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Re: An honest Obama question
[Re: Megatrondiablo]
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01/23/17 06:36 AM
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When Obama was running for his first term he coined a few phrases that would outline his goals: 1. Hope and Change 2. Transform America.
Well look at what all happened in 8 years under his administration's direction! A lot changed and the fabric of our nation was transformed. Progressive tactics and successes have been around since the early 1900s, but with Obama in office The Progressive Takeover really ramped up and the plan was for it to continue under Hillary Clinton.
Obama was successful pushing his agendas (well The Progressive Movement Agendas) through Congress, through the courts, and through Executive Orders. He accomplished many things on his self-described list of Change and Transformation.
Now most of us are wise enough to know that what he was doing was horrible for our country. But don't be naive to think he wasn't successful. He was. "To the Victor Goes the Spoils" is a quote from antiquity that sums up Obama's 8 years....he used his power position to further Progressive goals on climate, energy, coal mining, LGBTQ rights, race relations, border security/immigration, the courts, national healthcare, trade, US military reduction, and foreign policy....and a host of other issues.
One of the biggest and yet least talked about accomplishment was the appointment of over 300 Federal Judges to the various courts that are not strict Constitutionalists. That alone will continue to be a thorn in our side for decades!!!!
WE can hate what he has done and what he stands for...but he accomplished many things that he told us he would try to do when he was campaigning in 2006 & 2007. The progress he made on many fronts is why so many liberal progressives are out in protest...they dream of this transformed America making even more progress...that is their life goal and primary focus.
As a result of the several decades of "progress", we are engaged in a battle of not just social and political ideas, but of a Spiritual Nature. The fight for what is good , right, just, noble and honorable in God's eyes (Biblical precepts) VS. Progressive Movement ideals steeped in atheism and moral relativism and self-focus that the Great Deceiver (Satan) is using too cripple the Church and make a relationship with Christ unimportant.
Last edited by straycat; 01/23/17 06:38 AM.
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Re: An honest Obama question
[Re: Megatrondiablo]
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01/23/17 07:14 AM
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1) He's half white, too...not sure you could really call him the "first black" President. Bill Clinton was closer to actually being the first black President that Obeyme.
2) I've always had a hard time with the whole "got bin Laden" thing. I think bin Laden died back around '03, probably of natural causes. It wouldn't take a huge conspiracy to push "we got him", either...SpecOp units are VERY compartmentalized, and if "one hand doesn't know what the other is doing" is true, in the special operations world, it's very often more like "one finger doesn't know what the others are doing". Osama bin Laden was absolutely incapable of walking past a video camera without making some video exhorting all his fellow a$$holes to wage jihad against the Great Satan. In the last couple videos he made, he didn't look well...he obviously had some kind of serious liver issue going on, and I doubt the mountains of Afghanistan are flush with dialysis machines. 2003, the videos stopped abruptly...only a couple audio tapes, after that, that the CIA and NSA couldn't conclusively confirm were actually him, then nothing. Better part of a decade later, all of a sudden, "we got him"?...then immediately buried at sea, with no photos? We all saw pics of Saddam, Kaddafie, Saddam's sons, etc., when they were killed, but the most wanted man in the world since Hitler gets dumped at sea the next day, with no pics? I doubt it...
Back to the original question, though...the good thing he did in 8 years was to make it easier for Trump to beat Clinton. Obama's legacy IS Donald Trump. How good that is remains to be seen, but it's already way better than it would've been had hildabeast won the election.
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Re: An honest Obama question
[Re: Megatrondiablo]
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01/23/17 05:11 PM
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If I remember correctly he signed a bill that allowed us to carry loaded weapons in national parks. And that's it.
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Re: An honest Obama question
[Re: Megatrondiablo]
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01/23/17 05:20 PM
01/23/17 05:20 PM
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LOL Eskimo he also signed a bill making it illegal to use lead projectiles on WMA's and national Parks. DoA, wasn't there a lot of speculation around 03 about Bin laden needing dialysis ? No kidney machines in caves.
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Re: An honest Obama question
[Re: BrentM]
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01/23/17 06:51 PM
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Should have brought Bin Laden back over here and fed his corpse to a bunch of hogs on prime time TV. Brutality and fear are the only things those savages over there understand That's what I'm saying...they didn't bring his corpse back, because they didn't have his corpse. To be sure, they had A corpse, just not Osama bin Laden's. Keep in mind, this is the same administration that ordered a QRF to stand down, instead of having them go to the Embassy in Benghazi and seeing weapons there that weren't supposed to be there. ...AND the same administration that tracked down the producer of a video and locked him up to further the lie that the attack on the Embassy was the result of a spontaneous demonstration protesting that video. The same administration that allowed straw purchases of firearms to go unchecked under the premise of tracking those firearms to "catch bigger fish", then called for more gun control when one of those firearms was recovered in the subsequent investigation into the murder of a Border Patrol officer. The same administration who labelled Cambridge campus police as having acted "stupidly" because they arrested a black professor for disorderly conduct. The same administration who declared that Trayvon Martin could've been his son. The same administration that defended Michael Brown when he was shot and killed while attacking a police officer. The same administration that was WRONG on every single decision, every single issue, and every single "project" it fielded.
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Re: An honest Obama question
[Re: DEADorALIVE]
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01/23/17 06:57 PM
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1) He's half white, too...not sure you could really call him the "first black" President. Bill Clinton was closer to actually being the first black President that Obeyme.
2) I've always had a hard time with the whole "got bin Laden" thing. I think bin Laden died back around '03, probably of natural causes. It wouldn't take a huge conspiracy to push "we got him", either...SpecOp units are VERY compartmentalized, and if "one hand doesn't know what the other is doing" is true, in the special operations world, it's very often more like "one finger doesn't know what the others are doing". Osama bin Laden was absolutely incapable of walking past a video camera without making some video exhorting all his fellow a$$holes to wage jihad against the Great Satan. In the last couple videos he made, he didn't look well...he obviously had some kind of serious liver issue going on, and I doubt the mountains of Afghanistan are flush with dialysis machines. 2003, the videos stopped abruptly...only a couple audio tapes, after that, that the CIA and NSA couldn't conclusively confirm were actually him, then nothing. Better part of a decade later, all of a sudden, "we got him"?...then immediately buried at sea, with no photos? We all saw pics of Saddam, Kaddafie, Saddam's sons, etc., when they were killed, but the most wanted man in the world since Hitler gets dumped at sea the next day, with no pics? I doubt it...
Back to the original question, though...the good thing he did in 8 years was to make it easier for Trump to beat Clinton. Obama's legacy IS Donald Trump. How good that is remains to be seen, but it's already way better than it would've been had hildabeast won the election. This all day long!!!
Remember it not about the catch or the kill, it’s about the creation and GOD’s will........Blayne Moore
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Re: An honest Obama question
[Re: Megatrondiablo]
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01/23/17 09:25 PM
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Last time I checked (Google, 15 seconds ago), Cuba was still ruled by a communist dictatorship.
Well behaved women never make history.~ Out back Quit laughing...I think I broke something.
Fifteen is my limit on Schnitzen-Gruben, Baby...
I have OCD and ADD, so everything has to be perfect, but only for a minute.
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Re: An honest Obama question
[Re: Megatrondiablo]
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01/23/17 10:53 PM
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Obama wasn't the first black president ,,,, his mamma was white,,
Darn near every black preacher around the country was hotter than a empty tithes pan sitting on a furnace radiator by the picture of Martin Luther king hanging on the wall in church after hearing it said he was the first black president.
He didn't put out the contract on Bin Laden,,, Bush did,,, further more did any of yall see his body ,,?? I sure didn't ,,so who's to say that demon is at the bottom of the ocean.
I don't know of any good things he accomplished,, if yall know of any I'd like to read about it here.
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Re: An honest Obama question
[Re: BrentM]
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01/24/17 03:27 AM
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Should have brought Bin Laden back over here and fed his corpse to a bunch of hogs on prime time TV. Brutality and fear are the only things those savages over there understand Can't bring back something they didn't have
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