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Re: 3 buck rule
[Re: Deerslyer86]
#1946949
12/08/16 05:51 PM
12/08/16 05:51 PM
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Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,188 Chilton County
modoc_333
6 point
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6 point
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Chilton County
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Because they don't REALLY want EVERYONE shooting 3. That would mess up the goal numbers. Any time a limit is set on anything, they have a formula to estimate how many hunters will kill 0, how many will limit out per day, how many will limit out per season, how many will hunt only 1-3 days, how many will hunt A LOT of days, etc, etc. If you let everyone kill all 3 in one day, then more bucks would be killed all season. Those guys that only hunt 1 day per year (maybe a dog drive or a paid hunt) might kill 3 bucks whereas under the current system they would only kill 1 for the season. etc, etc. so, the math looks like it wouldn't matter (and to some hunters it wouldn't), but statewide it would change the numbers. So, they might would have to drop it to 2 instead of 3 or limit how many days you could kill bucks.
-Keith
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Re: 3 buck rule
[Re: modoc_333]
#1946954
12/08/16 05:54 PM
12/08/16 05:54 PM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 21,781 USA
Remington270
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 21,781
USA
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Because they don't REALLY want EVERYONE shooting 3. That would mess up the goal numbers. Any time a limit is set on anything, they have a formula to estimate how many hunters will kill 0, how many will limit out per day, how many will limit out per season, how many will hunt only 1-3 days, how many will hunt A LOT of days, etc, etc. If you let everyone kill all 3 in one day, then more bucks would be killed all season. Those guys that only hunt 1 day per year (maybe a dog drive or a paid hunt) might kill 3 bucks whereas under the current system they would only kill 1 for the season. etc, etc. so, the math looks like it wouldn't matter (and to some hunters it wouldn't), but statewide it would change the numbers. So, they might would have to drop it to 2 instead of 3 or limit how many days you could kill bucks. This guy's got it.
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Re: 3 buck rule
[Re: Shriverswamp]
#1947020
12/08/16 07:16 PM
12/08/16 07:16 PM
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Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,996 Central AL
March15
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,996
Central AL
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All that 3 buck rule done was creat a way for more does to get slaughtered. Give these does days a few more years and number will be in the dumps. Late 99s and early 2000s. We had piles of deer here. Ran dogs and stalked hunted. Every year some big mature bucks got killed. And a lot is small bucks also. But we always had a string deer herd. Now we are lucky to see 1-2 deer every 5-6 sits. In my area anyway. I'm trying to get bigT elected as the deer czar. We have slaughtered the does since the early 2000's. It has taken its toll. If you need meat, shoot a buck!
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Re: 3 buck rule
[Re: eclipse829]
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12/09/16 02:05 AM
12/09/16 02:05 AM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 34,407 Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Boxes Cove
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The state is not interested in growing big deer form us residents. They want to sell more out of state license and realize the revenue that out of state hunters bring. This may have changed , they're awfully interested in catering to the high fence crowd now.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: 3 buck rule
[Re: eclipse829]
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12/09/16 02:59 AM
12/09/16 02:59 AM
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Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 25,402 Tampa
Beer Belly
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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The state is not interested in growing big deer form us residents. They want to sell more out of state license and realize the revenue that out of state hunters bring. The people pushing the decisions are only concerned with keeping their jobs ($, politics, bribes, kickbacks, etc). They certainly are NOT catering to out of state hunters in any way. If they are, please point it out, because I have missed it.
Last edited by Beer Belly; 12/09/16 02:59 AM.
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Re: 3 buck rule
[Re: Deerslyer86]
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12/09/16 03:08 AM
12/09/16 03:08 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,162 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 36,162
alabama
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I've never seen DCNR catering to out of state hunters.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: 3 buck rule
[Re: modoc_333]
#1947283
12/09/16 04:19 AM
12/09/16 04:19 AM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 12,092 Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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Booner
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 12,092
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Because they don't REALLY want EVERYONE shooting 3. That would mess up the goal numbers. Any time a limit is set on anything, they have a formula to estimate how many hunters will kill 0, how many will limit out per day, how many will limit out per season, how many will hunt only 1-3 days, how many will hunt A LOT of days, etc, etc. If you let everyone kill all 3 in one day, then more bucks would be killed all season. Those guys that only hunt 1 day per year (maybe a dog drive or a paid hunt) might kill 3 bucks whereas under the current system they would only kill 1 for the season. etc, etc. so, the math looks like it wouldn't matter (and to some hunters it wouldn't), but statewide it would change the numbers. So, they might would have to drop it to 2 instead of 3 or limit how many days you could kill bucks. Excellent post. You should be on the CAB. One of the ways they justified allowing a February season in North AL was that it was just another way to allow hunters to get their limit. I forget which CAB member said it, but it seemed his logic was that as long as each hunter killed only 3, then all would be great. Let's see, they claim we have 1.5 million deer and 500,000 hunters, though both are guesses. So if each hunter killed 3 bucks, well, we don't have that many bucks. So allowing multiple bucks to be killed in one day will increase the buck harvest for sure, just as the February hunting will do. But we were told we had to have the buck limit because it wasn't biologically sound to kill so many bucks. Something doesn't add up.
Last edited by poorcountrypreacher; 12/09/16 04:20 AM.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: 3 buck rule
[Re: Deerslyer86]
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12/09/16 04:23 AM
12/09/16 04:23 AM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,565 Cape San Blas, Florida
Deadwood
Footbsll Bat PSYOPS
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Footbsll Bat PSYOPS
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Posts: 9,565
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As a Florida hunter, my non-res license costs $301.85, I think. That's NOTHING compared to the incidental expenses I have running my Alabama camps. I pay a wad of sales tax in addition to my leases, insurance, groceries, liquor, power, water, gas, you get the picture. And I don't split expenses with anybody, because I'm the dictator of my leases. So yes, you do have a valid point as it's not really about the license fees at all. And I don't mind so much, because right now it's fun to go to camp.
Then I've got the Florida camp expenses which pale in comparison because it's just a stone's throw from where I live.
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Re: 3 buck rule
[Re: modoc_333]
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12/09/16 06:59 AM
12/09/16 06:59 AM
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Posts: 2,834 Marion County, Alabama
Vernon Tull
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Posts: 2,834
Marion County, Alabama
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Any time a limit is set on anything, they have a formula to estimate how many hunters will kill 0, how many will limit out per day, how many will limit out per season, how many will hunt only 1-3 days, how many will hunt A LOT of days, etc, etc. I know one of the hunters who will kill 0 bucks ....
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Re: 3 buck rule
[Re: Deerslyer86]
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12/09/16 07:48 AM
12/09/16 07:48 AM
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Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 9,790 The Boonies a.k.a. Pickens cou...
300gr
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8 point
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 9,790
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The same goobers that say you can't have but 3 shotgun shells in your shotgun when dove/duck hunting. If there is a bag limit then it shouldn't matter if you have 3 shits or 8
Two roads diverged in the woods and I took the one with deep ruts,hills and mud.It may be bumpy but WHAT A RIDE!
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Re: 3 buck rule
[Re: 300gr]
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12/09/16 07:56 AM
12/09/16 07:56 AM
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Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 13,881 Mobile, AL
SouthBamaSlayer
Gary's Fluffer
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Gary's Fluffer
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 13,881
Mobile, AL
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The same goobers that say you can't have but 3 shotgun shells in your shotgun when dove/duck hunting. If there is a bag limit then it shouldn't matter if you have 3 shits or 8
Never understood that one either.
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Re: 3 buck rule
[Re: 300gr]
#1947567
12/09/16 08:06 AM
12/09/16 08:06 AM
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Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 10,325 coffee county
goodman_hunter
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 10,325
coffee county
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The same goobers that say you can't have but 3 shotgun shells in your shotgun when dove/duck hunting. If there is a bag limit then it shouldn't matter if you have 3 shits or 8 exactly, another stupid rule
For without victory, there is no survival
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