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Re: Getting Started Questions [Re: CNC] #2072666
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1 possum last night. I was absolutely convinced one trap was set perfect to catch a coon. The trap was set in a funneled spot that we had pictures of them coming through. but not yet. much anticipation.


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Originally Posted By: CatHeadBiscuit
1 possum last night. I was absolutely convinced one trap was set perfect to catch a coon. The trap was set in a funneled spot that we had pictures of them coming through. but not yet. much anticipation.


Try running some different bait and lure in a few of the traps. Coons like sweet things. I melted down some coconut oil....mixed in a bottle of vanilla extract....and then let the oil cool and harden again. It seems to be working good. I just take a small crumble of it and drop it on top of my bait inside the trap. Try that along with some corn and see if the coons like it better. Every time I've ever used fish in live traps I've caught possums.

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Re: Getting Started Questions [Re: CNC] #2073773
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Try running some different bait and lure in a few of the traps. Coons like sweet things. I melted down some coconut oil....mixed in a bottle of vanilla extract....and then let the oil cool and harden again. It seems to be working good. I just take a small crumble of it and drop it on top of my bait inside the trap. Try that along with some corn and see if the coons like it better. Every time I've ever used fish in live traps I've caught possums.


Tomorrow we'll refresh cat food in half and put out a corn tube feeder with a couple pounds in it with 3 corn baited traps nearby. they seem to show up quick at the feeders.

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Re: Getting Started Questions [Re: CNC] #2073862
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1 possum last night. I was absolutely convinced one trap was set perfect to catch a coon. The trap was set in a funneled spot that we had pictures of them coming through. but not yet. much anticipation.


Try running some different bait and lure in a few of the traps. Coons like sweet things. I melted down some coconut oil....mixed in a bottle of vanilla extract....and then let the oil cool and harden again. It seems to be working good. I just take a small crumble of it and drop it on top of my bait inside the trap. Try that along with some corn and see if the coons like it better. Every time I've ever used fish in live traps I've caught possums.


I like the coconut oil idea. I've used a mixture of honey,vanilla and anise in cold weather that does good as a paste. You could add some grape kool-aid powder to that too,


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Re: Getting Started Questions [Re: k bush] #2073898
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Originally Posted By: k bush


I like the coconut oil idea. I've used a mixture of honey,vanilla and anise in cold weather that does good as a paste. You could add some grape kool-aid powder to that too,


It worked good on my first trial runs with it. I caught the coons using this bottom behind the house just bam, bam, bam over the course of a week or so. That vanilla extract puts out a pretty loud sweet smell and the hardened coconut oil makes for a good base to mix the scent into. If you'll keep it cool it'll stay hardened up and chip off in crumbles.

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Re: Getting Started Questions [Re: CNC] #2073901
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When we blood track for folks it’s pretty common to have yotes find the deer first if we have to give the deer overnight. How is that the yote finds that deer so fast? Are they just randomly stumbling up on them? Nah……I’m pretty sure they’re finding them the same way my tracking dog is doing it. I think when a deer runs wounded for 500, 600, 1000+ yards through the woods then he is putting down a line the whole way that the yote only needs to cross at any given point along the line to find the deer. Some may scent them on the wind too but I feel pretty sure that yotes would be more than adequate at the game of blood tracking too.

So……I’m just thinking here. Why couldn’t we use that same tendency against the yotes to catch more. What if we dragged a chum bag or carcass, etc behind us along the whole road system that we were trapping. That way any yote that randomly passes over the road will hit the scent line and begin to run the road system where our traps are set up. Anyone ever tried it?

I think I may try it when I go trap the new property. I’m just waiting on my buddy to get done turkey hunting first and then we’re about to move somewhere that should have some yotes passing through.

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Here’s another experiment I'm trying........



This is a deer leg bone after my dogs have picked it clean. I drilled a small hole in the end, cut the straight side off of a good stiff clothes hanger, pushed it as far as I could into the bone, and then hot glued around the hole to help hold it. What dog could resist checking out a bone.



I’m just thinking that if you’re gonna put out say 20, 30, 40+ sets across a property……then you likely wouldn’t want to make them all the same trap set... baited with the “lure”. Dogs are individuals and I have to figure that coyotes would be too. One may like this a little better than that, etc. I figure that if you put out several different setups then you’re likely to find one that they like. This is all just ponderings of a newbie keep in mind now. I’m just thinking about those percentages we were talking about earlier…..increasing our odds.




Not quite sure what kind of scent I want to use yet. I drilled some holes in the back of the bone thinking that it might let some marrow smell out of the bone or that maybe I could put some drops of deer blood down in the holes.





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Marshmallow got two young male coons last night.


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Originally Posted By: CatHeadBiscuit
Marshmallow got two young male coons last night.


The marshmallow is apparently a pretty effective bait. I may have to try some. The only knock on them was that they can be messy inside the trap. I guess it likely won't matter unless it rains.


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I've got a few DP's still set out but no additional coon catches. I'm pretty sure I've got them cleaned out of this bottom. I'm kinda of interested to see how long it will take for new ones to show up. I think I may keep running 2 or 3 easy to check traps for the next couple months or so to see when I start picking up any new catches. It would give us a little bit of an idea of how far ahead of our prime target trapping period we take predators out and still be effective. If I trap coons in Feb.....will they still be gone in late April or May? Will the local population completely recover by the next season, etc...???

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Sitting here watching it rain and I had a few thoughts. Now this is coming from someone new to trapping so take it with a grain of salt…..but…..someone asked the other day if you should dye and wax your trap when moving from one property to the next. Feel free to contradict me if you disagree but I’m gonna say yes and here’s why.

I’ve been practicing making sets with my traps over the last few weeks and what I’ve noticed is that once you start getting the trap really dirty…..it loses it’s precision. The pan tension set to a “just right” level after waxing becomes really heavy after its been in the ground and lost all that clean lubrication. My pan stops operating nearly as smoothly as it did immediately after waxing. If I’m going to set up a new property, then I’d want each and every trap starting out day one with the precision of having just the right amount of pan tension and operating in a well-oiled fashion.

The dying part of the process seems to be done for the purpose of long term care. I think that is what is keeping the trap from corroding over time….5,10,15 years. Basically a weather coating. My traps seem to have taken the dye much better the second time around. Dying may be one of those things that you eventually just need to do as necessary in order to keep the trap well dyed but not necessarily every single time you move. Waxing though I would think would want to be done every time if that’s what it takes to have precision pan tension. I think when I go back to the trapping store I’m gonna buy pan tester so that I know I have each trap firing just right when I put ‘em in the ground.

Any thoughts?


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First additional catch “post-trapping”……….Roughly 15 days after initially cleaning the bottom out. This could be one that I was just missing but if so it sure has taken her a long time to finally take the bait. I’m guessing it’s a new one moving in though. It’s a small female. It could be one that just wandered off a little farther than normal last night I suppose.



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I picked up another additional catch this morning on the same set. This time I picked up another grinner. That’s 2 additional catches now post trapping. The original total was 7 coons and 1 grinner during our initial two week trapping period. That's heavily weighted towards coons which means that either there are way more coons than possums or the DP traps aren’t as effective on possums. I’ve been thinking about putting out my live trap with some salmon to see how many grinners I’m missing and I probably need to go ahead and do just that.

Do you think coon populations and possum populations would be equal?



This one was actually a female possum carrying 7 little ones in her pouch. I went ahead and bopped ‘em in the head so they didn’t just suffer to death. Technically that’s 8 possums in one catch. whistle





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After a week with no catches or signs of activity I feel like Forrest Gump the first time he emptied his nets.


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Originally Posted By: CatHeadBiscuit
After a week with no catches or signs of activity I feel like Forrest Gump the first time he emptied his nets.


I think we've probably all just learned a valuable lesson on timing of trapping. It looks like the full moon period is just about a useless time to trap coons. I was even reading on another trapping forum where they reported the same thing with yotes. I think we may need to plan our trapping efforts around the new moon.

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It's not totally useless, just not as productive. Caught a coon and a mouse in the DP's this morning. Had a miss on a dirt hole set from a coyote.

On the dirt hole I played with the trap placement. I used a two trap set with the rear trap offset to the left and the close trap offset to the right. The trap that was sprung was an older Victor #3 that probably needs to have the springs replaced. With a standard 9/2 my luck would have likely been better. Learning from my mistakes.

I've had coon catches Thursday, Saturday and today, all boars. 3 different tracts but real just a mile or so apart. Each set was made on fresh sign.


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Originally Posted By: k bush
It's not totally useless, just not as productive. Caught a coon and a mouse in the DP's this morning. Had a miss on a dirt hole set from a coyote.

On the dirt hole I played with the trap placement. I used a two trap set with the rear trap offset to the left and the close trap offset to the right. The trap that was sprung was an older Victor #3 that probably needs to have the springs replaced. With a standard 9/2 my luck would have likely been better. Learning from my mistakes.

I've had coon catches Thursday, Saturday and today, all boars. 3 different tracts but real just a mile or so apart. Each set was made on fresh sign.


I've wondered about offsetting two traps like that. The other idea I was wondering about is setting two on a post set with one to either side.


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I set the front trap closer than 9" but offset too far. I may still run two traps but the primary will be 9" and 2" offset.

I was planning on pulling the set that was worked this morning anyway. I am not going to be able to check this weekend and it was the hardest set to get to. By Wednesday I will have everything pulled and then start over the following week on a different tract.

I did save the mouse from the door proof trap to use in a dirt hole later. Ive got a bunch of chipmunks here at the house, wonder if they will trigger a dog proof ?


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Originally Posted By: k bush


I did save the mouse from the door proof trap to use in a dirt hole later. Ive got a bunch of chipmunks here at the house, wonder if they will trigger a dog proof ?


Chipmunks may be just a little too big to fit in the hole like the mice do....and a little too small to be able to reach the trigger. You can catch them with one of the big rat traps though.

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Two more additional catches post trapping on my home property as well as my first true double. These were both males. That puts us up to 12 catches with 4 of those catches coming after our initial two week trapping period. This is the same spot that I'm just resetting after each catch. The one on the left would have probably got your arse with a quickness. He was pissed.



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