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Re: Maybe it's time to quit
[Re: BradB]
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02/02/17 06:01 PM
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Boo Boo Head
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Maybe you can lease me the turkey rights if it's got any
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Maybe it's time to quit
[Re: BradB]
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02/03/17 04:20 AM
02/03/17 04:20 AM
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Joined: Feb 2007
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Yelp softly
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The OP didn't say that pressure in years past was the same but I'm guessing it was. The weather has been very poor for two seasons in a row now. It's just not cold enough to prompt deer to move during the daylight. Be careful trying to draw too many conclusions from the last two years.
I agree that 320 acres is very small and can be over pressured very quickly. You can manage small tracts, but you have to really limit the pressure. Lastly, there's somewhat of a paradox to QDM. Everyone thinks they want QDM but often fail to realize that it may involve lowering the population. Once that population drops these guys abandon QDM. If you truly want to manage for more impressive deer, it sounds like you're on the right track. If you want to see lots of deer, keep them hungry. A well fed deer in good health doesn't have to get up and look for food during daylight. Just one more reason to limit the pressure on the spot you're hunting.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Maybe it's time to quit
[Re: Yelp softly]
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02/03/17 04:48 AM
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You need to do a Camera Survey and figure out if you have any deer. That's the biggest thing. If the answer is low numbers then.... Not much you can do.
Maybe ask the neighbors to stop shooting all of them. With no season limits on does this is getting more and more common. I've got a couple tracts that I can't really lease because there ain't no deer. And I just don't do that to people, i.e. letting them figure that out after they paid. Billy Bob that lives down the road kills every one he sees.
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Re: Maybe it's time to quit
[Re: BradB]
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02/03/17 06:25 AM
02/03/17 06:25 AM
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Joined: Feb 2007
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Yelp softly
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You said less than 20 sits prior to your trip. That's pressure. Combine that with that fact that a deer's home range is usually a square mile (640 acres) or more and you quickly realize that your neighbors play just as big of a role in pressuring the deer as you do. It doesn't matter how many deer are killed. If these properties go 8 months with little human activity and then guys start showing up on weekends during bow season, that's pressure. Combine that with the very mild winter temps we've had and it's a bad combo.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Maybe it's time to quit
[Re: BradB]
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02/03/17 06:36 AM
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It's just been a crappy last two years don't put much into it.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Maybe it's time to quit
[Re: blumsden]
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02/03/17 11:08 AM
02/03/17 11:08 AM
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Yelp softly
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Rethink how you are accessing your stands. Are u using a climber? If so maybe buy some ladder stands so you can be more quiet. The most overlooked part of hunting is stand access. Done wrong and it brings about exactly what your experiencing. Done right and limited it can be very rewarding. You don't want to spook deer going in or out. Start hunting your property during the early season from the outside and move inward as the season progresses. Solid advice here. It's amazing to me how many guys don't give this much consideration. We have some food plots at our club that I will not hunt because they are not accessible without driving or walking right through prime bedding cover. Our harvest records over the last decade also suggest these plots are not good areas but some guys keep trying it.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Maybe it's time to quit
[Re: Yelp softly]
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02/03/17 11:34 AM
02/03/17 11:34 AM
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Posts: 2,898 Ozark , Alabama
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I definitely agree with you guys on stand access as I know on a couple of my stands it could be problematic and I have really tried to minimize it. I put in a low water crossing in my creek and got my neighbor to allow me access along his north line which really helped I think, but I have a creek running diagonally through the place that makes things very difficult when it is up, which it was most of the trip.I actually used my climber this year for the first time in a long time, usually go with ladders or boxes, but I really wanted to get in the thicker woods and try something different I hoped would get better results.I did shoot my only buck this year out of it in an area I located, which was pretty satisfying. Thanks for the replies, there is a lot of great info on these forums.
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Re: Maybe it's time to quit
[Re: BradB]
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02/04/17 07:32 PM
02/04/17 07:32 PM
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muddyfeet
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I would invest in several cameras, and take a weekend in February right after the season while the deer are still in their winter patterns and do a whole lot of walking around before I leased the place out. After that if I wasn't satisfied I would make a decision.
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Re: Maybe it's time to quit
[Re: blumsden]
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02/05/17 04:03 AM
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Posts: 6,384 D'Iberville, MS
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Rethink how you are accessing your stands. Are u using a climber? If so maybe buy some ladder stands so you can be more quiet. The most overlooked part of hunting is stand access. Done wrong and it brings about exactly what your experiencing. Done right and limited it can be very rewarding. You don't want to spook deer going in or out. Start hunting your property during the early season from the outside and move inward as the season progresses. This^^^^
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Re: Maybe it's time to quit
[Re: BradB]
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02/05/17 04:22 AM
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hunterturf
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No clue where this land is but stay off it until the rut. Deer will move in bc of LACK OF PRESSURE. Choose the days you hunt wisely and only hunt when the wind is right. Have good, trimmed out, quiet entry and exit trails so you don't leave scent. If possible have a shooting house with Windows weather stripping to help contain your scent as much as possible.
Give me bout 15 more minutes, I was dreamin about beavers.......... Si Robertson
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