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Re: Another misunderstood dog attack
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01/20/17 10:04 AM
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Irresponsible sums it up, well stated recurve. If they were more responsible and kept those beast pinned or chained there would be a lot less of these hideous attacks on innocent pedestrians. I have known plenty of Doberman/German Shepherd/etc owners and none of them were this way. They are considered by some as "dangerous breeds" and have done their fair share to earn that reputation. I don't know why its just pits that seem to attract so many morons, but they do. Common problem down south is the Black community, they take these dogs (and breed with whatever) chain um up (As reloader suggested) and rarely feed or gets any interaction with humans other than teasing an abuse. Then one day said dog gets loose bad very bad..Now my ole boy will break is cable at least once a year, and he goes nxt door because my neighbor she'll feed him hotdogs
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Re: Another misunderstood dog attack
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01/20/17 10:50 AM
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reload I'm just pointing out its been over a year and you aint learned yet to butt out of things that dont concern you or quit telling outlandish tales. Goes to credibility so to speak.
Clark funny how you quoted him and not the initial aggressor, try to keep it fair would ya buddy. Hey, I ain't prejudice,we got room in the ring for everyone.
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Re: Another misunderstood dog attack
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01/20/17 12:16 PM
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reload I'm just pointing out its been over a year and you aint learned yet to butt out of things that dont concern you or quit telling outlandish tales. Goes to credibility so to speak.
Clark funny how you quoted him and not the initial aggressor, try to keep it fair would ya buddy. Hey, I ain't prejudice,we got room in the ring for everyone. Naw, y'all done thinned them damn pit owners down. Well they still own, alot just don't wanna talk about it no mo. But I like talking bout mine.
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Re: Another misunderstood dog attack
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01/20/17 12:47 PM
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I know you said there was no such thing as Bigfoot. But tell the truth....You done seen a squatch before, haven't you?
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Re: Another misunderstood dog attack
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01/20/17 01:55 PM
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In my line of work I go into a lot of houses. I seen a lot of pits that have been tied to a tree wth a log chain eating the dirt to get to me. I have also seen some that are good natured. One the other day was loose in the yard, so I eased out of the truck and she started wagging her tail. Petted her and just followed me around. I won't own one, but there are some good ones out there The thing that bothers me the most is that I've read several accounts where owners said they raised them their selves, and they never showed any aggression at all until they killed his son or daughter. You might expect that they were drug dealers and just didn't pay attention,or were lying about the dog being aggressive. One case though the owner was a cop and another an older couple where the dog killed their granddaughter. You can say all you want about different breeds biting and them not being full pitt or whatever, but you don't hear about other breeds doing that. I don't think either that it's because the media is biases against pits. We can all argue all day but in the end we should all agree that we don't want any dog killing kids and we should see if there's anything we can do to help prevent it.
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Re: Another misunderstood dog attack
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01/20/17 05:51 PM
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They are good, till they aren't. It's too late then. They are a ticking time bomb. Maybe it's inbred that they flip out one day and kill. Either way not worth a chance. Get a wiener dog, you never read about them killing anyone unless it's licking them to death.
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Re: Another misunderstood dog attack
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01/20/17 06:14 PM
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Hey Perch ain't it time change your signature line?
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Re: Another misunderstood dog attack
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01/20/17 06:20 PM
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GOOD POINT Avenge ! Thanks
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Another misunderstood dog attack
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01/21/17 07:24 AM
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I don't wanna fight anyone, to old for that. Up until about 10 years ago though I'd rather fight than eat. I just hate to hear people talk about all this banning this and that. I'm more for holding individuals accountable
I don't even own one anymore and haven't in a few years when I got to where I didn't have time to chase pigs often enough to need them. The only dog we have now wouldn't stand a chance with a half grown squirrel but if I wanted another pit and I'm a responsible owner who keeps my dog under control, that's my right
I grew up with pits and also owned many other breeds, curs ( Kemmers, OMC and Catahoula) always were likely to be the most aggressive dogs that I owned. I had a big male catahoula that wanted to kill everything that breathed except me to the point that I could not hunt him with other people or dogs and finally just had to stop hunting him because he wouldn't hunt but simply catch and kill everything in his path and you'd never know it unless you heard the fight or he came back needing stitches.
My first Kemmer was a gift from Mr. Kemmer who I grew up hunting with, if that dog bayed a hog it was his hog period, if you sent a catch dog to his bay, he would forget the hog and try to kill the catch dog and on 2 occasions did so. He also killed a friends grown bull mastiff who thought he wanted to pick a fight.
My ex wife had a cocker that would eat you up for no reason, people would come to the house and while they were walking on tip toes and worrying about a bulldog or Rottweiler that may be loose, we were trying to catch the cocker that would be stalking for the kill
Some of the folks on here will probably remember one of the calmest, friendliest, baddest pig grabbing machines I ever met. His name was Ed and he hailed from Coffeville Al. Dog loved to be petted and abused by kids, any kid would do and the harder they jerked his tail and ears, the better he liked it.
I do think that they seem to be chosen by people who shouldn't have children or pets or oxygen for that matter but the breed is not the issue it's the owners and the bad ones should be held accountable
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Re: Another misunderstood dog attack
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01/21/17 07:58 AM
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I don't wanna fight anyone, to old for that. Up until about 10 years ago though I'd rather fight than eat. I just hate to hear people talk about all this banning this and that. I'm more for holding individuals accountable
I don't even own one anymore and haven't in a few years when I got to where I didn't have time to chase pigs often enough to need them. The only dog we have now wouldn't stand a chance with a half grown squirrel but if I wanted another pit and I'm a responsible owner who keeps my dog under control, that's my right
I grew up with pits and also owned many other breeds, curs ( Kemmers, OMC and Catahoula) always were likely to be the most aggressive dogs that I owned. I had a big male catahoula that wanted to kill everything that breathed except me to the point that I could not hunt him with other people or dogs and finally just had to stop hunting him because he wouldn't hunt but simply catch and kill everything in his path and you'd never know it unless you heard the fight or he came back needing stitches.
My first Kemmer was a gift from Mr. Kemmer who I grew up hunting with, if that dog bayed a hog it was his hog period, if you sent a catch dog to his bay, he would forget the hog and try to kill the catch dog and on 2 occasions did so. He also killed a friends grown bull mastiff who thought he wanted to pick a fight.
My ex wife had a cocker that would eat you up for no reason, people would come to the house and while they were walking on tip toes and worrying about a bulldog or Rottweiler that may be loose, we were trying to catch the cocker that would be stalking for the kill
Some of the folks on here will probably remember one of the calmest, friendliest, baddest pig grabbing machines I ever met. His name was Ed and he hailed from Coffeville Al. Dog loved to be petted and abused by kids, any kid would do and the harder they jerked his tail and ears, the better he liked it.
I do think that they seem to be chosen by people who shouldn't have children or pets or oxygen for that matter but the breed is not the issue it's the owners and the bad ones should be held accountable A very well thought out and sensible reply on a subject that seems to bring out the worst in many of us. I would agree with most of what you said here. The only thing that concerns me are the accounts where regular people,not hood rats, have had the dogs suddenly turn aggressive. They say the dogs never displayed aggressive behavior before. I know any dog can suddenly bite that has never bitten anyone before but biting isn't the issue that troubles me. What troubles me is that the dogs have attacked so viciously as to kill the owners or their children. That just doesn't happen with most breeds. It can with some of the larger breeds but the statistics show the likelihood of it happening with pits several times greater. I can surly see the benefit of this type dog in specialized situations but it seems to me that anyone should be able to see the possible danger of owning one for a pet,especially where children are present.
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Re: Another misunderstood dog attack
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01/21/17 08:14 AM
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Clark When people say the dog never showed aggression, to me that don't hold water. Cause most people don't know that much about dogs. You should check out the dog whisperer for a start. 2nd I don't put much faith in them statistics y'all love to quote. Alot are generated by news articles and idiots. I'm sure we can all agree the news either outright lies or there so uneducated it ridiculous. How many articles have you seen were they were talking about guns and were so far off it wasn't funny. To prove this I ask one question. And if you or anyone else will give it serious thought it may help. How has this breed lived and been loved by man for 500 years and once considered the "Nanny dog" just recently become such a vicious beast. Answer that for me please.
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Re: Another misunderstood dog attack
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01/21/17 08:50 AM
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Clark When people say the dog never showed aggression, to me that don't hold water. Cause most people don't know that much about dogs. You should check out the dog whisperer for a start. 2nd I don't put much faith in them statistics y'all love to quote. Alot are generated by news articles and idiots. I'm sure we can all agree the news either outright lies or there so uneducated it ridiculous. How many articles have you seen were they were talking about guns and were so far off it wasn't funny. To prove this I ask one question. And if you or anyone else will give it serious thought it may help. How has this breed lived and been loved by man for 500 years and once considered the "Nanny dog" just recently become such a vicious beast. Answer that for me please. I don't know. Maybe there is a new trait added that wasn't there 50 years ago. Maybe it's something in the air or the water. Why was there never any mass school shootings before Columbine? I do not believe however that it's all just lies made up by the media.
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Re: Another misunderstood dog attack
[Re: Bustinbeards]
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01/21/17 09:26 AM
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That's not an answer Clark, the columbine is a bad example too. It's a simple question.
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