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Shooting a Compound Instinctively #1992655
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Any of you fellers shoot this way with your compound, or have done so successfully in the past? Just curious. Ran across a few of the older Dan Fitzgerald videos this weekend and it got me wondering how many folks do this besides them.

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I couldn't hit the side of the barn trying to do it that way.

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two of my friends do it that way and are deadly.


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If it wasn't for taking shots past 20 yards, I wouldn't have a sight on my bow.


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I played around a little with a recurve last year, and got to where I could hit a pie plate consistently at 20 yards. Never really confident enough to hunt with it. I sold it and went back to the compound this year with sights. I'm thinking about trying to learn to shoot a little this off-season instinctively with a bare compound.

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You couldn't hardly shoot with fingers with the new short bows. Finger pinch would be terrible. I've shot older compounds instinctively.

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One of the issues with traditional bows is consistent form/draw length. On a compound that typically is not an issue. However, release and arrow spine become very important if you shoot with fingers.

I've known several people that shot compounds instinctively and were deadly.

Good luck!


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I used to have one I played around with. It was easier than using a recurve. It was an old steel cables bow though and when one of the teardrops broke I just never fixed it. It was a longer bow than some of these newer ones, put a NAP center rest on it and I was decent to 30. I shoot recurves and long bows pretty much daily though. It takes a commitment to become proficient same as with a recurve, you just have the let off and flatter trajectory of the arrow. I could keep rambling but I won't. Try it it's fun. Just make sure you have a good backstop&#128512;

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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
You couldn't hardly shoot with fingers with the new short bows. Finger pinch would be terrible. I've shot older compounds instinctively.


Why would you shoot with fingers? You can shoot instinctive with a release. Gap shooting you would need to revert to fingers.

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Originally Posted By: Atoler
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You couldn't hardly shoot with fingers with the new short bows. Finger pinch would be terrible. I've shot older compounds instinctively.


Why would you shoot with fingers? You can shoot instinctive with a release. Gap shooting you would need to revert to fingers.


what I was thinking..

I always thought "shooting instinctively" just meant you have a 30 yard pin that is on. You know you shoot this much high at 37 or this much low at 22. etc.

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I used to shoot recurves some when I was a kid. Haven't touched one in years, only compounds. I wouldn't trust my instinctive shooting if my life depended on it.

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I do when I'm bowfishing. But that's a 10yrd shot max.

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Originally Posted By: Atoler
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You couldn't hardly shoot with fingers with the new short bows. Finger pinch would be terrible. I've shot older compounds instinctively.


Why would you shoot with fingers? You can shoot instinctive with a release. Gap shooting you would need to revert to fingers.


Don't know why you couldn't gap shoot with a release.

My point was that the only reason to shoot instinctively in the first place would be if you wanted to simplify things. I suppose you could do that any way you want. People use to shoot recurves with releases and sights and arrow rests or any combination.You could do the same with a compound except that short compounds would make finger shooting very difficult because of string angle.

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Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: Atoler
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You couldn't hardly shoot with fingers with the new short bows. Finger pinch would be terrible. I've shot older compounds instinctively.


Why would you shoot with fingers? You can shoot instinctive with a release. Gap shooting you would need to revert to fingers.


what I was thinking..

I always thought "shooting instinctively" just meant you have a 30 yard pin that is on. You know you shoot this much high at 37 or this much low at 22. etc.


It means shooting without aiming or aiming devices at all/without using a point of reference. I don’t worry about distance at all when I shoot. I just know the arrow is going where I’m looking. As for the question, I only use a recurve and shoot it instinctively. I assume I could do the same with a compound, but I haven’t really tried.


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My understanding of purely instinctive shooting is akin to throwing a baseball. It's something you just learn to do that is hard to explain how it works.

I'm sure there's someone a lot smarter than I who can scientifically explain what goes on, ha.

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It has everything to do with hand/eye/brain coordination. An old adage with instinctive shooting is a really good instinctive shooter should be able to snuff a candle out in total darkness without being able to see his hands or the arrow. I think the easiest way to explain it is that you can point your finger at that flame in total darkness and while pointing, turn on the lights and find yourself right at it more times than not. That’s instinctive shooting in a nut shell.

But, there’s also an old adage that “I’d rather see a bowhunter shoot a compound well than a stick bow poorly.” There’s no shame in aiming.


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Excellent explanation. ^^^


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There's a lot of debate about instinctive shooting VS aiming. I shoot recurves and longbows without sights and without a release but I aim. I don't take conscious thought about where my arrow tip is but it is definitely a reference point for left ,right and height.

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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
There's a lot of debate about instinctive shooting VS aiming. I shoot recurves and longbows without sights and without a release but I aim. I don't take conscious thought about where my arrow tip is but it is definitely a reference point for left ,right and height.


That's probably the way a majority of trad bowhunters shoot.


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I shoot a longbow instinctive and do pretty good to 20 yards as well. Past 20 yards and it's a crap shoot. I'm left eye dominant, shooting right handed with both eyes open. Some of the trad guys I've shot around don't see how I do it. grin


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