Pulled up to his gate and it was GONE!! STOLEN!! Went on in to his camp and they had stolen everything but his travel trailer.....but they did get all the wheels off of it. My question is, do y'all have a "cost of doing business" y'all figure into lease prices there? grin


Yep..Absentee landowners are prime targets out here. These local guys form crews and turn it into a money making venture until they get caught. Hell have to do something to either catch the folks doing it or do something to keep himself from being easy pickins.


Yeah the guys I know that hunt out there don't even lock the door to there shed/cabin or trailer any more because they were tired of having the door kicked in. Whoever was doing it was only steeling liquor in food so they started peeing in the empty liquor bottles and took the rest home with them needless to say they haven't had a problem with break ins recently lol

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Re: Lease price$ [Re: timbercruiser] #2037271
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Try and get into a hunt club south of Orlando for less than $8-10K per year. I was blown away at how much those guys were getting for pine & palmetto savanah with 110 pound bucks. No wonder they come up to Alabama and Georgia, it's a good deal for them.


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Re: Lease price$ [Re: coach41] #2039861
02/26/17 08:09 AM
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Seems like a good thread to share this story - I went on a turkey hunting trip in the Midwest and the outfitter was still furious with a hunter he'd hosted earlier. This guy is a starting QB in the NFL and everyone here would recognize his name.

The outfitter showed the QB the property and the lines, and told him not to cross the fence under any circumstances. He picked him up later in the morning and the QB had killed a turkey. He said the turkey was about 300 yds across the fence and wouldn't come, so he crossed the fence and got closer and killed the turkey.

He then couldn't understand why the outfitter was mad at him. He told him, "But I had to cross the fence or I wouldn't have killed the turkey." The fact that he might have caused the outfitter to lose his lease and damage his reputation seemed irrelevant to him; he felt entitled to kill the turkey.

There has no doubt been times in human history when the poor needed to poach in order to survive, but I don't think that happens very often in the USA today. A poacher is much more likely to just be somebody with an attitude of entitlement and no regard for other people.

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Re: Lease price$ [Re: timbercruiser] #2039880
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I'm assuming it wasn't Michael Vick rofl


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Re: Lease price$ [Re: 257wbymag] #2040200
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
I'm assuming it wasn't Michael Vick rofl

Only if him and his homeys had started a turkey fighting ring.


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Re: Lease price$ [Re: 257wbymag] #2041078
02/27/17 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
I'm assuming it wasn't Michael Vick rofl


Wasn't him. smile


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Re: Lease price$ [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2041115
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Poaching is just like stealing... no different. Living outside of town isn't what it use to be. In my lifetime I've seen it go from people who had never locked their doors.... to people not being able to keep anything that isn't bolted and then welded down and sometimes that doesn't stop it.

Why? Alabama's countryside is slap covered up with trash IMO. Both white and black. Everywhere you go.

Need to figure out a way to move them to Mississippi where they belong.


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Re: Lease price$ [Re: timbercruiser] #2041240
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Know what they did to folks that got caught poaching on the King's land in the olde country, right? Hung 'em by the neck 'til they was dead!!


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Re: Lease price$ [Re: timbercruiser] #2069897
03/26/17 03:42 AM
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son had a piece of property leased paying $25 per acre. the lease was for 2 years and than it was put up for bid. if you had the piece and someone else bid on it you had the right to match the bid. Someone bid $45.00 per acre and son let it go, he couldn't afford that. There are folks out there or companies out there willing to pay big bucks to lease land.

Re: Lease price$ [Re: timbercruiser] #2079763
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yall act like folks are stealing from out of your pocket. You may lease the land but them deer belong to the state. If i have a state hunting license and shoot one of the side of the road, thats my business. smile


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