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Thoughts on summer plots....
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01/30/17 11:15 AM
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We have finally removed the hay and cattle farmers from our property so I will be planting much more in the way of summer plots. The pastures are about 350 acres on the north end of property. I am considering planting two plots (12-15 acres each) in cowpeas and grain sorghum. I also want to plant about 8-9 acres of brown top millet and sunflowers for a dove field.
The unplanted areas of the pastures will have the hay cut and removed by a man off the property.
Does anyone have any other crops that they have had success with? I am in west central Alabama (Sumter County).
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Re: Thoughts on summer plots....
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01/30/17 04:36 PM
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Plant a few different things and let them tell ya what they like. We planted soybeans and they mowed them down.
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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Re: Thoughts on summer plots....
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01/31/17 09:20 AM
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I was looking into planting a summer crop for deer and the best thing I've found is the Whitetail Institute blend of soybeans, iron clay peas and sunflower
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Re: Thoughts on summer plots....
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All those are good ideas.
I had another friend mention planting alfalfa in the pastures. Does it make good hay and will it reseed?
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Re: Thoughts on summer plots....
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There are numerous weeds in the pastures (prior leasors did not do a good job, thats why they are no longer there).
Would a roundup ready crop be advisable for at least a few years until the seedbed gets a little better?
I have planted RR corn and soybeans, but does anyone know if clay peas or sunn hemp is available in RR?
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Re: Thoughts on summer plots....
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There are RR clay peas, but not sunn hemp. Sunn hemp fixates a ton of nitrogen, and is very good for the soil. Sunn hemp also provides great cover for fawns.
I would spray and disc, then plant whatever I was going to plant.
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Re: Thoughts on summer plots....
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There are RR clay peas, but not sunn hemp. Sunn hemp fixates a ton of nitrogen, and is very good for the soil. Sunn hemp also provides great cover for fawns.
I would spray and disc, then plant whatever I was going to plant. Bull crap there aren't RR iron and clay peas. To the OP plant RR soybeans. They're easy to maintain, easy to grow and deer love them. Get your soil right and plant RR alfalfa. You'll have deer running out your kazoo and the rack improvement will be amazing. You MUST have the pH in the correct range when it's planted.
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Re: Thoughts on summer plots....
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There are RR clay peas, but not sunn hemp. Sunn hemp fixates a ton of nitrogen, and is very good for the soil. Sunn hemp also provides great cover for fawns.
I would spray and disc, then plant whatever I was going to plant. Bull crap there aren't RR iron and clay peas. To the OP plant RR soybeans. They're easy to maintain, easy to grow and deer love them. Get your soil right and plant RR alfalfa. You'll have deer running out your kazoo and the rack improvement will be amazing. You MUST have the pH in the correct range when it's planted. I misspoke on this one. I was looking at RR soybeans and for some reason read them as clay peas.
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Re: Thoughts on summer plots....
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I’d take look at the bigger picture of it first and design a layout for the whole area. I’d take into consideration how the other habitat around it is laid out and design it to fit with the surrounding habitat. I’d take some big portions of it and plant it in Native Warm season grasses, etc for the base understory. I’d put in at least a couple 10 acres fields that could be used for “crops”. I’d have other lanes maybe toward the perimeter for strategic hunting setups. Those would be planted in cereal rye and clover. If I didn’t have hogs then I’d probably use on of the 10 acre fields to plant corn and I’d overseed it with cereal rye in the late fall. The other 10 acre fields I’d have planted in cereal grains and clover as large destination food plots.
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Thoughts on summer plots....
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02/02/17 04:43 AM
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So do you own the property and can do anything you want out there or is this a lease?
I think CNC's advise is the best course of action if you own it. I have a place I own that had some very large fields that I let fallow for a while and today I've got them divided up into connecting sections that I rotate planting every couple years. Basically what I've got is an interconnected maze of CRP out there. The hunting is real good. Use to be a sod farm.
I'm not sure it matters what I plant.... Beans and peas are hard to beat. Corn left standing is real good obviously into hunting season.
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Re: Thoughts on summer plots....
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So do you own the property and can do anything you want out there or is this a lease?
I think CNC's advise is the best course of action if you own it. I have a place I own that had some very large fields that I let fallow for a while and today I've got them divided up into connecting sections that I rotate planting every couple years. Basically what I've got is an interconnected maze of CRP out there. The hunting is real good. Use to be a sod farm.
I'm not sure it matters what I plant.... Beans and peas are hard to beat. Corn left standing is real good obviously into hunting season. I do not own it but the owner has given me permission to do whatever I want with the pastures as long as he makes the same amount as the old lessors ($3500 per year) on the hay. I have had the other 1000 acres leased for hunting for the last 10 years. Last year the former lessors took 800 rolls of crappy hay off. About 150 acres never was hayed, but had cows on it. These guys never sprayed or fertilized the hay, but even with the poor quality hay they could get $25 per round bale. That is $20,000. The guy we have agreed to cut the hay only will cut, roll, and sell the hay. We will not have to find buyers or do anything. We are planning on fertilizing the best pasture (80 acres) and using the profits from that to start spraying everything and fertilizing all the pastures. The guy who will cut it will get 66% and we keep 34%. Out of our cut will come the $3500 for the lease. The rest we will put back into the property. As we start cutting more acreage and have a better quality hay we will have more money to spend on the property. So instead of getting $25 per roll on 150 acres we will hopefully get $40 or so and more like 1500 rolls per year. I am hoping in a few years time we can have about 75-80 acres in corn, beans, peas or things for the wildlife and basically no out of pocket costs. Just a lot of labor, but I need something to do.
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Re: Thoughts on summer plots....
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Do you have hogs on this place? In the 10 years we have had it we have killed 4 hogs. So they are not a problem now, but that may change when we plant corn and beans...
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