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Re: Finally caught up with the big black male COYOTE [Re: Mbrock] #1937971
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Congrats Matt!

Very interesting reading in this thread too! Kill em all!!!!!!


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Re: Finally caught up with the big black male COYOTE [Re: Mbrock] #1938359
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I saw a black yote, not near as pretty as Matts, killed in Hale Co 1981 er so that I weighed at 55 pounds.


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Re: Finally caught up with the big black male COYOTE [Re: Mbrock] #1938464
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I screwed the pooch once and missed 2 black coyotes in one day with my bow. One had the white blaze chest, but one was solid black.


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Re: Finally caught up with the big black male COYOTE [Re: BhamFred] #1938578
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
I saw a black yote, not near as pretty as Matts, killed in Hale Co 1981 er so that I weighed at 55 pounds.

THANK YOU, BhamFred! Tons of people don't believe they were here, back then. I saw my first Alabama coyote the first time I ever deer hunted in Alabama, in 1976. My buddy's cousin (older fella) pulled up and said he'd shot a German Shepard...the area where we were hunting is all family land, and they all knew each other and knew dogs that belonged/didn't belong in the area. I looked in the back of his truck. It was a +/- 75 yd headshot with a 30-06, so there wasn't much there forward of the ears, but the legs and his tail told the tale. I said "That's a coyote." All the older guys laughed at me and said there are no coyotes around here. Opening day of the season in 1976 marked the 6 month anniversary of my Dad's retirement from the USAF, and the ceremony was is Wichita Falls, Texas, where we'd lived for the previous year. At 13, I'd seen a coyote or two, before, and that headless, dead animal laying in the back of Archie's truck was a coyote.


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Re: Finally caught up with the big black male COYOTE [Re: Mbrock] #1939516
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Gorgeously beautiful animal, Matt.

No way that I would NOT mount it.

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Re: Finally caught up with the big black male COYOTE [Re: Mbrock] #1939795
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Pretty yote. Congrats.

What is the population of yotes like where you killed this one? Back in the mid 80's, when we had very few yotes, I saw more "off" colored ones. I haven't seen one here that wasn't the normal coyote color in over 15 years.

I agree that most interaction with dogs that I have seen with yotes has been violent but I've killed hybrids and I've seen dogs and yotes running together. In the late 80's, I was crow hunting and a yote and a bulldog came in together to the crow call. I shot the yote and tried to shoot the bulldog but it got out of range too quick. I killed a coydog on our farm about 4 or so years ago. I posted pics of it here. It was normal yote colored but it's coat was at least 3 times as long as normal, especially on it's head and muzzle. I didn't weigh it, but it was big.


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Re: Finally caught up with the big black male COYOTE [Re: Mbrock] #1953103
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I think it's availability of other coyotes as to whether they breed with dogs. I had a problem with wild dogs and coyotes. I killed a coy dog cross of chow and coyote. It had a black tongue and was with a full blood coyote. I would say it was in the 40lb range. I also shot a Shepard cross but didn't kill it and it was big.

Re: Finally caught up with the big black male COYOTE [Re: Mbrock] #1954153
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Too cool man, congrats!


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Re: Finally caught up with the big black male COYOTE [Re: PeytonG] #1954179
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Re: Finally caught up with the big black male COYOTE [Re: Mbrock] #1954974
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Very nice looking yote. I would have at least kept the pelt if not stuffed it.


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Re: Finally caught up with the big black male [Re: Mbrock] #1955023
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Re: Finally caught up with the big black male [Re: Mbrock] #1958398
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Great kill, Matt!

The first coyote I ever saw was caught in one of my fox sets in 1979 in Perry co. I had no idea we had any in the area, and was sure surprised when I drove up on her that morning. Caught her in a 1.5 coil spring on a rear foot. She weighed 55 lbs and there was another one traveling with her with a slightly bigger foot that assumed was a male. She was colored just like the normal phase and I didn't realize 55 lbs was big for a coyote.

There was a traveling fur buyer that had been buying in Selma the day before and I found his motel and tried to sell it to him. He confirmed that it was a coyote, but said he had little demand for the fur and offered me $20. I turned it down, took it home and skinned and stretched it. I had to make a wooden stretcher; didn't have a wire one big enough to fit. When it dried I shipped it off and got $10 for it. Oh well.

The first few coyotes I saw in the woods looked much bigger than the ones I see now. I have no explanation for that. The Wilcox Progressive Era ran a pic of something killed in 1975 that they identified as a red wolf. I've forgotten that weight, but it was much bigger than the coyotes we have today. I had a friend in school who was taking a wildlife class who told his prof about it and he scoffed at the idea it was a red wolf; said it had to have been a coyote.


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I've killed several upwards of 40-50 in my life but always around a working farm where there was plenty to eat. For some runt out in the pine woods of Alabama anything over 30lbs is probably a "big" one and they are typically are less than 30.

I have seen a red fox that would go 20, but he was a professional chicken thief and looked about like a fat beagle except for the place the snare bout had him pinched in 2 pieces... grin

As far as crossing with dogs I don't know how regular that is, but they sure seem to act like a house dog as I reach over with the end of my barrel and put one right between their eyes. So I don't know. Always seemed real likely to me based on that. I'm not expert.


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Re: Finally caught up with the big black male [Re: Mbrock] #1962429
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Congrats!

I killed a black one if Fayette Co two years ago probably not to far from where that one was killed.


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Originally Posted By: mike35549
Congrats!

I killed a black one if Fayette Co two years ago probably not to far from where that one was killed.


I betcha it wasn't far. Dad killed one last year that wasn't as nice as this one, and we have two more on camera that are young.

Re: Finally caught up with the big black male [Re: Mbrock] #1983642
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Will a dog run with a yote? The reason I ask is I saw a yote and running with it was an dog/ yote with a lot of white around the front of him. One of the members had already shot him in the front leg. I couldn't get a shot because I was bowhunting

Re: Finally caught up with the big black male [Re: Mbrock] #1983861
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If they're lucky, they can run with the coyotes. If they're not so lucky, they get turned into coyote turds. Coy-dogs have a reputation for being bigger, more aggressive and less shy of people.


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