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280Remington #2022027 02/09/17 05:23 AM 02/09/17 05:23 AM
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AU7MM08 OP Booner A Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 14,020 Some Marriott/Auburn	I am picking up a 280 Remington this afternoon. Does anyone know if a 120gr TTSX can be loaded in a 280Rem? Seems like that would be a super flat and light recoiling absolutely awesome deer load.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2022042 02/09/17 05:38 AM 02/09/17 05:38 AM
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odocoileus 14 point Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,725 Selma	140gr partition and kill anything in North America.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2022053 02/09/17 05:44 AM 02/09/17 05:44 AM
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N2TRKYS Booner N Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 14,588 Tuscaloosa Co.	Hodgdon has loading data for the 120 grain tsx on their website. 83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: 280Remington [Re: N2TRKYS] #2022075 02/09/17 06:09 AM 02/09/17 06:09 AM
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Goatkiller 14 point Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,165 B'ham	I am sure it can but think of it like this.... Ballistic coefficient is horrible. Down range energy is going to suffer. If you are just making it go faster inside a cartridge's max point blank range what did you achieve.... Nothing. You can get good killing power out over 400 yards on a Whitetail with a 140 gr. at around 3000 fps with a point blank range of 300 yards with minimal recoil. To me that is a sweet spot for the .280 as a deer cartridge. No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2022145 02/09/17 07:14 AM 02/09/17 07:14 AM
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dave260rem! Skinny’s Ex Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,698 behind my Dillon	If the 140s don't work try the 150s.Why? Every .280 i've seen favors heavy bullets. Only hits count.

Re: 280Remington [Re: Goatkiller] #2022198 02/09/17 08:10 AM 02/09/17 08:10 AM
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BrentM Mr. Turkey B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,340 Jackson County	Originally Posted By: Goatkiller I am sure it can but think of it like this.... Ballistic coefficient is horrible. Down range energy is going to suffer. If you are just making it go faster inside a cartridge's max point blank range what did you achieve.... Nothing. You can get good killing power out over 400 yards on a Whitetail with a 140 gr. at around 3000 fps with a point blank range of 300 yards with minimal recoil. To me that is a sweet spot for the .280 as a deer cartridge. BC is .350 on the little 120 Barnes bullets which isn't bad at all. Start em at 3200 fps with a 200 yard zero and at 500 yards they're only 7 minutes low and still have over 1000 fbs of energy. I shoot em in my 280 Ackley. I'd pick something different for an elk hunt but the 120's are bad news on a whitetail. A 140 started at 2950 or so would have just a touch more energy at 500 but it would also be just a little over a minute lower. Couldn't go wrong with either it would just be a matter of which one your rifle liked best.

Re: 280Remington [Re: BrentM] #2022373 02/09/17 10:45 AM 02/09/17 10:45 AM
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Goatkiller 14 point Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,165 B'ham	Still don't see the advantage. So if you are comparing a 500 yard performance as part of your argument then I would say there is no comparison to be made. I would rather have something OVER 140 grain with a higher BC. Shots are not made in a vacuum chamber or by reading the trajectory off a ballistic table. .350 ain't good when better is readily available in the same caliber. That is about as bad as 7mm gets... I mean call it "good" as compared to what? .22 cal? So to just peel away the onion further... If you're goal is to shoot a 120 over 3000 why are you shooting a .280 in the first place? Who would walk into a gun store and say... "I want to shoot a 120gr bullet over 3000, so please give me a .280". The answer to that is the reason you don't see factory loads with these little bullets in calibers across the board. It is also the reason there are so many calibers to pick from in the first place. It doesn't make sense. There is something better and readily available. In this case and equal comparison would be something like .25-06 with a 120 at 3200 BUT with a higher about a .390-4 BC. See how that works. A lot better, no, but better. If this were that easy we'd all shoot 110 grainers from a 30-06. And don't say well you can't shoot heavier bullets with the .25-06 like you can with .280 because that is my point. .280 is meant for heavier bullets. All that being said go ahead and shoot 120's if that floats your boat just understand why some of us would recommend a heavier bullet. I ain't mad at you. No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.

Re: 280Remington [Re: Goatkiller] #2022413 02/09/17 11:32 AM 02/09/17 11:32 AM
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87dixieboy 10 point Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 3,850 Dothan/Hartford,Al	Originally Posted By: Goatkiller Still don't see the advantage. So if you are comparing a 500 yard performance as part of your argument then I would say there is no comparison to be made. I would rather have something OVER 140 grain with a higher BC. Shots are not made in a vacuum chamber or by reading the trajectory off a ballistic table. .350 ain't good when better is readily available in the same caliber. That is about as bad as 7mm gets... I mean call it "good" as compared to what? .22 cal? So to just peel away the onion further... If you're goal is to shoot a 120 over 3000 why are you shooting a .280 in the first place? Who would walk into a gun store and say... "I want to shoot a 120gr bullet over 3000, so please give me a .280". The answer to that is the reason you don't see factory loads with these little bullets in calibers across the board. It is also the reason there are so many calibers to pick from in the first place. It doesn't make sense. There is something better and readily available. In this case and equal comparison would be something like .25-06 with a 120 at 3200 BUT with a higher about a .390-4 BC. See how that works. A lot better, no, but better. If this were that easy we'd all shoot 110 grainers from a 30-06. And don't say well you can't shoot heavier bullets with the .25-06 like you can with .280 because that is my point. .280 is meant for heavier bullets. All that being said go ahead and shoot 120's if that floats your boat just understand why some of us would recommend a heavier bullet. I ain't mad at you. Completely agree here. Just get you some 160-170gr bullets and don't worry about the speed. Id prefer the 168gr berger with the BC at .56 but that's just me. If I ever get the itch to shoot my 7mm again that what ill be using Only accurate rifles are interesting.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2022484 02/09/17 12:46 PM 02/09/17 12:46 PM
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257wbymag Boo Boo Head Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 38,489 N. Bama	Have fun with your new 280 Remington. Fine round you chose Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias

Re: 280Remington [Re: 257wbymag] #2022497 02/09/17 01:07 PM 02/09/17 01:07 PM
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AU7MM08 OP Booner A Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 14,020 Some Marriott/Auburn	Originally Posted By: 257wbymag Have fun with your new 280 Remington. Fine round you chose Thank you. I saw it pop up for sale and had to snag it. In a lot of ways it overlaps in its capabilities of my 7MM08 but in other ways it is more capable. This is my first Steyr, it seems like a nice rifle but just sorta odd. The reason the 120gr's popped into my head was because I wasn't sure if 280 was a caliber that benefitted from the equation, the more speed the better.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2022519 02/09/17 01:31 PM 02/09/17 01:31 PM
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257wbymag Boo Boo Head Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 38,489 N. Bama	They all benefit from more speed is better with Barnes! Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2022561 02/09/17 02:14 PM 02/09/17 02:14 PM
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N2TRKYS Booner N Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 14,588 Tuscaloosa Co.	If you already have a 7-08, I would run 160 grainers in that Express. 83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2022596 02/09/17 02:32 PM 02/09/17 02:32 PM
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dave260rem! Skinny’s Ex Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,698 behind my Dillon	Don't be calling it the 7mm Remington Express(which is what Big Green did in 1979) Only hits count.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2022677 02/09/17 03:51 PM 02/09/17 03:51 PM
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joshm28 14 point J Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,375 Jasper, AL	Ackley improve it and run some heavies is my vote

Re: 280Remington [Re: joshm28] #2022812 02/09/17 05:50 PM 02/09/17 05:50 PM
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AU7MM08 OP Booner A Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 14,020 Some Marriott/Auburn	Originally Posted By: joshm28 Ackley improve it and run some heavies is my vote What would be involved with doing the conversion/modification? How much would it run?

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2022837 02/09/17 06:11 PM 02/09/17 06:11 PM
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dave260rem! Skinny’s Ex Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,698 behind my Dillon	If you want faster 7mil buy weatherby or ultra mag. P.O.(Parker) Ackley was super smart with his Improved cartridges. Only hits count.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2022866 02/09/17 06:39 PM 02/09/17 06:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,340 Jackson County B BrentM Mr. Turkey
BrentM Mr. Turkey B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,340 Jackson County	We've gotten off topic a little. The OP's question was whether or not the 120 TTSX is a good whitetail bullet out of a .280. The answer is it's an excellent bullet for whitetails. When I got a .280AI I tried Barnes 120's 140's and 145's. My rifle likes the 120's better than anything and they will kill the living hell out of a deer. If I was shooting past 400 yards or shooting at an elk I'd do something different but I'm not and I doubt that AUM is either. Goatkiller I don't ever hunt with a 30-06 but I do shoot 110's out of my .308 most of the time. Sometimes I do go all the way up to 130's though. I agree with Joshm28 too..... if I knew a gunsmith that wouldn't charge me an arm and a leg I'd ream that chamber out to 280 Ackley. That will give you a big jump up from a 7-08 if you ever start shooting big critters way off and you actually need heavy bullets.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2022938 02/10/17 12:42 AM 02/10/17 12:42 AM
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riflenut 10 point R Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,462 Mississippi	Originally Posted By: AU7MM08 Originally Posted By: joshm28 Ackley improve it and run some heavies is my vote What would be involved with doing the conversion/modification? How much would it run? Just have the chamber reamed to 280 AI. After that, shoot your current 280s in it to blow out the shoulders. Buy 280 AI dies and enjoy. "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson "I ask, who are the militia? They consist of now of the whole people, except a few public officers." George Mason

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2023060 02/10/17 04:06 AM 02/10/17 04:06 AM
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odocoileus 14 point Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,725 Selma	Originally Posted By: AU7MM08 Originally Posted By: joshm28 Ackley improve it and run some heavies is my vote What would be involved with doing the conversion/modification? How much would it run? More than it's worth on a factory gun.

Re: 280Remington [Re: odocoileus] #2023081 02/10/17 04:27 AM 02/10/17 04:27 AM
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AU7MM08 OP Booner A Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 14,020 Some Marriott/Auburn	Originally Posted By: odocoileus Originally Posted By: AU7MM08 Originally Posted By: joshm28 Ackley improve it and run some heavies is my vote What would be involved with doing the conversion/modification? How much would it run? More than it's worth on a factory gun. That's sorta what I figured.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2023149 02/10/17 05:25 AM 02/10/17 05:25 AM
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joshm28 14 point J Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,375 Jasper, AL	Originally Posted By: AU7MM08 Originally Posted By: odocoileus Originally Posted By: AU7MM08 Originally Posted By: joshm28 Ackley improve it and run some heavies is my vote What would be involved with doing the conversion/modification? How much would it run? More than it's worth on a factory gun. That's sorta what I figured. The cost is roughly $125. BUT... you could go a head and have the receiver trued while you were at it to further improve accuracy. Might be worth it in the long run. Depends on if you keep guns forever or sell/trade them on a whim.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2023671 02/10/17 04:13 PM 02/10/17 04:13 PM
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AU7MM08 OP Booner A Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 14,020 Some Marriott/Auburn	This afternoon I went into a local store and picked up a 20rd of Barnes TTSX 140gr and I stumbled upon a 100ct box of 150gr Corelokt projectiles for $22 so I snagged those. Figured I couldn't pass up projectiles for $.22 each.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2024019 02/11/17 03:15 AM 02/11/17 03:15 AM
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Reloader79 Bitch Peas, I'm a Kitty Whisperer R Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 5,241 Behind your shadow	The 280 is everything the 270 wants to be. If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong. Bluetick serpentines around green fields and rock spit a lease

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2024255 02/11/17 08:07 AM 02/11/17 08:07 AM
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Dixiepatriot Freak of Nature Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 22,689 Morgan Co.	I use 162s or 154s in mine. Get some RL-19 or IMR4350 http://familyfoundationfund.org Proud descendant of confederate soldiers. Auburn elitist

Re: 280Remington [Re: Reloader79] #2024598 02/11/17 03:18 PM 02/11/17 03:18 PM
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BrentM Mr. Turkey B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,340 Jackson County	Originally Posted By: Reloader79 The 280 is everything the 270 wants to be. Yep. It's a 270 with no homosexual tendencies

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2024886 02/12/17 02:23 AM 02/12/17 02:23 AM
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riflenut 10 point R Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,462 Mississippi	I want to shoot lighter bullets in my 280 but she loves big bullets. She's a 1.25 MOA rifle with 140ish bullets but a 5/8ish one with 160 or 162s. I will get her reamed to 280 AI one day but not high on priority list. "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson "I ask, who are the militia? They consist of now of the whole people, except a few public officers." George Mason

Re: 280Remington [Re: Reloader79] #2025150 02/12/17 09:38 AM 02/12/17 09:38 AM
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Dixiepatriot Freak of Nature Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 22,689 Morgan Co.	Originally Posted By: Reloader79 The 280 is everything the 270 wants to be. I've always thought of a 270 as an antelope gun. http://familyfoundationfund.org Proud descendant of confederate soldiers. Auburn elitist

Re: 280Remington [Re: Dixiepatriot] #2025245 02/12/17 12:17 PM 02/12/17 12:17 PM
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AU7MM08 OP Booner A Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 14,020 Some Marriott/Auburn	Originally Posted By: Dixiepatriot Originally Posted By: Reloader79 The 280 is everything the 270 wants to be. I've always thought of a 270 as an antelope gun. Oh goodness. Those are fightin words with 270 fans.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2025264 02/12/17 12:41 PM 02/12/17 12:41 PM
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257wbymag Boo Boo Head Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 38,489 N. Bama	I bet the 270 fans hit all limp wristed and shucks. Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias

Re: 280Remington [Re: 257wbymag] #2025280 02/12/17 12:51 PM 02/12/17 12:51 PM
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AU7MM08 OP Booner A Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 14,020 Some Marriott/Auburn	Originally Posted By: 257wbymag I bet the 270 fans hit all limp wristed and shucks. Where do 270WSM fans stand?

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2025322 02/12/17 01:35 PM 02/12/17 01:35 PM
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dave260rem! Skinny’s Ex Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,698 behind my Dillon	It's ok those Roy fans don't like talking about 22 inch barrels,like what real hunters use.Get a chonograph and compare. Only hits count.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2025336 02/12/17 01:45 PM 02/12/17 01:45 PM
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BrentM Mr. Turkey B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,340 Jackson County	Originally Posted By: AU7MM08 Originally Posted By: Dixiepatriot Originally Posted By: Reloader79 The 280 is everything the 270 wants to be. I've always thought of a 270 as an antelope gun. Oh goodness. Those are fightin words with 270 fans. Slap fight!!

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2025397 02/12/17 02:41 PM 02/12/17 02:41 PM
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257wbymag Boo Boo Head Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 38,489 N. Bama	The 270wsm,270 wby and 270 stw ungay the .277. But that's about it Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias

Re: 280Remington [Re: 257wbymag] #2025525 02/12/17 04:10 PM 02/12/17 04:10 PM
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AU7MM08 OP Booner A Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 14,020 Some Marriott/Auburn	Originally Posted By: 257wbymag The 270wsm,270 wby and 270 stw ungay the .277. But that's about it LOL. I'm just a fan of calibers 6-7MM. From the little versatile 243 up to the big bad 7MM Wby Mag & 28 Nosler.

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2025980 02/13/17 05:23 AM 02/13/17 05:23 AM
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odocoileus 14 point Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,725 Selma	Please explain how the cartridge that has probably killed more game in North America, behind the 30-06, than any other in modern hunting, is gay?

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2026112 02/13/17 07:18 AM 02/13/17 07:18 AM
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Dixiepatriot Freak of Nature Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 22,689 Morgan Co.	They're all gay compared to the 06. http://familyfoundationfund.org Proud descendant of confederate soldiers. Auburn elitist

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2026123 02/13/17 07:26 AM 02/13/17 07:26 AM
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odocoileus 14 point Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,725 Selma	Put your hands on a 1951 Winchester Model 70 in .300 H&H Magnum and gay doesn't cross your mind.

Re: 280Remington [Re: 257wbymag] #2027117 02/14/17 04:36 AM 02/14/17 04:36 AM
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Remington270 Freak of Nature R Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 21,781 USA	Originally Posted By: 257wbymag The 270wsm,270 wby and 270 stw ungay the .277. But that's about it Hey, wait just a minute

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2027483 02/14/17 10:19 AM 02/14/17 10:19 AM
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257wbymag Boo Boo Head Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 38,489 N. Bama	Yup. You heard me Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias

Re: 280Remington [Re: odocoileus] #2028029 02/14/17 05:47 PM 02/14/17 05:47 PM
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AU338MAG Old Mossy Horns A Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,047 North AL	Originally Posted By: odocoileus Put your hands on a 1951 Winchester Model 70 in .300 H&H Magnum and gay doesn't cross your mind. Have a 1949 model. The steel butt plate on mine will get your attention when you pull the trigger. Barrel is inscribed with "300 MAGNUM". A lot of todays hunters would try to stick a 300 Win Mag cartridge in it, not knowing that the 300 WM wasn't introduced until 1963. Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales Molon Labe

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2044782 03/02/17 07:56 AM 03/02/17 07:56 AM
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Standbanger 12 point S Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 5,034 Gurley, Alabama	STFU about the 270 it's bad to the ass

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU338MAG] #2044974 03/02/17 12:10 PM 03/02/17 12:10 PM
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odocoileus 14 point Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,725 Selma	Originally Posted By: AU338MAG Originally Posted By: odocoileus Put your hands on a 1951 Winchester Model 70 in .300 H&H Magnum and gay doesn't cross your mind. Have a 1949 model. The steel butt plate on mine will get your attention when you pull the trigger. Barrel is inscribed with "300 MAGNUM". A lot of todays hunters would try to stick a 300 Win Mag cartridge in it, not knowing that the 300 WM wasn't introduced until 1963. Yep many don't know that. They started marking them 300 H&H in 1951. My uncle has one made in 1951 per serial number but still stamped 300 Magnum. Likely an early 1951 gun with a leftover barrel from the previous year.

Re: 280Remington [Re: Standbanger] #2045150 03/02/17 04:02 PM 03/02/17 04:02 PM
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BrentM Mr. Turkey B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,340 Jackson County	Originally Posted By: Standbanger STFU about the 270 it's bad to the ass Are you saying the .270 takes it in the ass? That may be a bit extreme

Re: 280Remington [Re: AU7MM08] #2045171 03/02/17 04:15 PM 03/02/17 04:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 10,586 Central, Al Bustinbeards Booner
Bustinbeards Booner Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 10,586 Central, Al	Wait a second, Are y'all saying the .280 is the transgender brother of the .270? Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.

Re: 280Remington [Re: Bustinbeards] #2045960 03/03/17 12:14 PM 03/03/17 12:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 38,489 N. Bama 257wbymag Boo Boo Head
257wbymag Boo Boo Head Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 38,489 N. Bama	Originally Posted By: Bustinbeards Wait a second, Are y'all saying the .280 is the transgender brother of the .270? No sir. Not one bit Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias

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