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Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: Myerz] #1958828
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Originally Posted By: Myerz
Thanks yall - that does make a lot of sense. So what do yall do?? Not put corn or supplemental feed out or put it out and hope to get lucky and/or patiently wait for the rut??


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Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: Myerz] #1958831
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Originally Posted By: Myerz
Thanks yall - that does make a lot of sense. So what do yall do?? Not put corn or supplemental feed out or put it out and hope to get lucky and/or patiently wait for the rut??


No. I use peanuts now laugh


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Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: Reno] #1958844
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Originally Posted By: Reno
A pile of corn poured on the ground isnt natural.. deer in alabama know this. They will associate it with hunters. Obviously if you pressure any food source, deer will avoid it whether its acorns, row crops or whatever.

Maybe we hunt different, but i try to get close as i can to deer. Its alot easier to kill a deer close that is at ease, not one that comes in looking for danger.. which a deer will associate with a pile of corn.


Ha........ Giving those deer wayyyyy too much credit. Do they know I planted the food plot?

Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: jmj120] #1958847
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Originally Posted By: jmj120
Originally Posted By: Reno
A pile of corn poured on the ground isnt natural.. deer in alabama know this. They will associate it with hunters. Obviously if you pressure any food source, deer will avoid it whether its acorns, row crops or whatever.

Maybe we hunt different, but i try to get close as i can to deer. Its alot easier to kill a deer close that is at ease, not one that comes in looking for danger.. which a deer will associate with a pile of corn.


Ha........ Giving those deer wayyyyy too much credit. Do they know I planted the food plot?


Scout, man, scout!!!!!
That is way less pressure!
Geez, aren't you ever gonna get the hang of this internet hunting stuff?

Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: jmj120] #1958894
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Originally Posted By: jmj120
Originally Posted By: Reno
A pile of corn poured on the ground isnt natural.. deer in alabama know this. They will associate it with hunters. Obviously if you pressure any food source, deer will avoid it whether its acorns, row crops or whatever.

Maybe we hunt different, but i try to get close as i can to deer. Its alot easier to kill a deer close that is at ease, not one that comes in looking for danger.. which a deer will associate with a pile of corn.


Ha........ Giving those deer wayyyyy too much credit. Do they know I planted the food plot?

Actually I heard an older fellow saying this morning that the deer on his place will come "check" the greenfields for grass bc he thinks they know what theyre there for so idk - this fellow has a wall full of 130+ class bucks

Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: Myerz] #1958895
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Yall are right there no substitute for doing your homework for sure.

Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: Myerz] #1958928
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A feeder is typically a very small concentrated area, deer get spooked off of it during daylight and they change their behavior to when there is less danger associated with the feeder. Same goes for foodplots Of course a 1/4 acre plot where the deer have been spooked off of it during the daylight hours are going to change behavior too because they will feel more pressure than being on a 10 acre foodplot with the same amount of pressure. So proximity associated with the danger and the time danger is encountered will make the deer change behavior for the local deer, it does not necessarily a deer may get bumped, chased or accidentally come to it at other times.


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Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: Fun4all] #1958962
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Originally Posted By: Fun4all
A feeder is typically a very small concentrated area, deer get spooked off of it during daylight and they change their behavior to when there is less danger associated with the feeder. Same goes for foodplots Of course a 1/4 acre plot where the deer have been spooked off of it during the daylight hours are going to change behavior too because they will feel more pressure than being on a 10 acre foodplot with the same amount of pressure. So proximity associated with the danger and the time danger is encountered will make the deer change behavior for the local deer, it does not necessarily a deer may get bumped, chased or accidentally come to it at other times.


Thank you for a clear answer and explanation to the question.

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Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: Myerz] #1958976
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They may very well be conditioned over their lifetimes to 'know' that the fields are normally a source of Fall/Winter food.
You reckon they 'know' he plants it to allow him to kill them and come anyway?

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Originally Posted By: Hogwild
They may very well be conditioned over their lifetimes to 'know' that the fields are normally a source of Fall/Winter food.
You reckon they 'know' he plants it to allow him to kill them and come anyway?


hell i know they know i plant them . they watch me go back and forth as they eat persimmons at 2:00 when its 95 degrees . rofl

Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: Myerz] #1959341
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I reckon the deer around our farm are smarter than y'alls deer are. Our deer are mostly nocturnal 24/7/365. I rarely get day time pictures whether it's June or January. The only thing that gets them on their feet around here is cold weather and the rut.


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Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: Myerz] #1959392
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That's how it is around here too. Has been as long as I can remember. I just thought it was normal. If they weren't a primarily nocturnal animal it probably wouldn't be illegal to shoot em at night. They're probably walking around in my front yard right now

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We see a lot of the same deer in our greenfields during the day that we see at night over our corn/protien feeders. Regardless, the old smarter bucks seem to avoid both as soon as hunting season ramps up. So we try to hunt smarter and we get lucky sometimes. The big bucks usually start showing back up on our feeder cams once the season is out.

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I have always viewed big, mature bucks as nocturnal creatures who live their entire lives as Vampires.


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Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: Fun4all] #1959749
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Originally Posted By: Fun4all
A feeder is typically a very small concentrated area, deer get spooked off of it during daylight and they change their behavior to when there is less danger associated with the feeder. Same goes for foodplots Of course a 1/4 acre plot where the deer have been spooked off of it during the daylight hours are going to change behavior too because they will feel more pressure than being on a 10 acre foodplot with the same amount of pressure. So proximity associated with the danger and the time danger is encountered will make the deer change behavior for the local deer, it does not necessarily a deer may get bumped, chased or accidentally come to it at other times.


Horsesheet. Go to most any home on Pike Road, they've got corn feeders in the back yard. Most folks I know down there come and go at all hours of the day and night, and see deer at all hours of the day and night. One of the biggest bucks I saw killed last year was shot off a guys back porch as he was heading to work.

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I have always viewed big, mature bucks as nocturnal creatures who live their entire lives as Vampires.


Not all of them, they are all individuals .



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Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: Myerz] #1959896
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So now i wonder (lol) if i fill all my feeders up at night if the deer will start showing up during the daytime bc the pressure wont be there lol - kinda funny question but might make sense....maybe

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Originally Posted By: jmj120
Originally Posted By: Fun4all
A feeder is typically a very small concentrated area, deer get spooked off of it during daylight and they change their behavior to when there is less danger associated with the feeder. Same goes for foodplots Of course a 1/4 acre plot where the deer have been spooked off of it during the daylight hours are going to change behavior too because they will feel more pressure than being on a 10 acre foodplot with the same amount of pressure. So proximity associated with the danger and the time danger is encountered will make the deer change behavior for the local deer, it does not necessarily a deer may get bumped, chased or accidentally come to it at other times.


Horsesheet. Go to most any home on Pike Road, they've got corn feeders in the back yard. Most folks I know down there come and go at all hours of the day and night, and see deer at all hours of the day and night. One of the biggest bucks I saw killed last year was shot off a guys back porch as he was heading to work.


So that brings up a questions in my feeble little mind. How often does he shoot deer off the feeder in his back yard? Was this just an isolated incident because he saw a big buck standing at his feeder that he has never shot a deer from before? Did the deer just mess up and show up 5 minutes to early that day when he thought the danger was not there?
Are those deer used to human presence because they are not threatened 99% of the time? "Horsesheet"? Maybe in that one isolated incident. "Horsesheet" as a general explanation of why deer go nocturnal around feeders, probably not.


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Re: Deer going nocturnal?? [Re: Myerz] #1959966
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Originally Posted By: Myerz
So now i wonder (lol) if i fill all my feeders up at night if the deer will start showing up during the daytime bc the pressure wont be there lol - kinda funny question but might make sense....maybe


I've always joked with my yankee buddies about doing this. I tell them I ride around the property any night I get a chance blasting country music, and only walk in when I'm hunting. They're pretty gullible and I'm sure the folks in their hunting club hate them! Haha

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Bahahahaha thats hilarious!!! But really I have seen and heard when i went to a hunting club meeting with a friend of mine that coon hunts, they were voting on letting him coon hunt that following year and the difference in the number of deer killed at that club was about a 1/3 higher than it was in the last few years. I really wonder if that made the deer move more during the daytime?? Needless to say they voted and hes coon hunting that club year around. Idk really. Maybe him stirring around puts the deer up and has them moving when theres not so much going on (dogs barking and people talking). Kinda crazy to think about

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