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Trespasser: Updated #2001285
01/23/17 09:15 AM
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Whats the proper procedure when encountering a trespasser. How can you identify said law breaker ?

Last edited by LetOff; 01/24/17 10:17 AM.

Ain't nothing a sharp knife can't fix
Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: LetOff] #2001286
01/23/17 09:18 AM
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Turn GPS indexing on your phone on then take lots of pics when you meet up with them ... Take to the GW, all the info needed to convict them will be in the pics

I personally wouldn't risk a jail sentence on a $100 camera ... just sayin wink




I don't want to pass quietly into the night. I want to slide in sideways kickin and screamin
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Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: Rocket62] #2001316
01/23/17 09:39 AM
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No way I would risk missing with a pistol. Use your rifle!


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Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: LetOff] #2001526
01/23/17 12:36 PM
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I wish somebody could answer this. It is a good question. I figured the bhamFred fellow would know or any other leo we have here.

Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: LetOff] #2001531
01/23/17 12:41 PM
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Step 1. Hold them at gun-point with the safety off.
Step 2. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over.
Step 3. Break at least one knee and one elbow.
Step 4. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over.
Step 5. Call LEO's and tell them that you found an injured hunter and please send paramedics.
Step 6. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over until you hear sirens.
Step 7. Go get back into your stand and hope that the LEO's, Paramedics, and sirens will run a deer past your stand.


IKNOWMYPHUCKINGCODEDAMMITYOUDICKHEAD!!!
Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2001716
01/23/17 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: Big Game Hunter
Step 1. Hold them at gun-point with the safety off.
Step 2. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over.
Step 3. Break at least one knee and one elbow.
Step 4. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over.
Step 5. Call LEO's and tell them that you found an injured hunter and please send paramedics.
Step 6. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over until you hear sirens.
Step 7. Go get back into your stand and hope that the LEO's, Paramedics, and sirens will run a deer past your stand.



Now that is Seven Steps to success!

Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2001728
01/23/17 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: Big Game Hunter
Step 1. Hold them at gun-point with the safety off.
Step 2. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over.
Step 3. Break at least one knee and one elbow.
Step 4. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over.
Step 5. Call LEO's and tell them that you found an injured hunter and please send paramedics.
Step 6. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over until you hear sirens.
Step 7. Go get back into your stand and hope that the LEO's, Paramedics, and sirens will run a deer past your stand.



One of the best pieces of advices one could receive.

Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2001800
01/23/17 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: Big Game Hunter
Step 1. Hold them at gun-point with the safety off.
Step 2. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over.
Step 3. Break at least one knee and one elbow.
Step 4. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over.
Step 5. Call LEO's and tell them that you found an injured hunter and please send paramedics.
Step 6. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over until you hear sirens.
Step 7. Go get back into your stand and hope that the LEO's, Paramedics, and sirens will run a deer past your stand.


You left out a step.
Strip him naked and whip him with saw briars.


Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: Turkey_neck] #2001825
01/23/17 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: Turkey_neck
Originally Posted By: Big Game Hunter
Step 1. Hold them at gun-point with the safety off.
Step 2. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over.
Step 3. Break at least one knee and one elbow.
Step 4. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over.
Step 5. Call LEO's and tell them that you found an injured hunter and please send paramedics.
Step 6. Kick them in the balls over and over and over and over until you hear sirens.
Step 7. Go get back into your stand and hope that the LEO's, Paramedics, and sirens will run a deer past your stand.


You left out a step.
Strip him naked and whip him with saw briars.
And that is supposed to be AFTER the all-important step of keeping said trespasser in a years old, abandoned well for a few weeks, all the while ordering him to "put the lotion on it's skin, or it gets the hose again".

Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: LetOff] #2001826
01/23/17 03:59 PM
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I can tell you what I usually did when I was off duty. I let em get as close as possible, stood up or stepped out, rifle or shotgun on them, and in a loud voice told em to sit down. I them took their gun and told em show me some ID. Rarely had one argue or refuse to follow LOUD DIRECT voice commands. Then I would write em a ticket and tell em leave and not come back.

I caught two fellas on morning right at first light turkey hunting as they climbed the bank of the Tombigbee from their boat to poach. 20 yards off the river bank as they drew even with me I told em that was far enough in a LOUD COMMANDING voice. I told em to put their guns down. Front guy whispers something to the other guy. I punch the safety off LOUDLY and tell him I have 3" mag #2s aimed his way and will cut his stupid ass in half. He put the gun down. He wanted to know if I was going to call a GW..well no I wasn't. LOL Wrote em, made em call the boat in and wrote him and told em get going.

I was guiding a fella one morning on a fairly large property. Landowner was "supposed" to be on the other side of the place, guiding someone else. We were maybe 200 yards from the property line when someone shot less than 100 yards from us, towards the line. I took the fellas gun and started towards the shot. He asked if I wanted him to go , I said hell no, I don't want any witnesses. As I crept up the hill I spotted a buck kicking maybe 30 yards in front of me. I belly slid closer, head down. I saw someone coming, and stood as they reached the deer...SHOUTING "GET ON THE GROUND". Landowner and fella he was guiding hit the dirt. LOL Seems they decided to come over by us without telling us, forgot where we were, saw a deer and shot it. Never was any question after that about what I would do if I found a poacher...

and I damn sure ain't advising any of ya'll to do it my way. It can be dangerous and you better be damn prepared to follow thru. Scares the chitt out of the poachers though...they NEVER come back.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: LetOff] #2002199
01/23/17 06:15 PM
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Confidence, calmness and assertiveness go a long ways!!!
Especially when you have the drop on em...... lol

Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: LetOff] #2002547
01/24/17 05:23 AM
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What are you legally allowed to do if you catch a poacher on your property?

Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: chevydude2015] #2002550
01/24/17 05:25 AM
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I've been wondering this myself. Can you legally draw down on someone?


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-G. K. Chesterton
Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: LetOff] #2002650
01/24/17 07:09 AM
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Tar n feather his ass


Originally Posted by Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: LetOff] #2002737
01/24/17 08:53 AM
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I've placed a call to my local GW, talked to the lady answering the phone because she asked the situation. She said that he would probably want to come down there and work the area and catch them himself.
Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, I told her I got three good 8 pointers and one big 10pt on camera and I didnt want him roaming around there, especially when I'm taking off to hunt here the last 2 weeks. My goal is to kill these deer, not run them off trying to catch a worthless poacher, thus the reason for my call. I'm not asking for his help physically, how is the law in my favor and what can I do legally.
She said she will relay the message and he will definately call me back today.

Will keep you updated on his take of the proper procedure when encountering a poacher said trespasser.


Ain't nothing a sharp knife can't fix
Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: LetOff] #2002834
01/24/17 10:16 AM
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First, I got the info on contacting my GW here:
http://www.aldeer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=529784

So my local GW called me back. Super nice guy but not many suggestions I didnt already know or that I thought would help me but I appreciate his input. Here's my convo:

Me: I've caught trespasser on my land by trailcam, no front pic, just back as they have walked away. I'm at location x and own x acres of land. What can I do to identify him/them if I run up on them? I'm smart enough to know pulling a gun could get me in serious trouble.

GW: First thing I would do is call the game watch line (1-800-272-4263) because a game warden will answer this line always, may not be me but he will contact me immediately. If possible, leave them hunting and we'll go in and get them.

Me: What if I run up on them ? Ask for id and they refuse.

GW: Well, they have to be identified in order for the warrant to be issued. You could take pic or video with cell. As long as we get a face, there's a good chance we can identify them. Then we can arrest them with the warrant.

GW: Do you know where they are coming from ? (He starts naming land marks so I know he is very familiar with the area)

Me: Yes (and I tell him)

GW: That is going to be coming from x hunting club and I am familiar with them. (He spoke like they were not familiar with him). Here's what I suggest you do and I know you have had a couple trail cams stolen. Put your trail cams up high where they will not be seen easily from the ground, most are caught this way. All I need is a face and I'll be able to identify them, issue the warrant and arrest them.

Me: What is the penalty for first time offense being caught on my property ?

GW: Well, the offense is actually called "Hunting without permission" and carries an arrest and a $1000 fine, its pretty stiff and for a reason. If by chance you do run into them, call that number I gave you, we can be there very quickly and will catch them. They will not do it again, I can promise you that. The other thing I can do is work the area but you tell me you dont want that because I'll ruin your hunt this coming 2 weeks so I cant do that.

Thanked him for his time, he gave me another number I could contact him if I couldn't reach him from the one he was calling me from.

There ya go, straight from the horses mouth.

Last edited by LetOff; 01/24/17 11:24 AM. Reason: added game watch line phone number to post

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Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: LetOff] #2002847
01/24/17 10:26 AM
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Sounds like he's told you all that he can do with you not wanting him on your land.

You have to decide whether you potentially want a shot at those deer, or want the trespasser caught. Keep in mind, the trespasser could kill all 3 deer and not get caught if you decide you don't want the GW to keep watch.

Last edited by SouthBamaSlayer; 01/24/17 10:27 AM.
Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: LetOff] #2002881
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Originally Posted By: LetOff
I told her I got three good 8 pointers and one big 10pt on camera and I didnt want him roaming around there, especially when I'm taking off to hunt here the last 2 weeks. My goal is to kill these deer



Honestly, you have no right to complain about poachers if you aren't willing to let the GW help.


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Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: LetOff] #2002903
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I'm hoping what I just did doesn't get analyzed to death (scolding me), I wont react very well to that.
I didn't call for his physical help, I called to find out what I can do, looking for suggestions in how to identify a trespasser. I made that clear to him right off the bat.
I got the answer and figured as much. I first posted for answers and examples for me and now posting for others interested in the correct answer from GW himself because sooner or later, one of us might run up on someone on our land and need to know. Even though we all took it in humor, pulling out a gun in any situation means someone has a great chance at seeing Jesus sooner than they expected.

Your absolutely right about them killing the deer and its a chance I'm willing to take cause I'm due for a big buck. Believe me, when I discovered my cam was stolen on my Sunday hunt, I've searched deep in my heart about what to do.

But if a shot goes off in the next two weeks starting friday, they'll be caught.


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Re: You freakin trespasser !!! Give me your ID ! [Re: LetOff] #2002908
01/24/17 11:22 AM
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If you don't let the GW catch them this hunting season you will have the same problem next season.

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