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Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2005798
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I've been using Norma brass, too. I haven't found much difference in using different brass, except Lapua. Lapua is the only one I've had issues with.


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Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2005834
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I sort all of my brass. Different brass creates different pressires


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Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: 257wbymag] #2005853
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
I sort all of my brass. Different brass creates different pressires


this ^^^^^ 100%


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2006115
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
I've got a 7 SAUM that's shooting 160 grain Accubonds at 2835 fps. The 3 shot group is the size of a penny with a SD of 5.0 and a spread of 10. I can get in the 2900s with a different powder and good accuracy. After seeing Nosler's loaded ammo with a muzzle velocity of 2850 listed on the box, makes me think the 2900+ may be a little much in my factory 22" barrel.

Would you be happy with the 2835 fps or what do you think it should be getting?


I'm not sure what the case capacity of the SAUM is but I'm running 150g bergers in a 7 Remington mag at almost 3200fos and it's shooting groups in the .120-.200 range. It's stupid accurate and a FAST. You might try another bullet because I think you should be able to get close to 3000 fps.

Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2007647
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I'm in the accuracy over speed camp. I don't yet own a chronograph but have access to one. When I worked up my load this year, I found the most accurate load then checked it in the chronograph. The low velocity numbers concerned me but I was getting a five shot group that measures 0.65" out of a 100% stock Remington 700ADL. 30.06, 168gr Berger VLD.

The speed, a snails pace at 2513fps.

It's very slow but I will not have any opportunities past 400 yards which is where it will fall below the required 1800fps for reliable expansion.

During the offseason, I intended to work on my velocity a bit and see if I can get it up without sacrificing the accuracy.

Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2007775
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buddy of mine has a chrono, calls it the "crying machine" from all the folks crying because their loads were way slower than they thought they were. Load data obtained from 26-28" barrels is pretty hard to duplicate in a 22" sporter.


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Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2007776
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and I'll take accuracy over velocity any day, all day.


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Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2007818
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This is a good question.
Now what is the point of fast or slow if it won't hit what youre shooting at??
Accuracy is more important when it comes to shooting whether its on a game animal or target.
Target shooting can win you a trophy/money/recognition
Game shooting can put meat on the table/make for a good mount/give you bragging rites


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Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2007823
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Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2007831
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Y'all are all missing the point. One who hand loads can achieve fast and accurate. That's why you work out all the details. I don't think anyone loads a 5" spread fast load for the shucks of it. I load for speed plus accuracy. So really the whole point of this thread is silly. Go for both.


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Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2008288
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Roy Weatherby made easier to get both of these together.


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Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2008521
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Savage 260 in ultra lite package.. first day at the range before the scope tweaking was finished.. this was just for grouping. My handloads:

Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2008532
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I'm pushing 130gr TTSX 3600fps the faster I pushed them the more accurate they got I stopped at 3600 because I was getting .3 to .5 groups and kinda like this barrel.


Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2013357
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Accuracy is most important but velocity is also a consideration. With many cartridges, especially large capacity cartridges, the best accuracy is often realized at or near maximum velocity. If I can get within 100 FPS of the max listed velocity for a bullet/powder combo, I am usually satisfied if I have excellent accuracy.


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Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: 1bamashooter] #2014694
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Originally Posted By: 1bamashooter
I'm pushing 130gr TTSX 3600fps the faster I pushed them the more accurate they got I stopped at 3600 because I was getting .3 to .5 groups and kinda like this barrel.


.277 or .308 130's?

Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2014747
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270 STW???


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Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: BrentM] #2015794
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Originally Posted By: BrentM

Originally Posted By: 1bamashooter
I'm pushing 130gr TTSX 3600fps the faster I pushed them the more accurate they got I stopped at 3600 because I was getting .3 to .5 groups and kinda like this barrel.


.277 or .308 130's?


.277


Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: 257wbymag] #2015796
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
270 STW???


Yep that's why I didn't need the loaded 7stw from you I'm necking down the 7stw to .277


Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2015812
02/03/17 03:36 PM
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Sweet round!


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Re: Velocity vs accuracy [Re: N2TRKYS] #2015830
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270STW 270WbyMag 270Win


Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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