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For you guys that think the so-called feeding regulation is not flawed #1943206
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My buddy says bullchit lol. He recently was ticketed for allegedly "Baiting deer" look these guys are on a feeding program and feed year round, but he still received a ticket for influencing/enticing or some horse chit like that lmao. He's fit to be tied grin


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Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: James] #1943207
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Pretty sure it's no different this year than the last few

100 yards and out of line of sight

Might be wrong though, wouldn't be first time

Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: jbc] #1943210
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Originally Posted By: jbc
Pretty sure it's no different this year than the last few

100 yards and out of line of sight

Might be wrong though, wouldn't be first time
Feeders are 100 yards out of sight, and he knows he can beat it but it's still a bunch of money chit


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Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: James] #1943232
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Baiting law is ridiculous. A little different deal but a Friend of ours got nailed for hunting over a field that was top sewn with wheat before the rain last week.

Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: James] #1943242
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My father-in-laws hunting partner got a $100.00 ticket a week ago for "hunting" over corn. I put "hunting" in parenthesis because the guy is 80 years old, on oxygen and won't even get out of his truck to walk to the shooting house. He pulls his truck right up to the food plot and sits there. Yes he has a gun and I guess is technically hunting but, in my opinion, it takes a sorry person to write an old man a ticket for something as trivial as that.


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Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: James] #1943245
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I used to be against it but my opinion has changed. Hunting over acorns, standing corn, fallen pears, etc. is the same as corn to me. For every deer that is killed over corn, 10 are fed during the lean months.


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Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: hunting13] #1943297
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Originally Posted By: hunting13
Baiting law is ridiculous. A little different deal but a Friend of ours got nailed for hunting over a field that was top sewn with wheat before the rain last week.


Damn I would have never dreamed that would be illegal. With this drought every dirt plot hunter is illegal. That is ridiculous and nit picky as I've ever heard.

Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: James] #1943303
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This will keep on until somebody does take it to court and the court renders an opinion. That is what needs to happen. Either it is ok if it is 100 yards and out of sight or it isn't. But who has that kind of money.


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Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: hunting13] #1943304
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Originally Posted By: hunting13
Baiting law is ridiculous. A little different deal but a Friend of ours got nailed for hunting over a field that was top sewn with wheat before the rain last week.


Dove hunting?

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Originally Posted By: hunting13
Baiting law is ridiculous. A little different deal but a Friend of ours got nailed for hunting over a field that was top sewn with wheat before the rain last week.


Dove hunting?

I would assume they used feed wheat and it has an occasional corn kernel in it.


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Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: James] #1943313
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Originally Posted By: James
Originally Posted By: jbc
Pretty sure it's no different this year than the last few

100 yards and out of line of sight

Might be wrong though, wouldn't be first time
Feeders are 100 yards out of sight, and he knows he can beat it but it's still a bunch of money chit


I'm always willing to beat on this dead horse.

While there are always two sides to every story, there is no mystery as to why so many hunters have such a low opinion of game wardens, if the above is accurate. I'm sure there are some good wardens out there, but ones like this give all a bad name.

"there shall be a rebuttable presumption that any bait or feed located beyond 100 yards and not within the line of sight of the hunter, is not a lure or attractant on the area where the hunter is attempting to take deer or feral swine.
“Not within the line of sight” means being hidden from view by natural vegetation or terrain features"

So, "bait or feed" can be placed 100 yards away and out of the line of sight, and the reputable presumption is that it is not a lure or attractant on the area where the person in hunting. So, what "proof" could the Game Warden have that it is a lure or attraction?

If words have meaning, and I think they do, then the game warden is WRONG!!! I think any game warden should be fired or heavily fined for ticketing someone who is abiding by the regulation.

Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: ford150man] #1943319
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My father-in-laws hunting partner got a $100.00 ticket a week ago for "hunting" over corn. I put "hunting" in parenthesis because the guy is 80 years old, on oxygen and won't even get out of his truck to walk to the shooting house. He pulls his truck right up to the food plot and sits there. Yes he has a gun and I guess is technically hunting but, in my opinion, it takes a sorry person to write an old man a ticket for something as trivial as that.


I'm glad your FIL is still going out, but doing what he was doing is considered hunting. At what age do we get a pass from a citation?

The "baiting" law is vague. Either make hunting over stuff - corn, rice, whatever - legal or not.


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Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: MarksOutdoors] #1943321
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Originally Posted By: MarksOutdoors
For every deer that is killed over corn, 10 are fed during the lean months.


Baloney. One hunter out of 100 won't go put corn out after the season ends. Late February is when they would need it most.

That's why I'm not in favor of it. If they make baiting legal, then many food plots won't be planted and then the deer really won't have any extra to eat after the season goes out.


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Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: FurFlyin] #1943323
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Originally Posted By: FurFlyin
One hunter out of 100 won't go put corn out after the season ends. Late February is when they would need it most.

That's why I'm not in favor of it. If they make baiting legal, then many food plots won't be planted and then the deer really won't have any extra to eat after the season goes out.


I actually agree on both counts. I never thought about food plots not getting planted. We would still plant, but I realize many wouldn't. And there's no way I'd put out corn after season.

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Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: FurFlyin
One hunter out of 100 won't go put corn out after the season ends. Late February is when they would need it most.

That's why I'm not in favor of it. If they make baiting legal, then many food plots won't be planted and then the deer really won't have any extra to eat after the season goes out.


I actually agree on both counts. I never thought about food plots not getting planted. We would still plant, but I realize many wouldn't. And there's no way I'd put out corn after season.


How much benefit are the deer getting from foodplots right now?


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: James] #1943387
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killing deer over bait gets rid of all your deer, just ask Kansas, Oklahoma, GA, FL, Canada, etc. etc. All their deer are gone now.


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Originally Posted By: Remington270
.... I never thought about food plots not getting planted. We would still plant, but I realize many wouldn't. And there's no way I'd put out corn after season.


I never thought about NOT planting, either. I guess there are a lot of hunters who will save money on seed and fertilizer for their green fields and invest in corn for baiting. Especially if they live close to their hunting area and can put out a bag or two each week during the season.

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Originally Posted By: FurFlyin
Originally Posted By: MarksOutdoors
For every deer that is killed over corn, 10 are fed during the lean months.


Baloney. One hunter out of 100 won't go put corn out after the season ends. Late February is when they would need it most.

That's why I'm not in favor of it. If they make baiting legal, then many food plots won't be planted and then the deer really won't have any extra to eat after the season goes out.


I'm not a betting man, but if I was I'd bet you on your statement of 100 hunters.

I believe you are wrong. Those that are serious in management and crazy over deer, want to know what deer remain on the property(ies) take a camera census after season, over corn.

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Re: For you guys that think the so-called feeding law is not flawed [Re: buzzard] #1943410
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Originally Posted By: buzzard
killing deer over bait gets rid of all your deer, just ask Kansas, Oklahoma, GA, FL, Canada, etc. etc. All their deer are gone now.


You left out Texas. And we planted food plots as well as using timed feeders.

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Baiting is allowed in Wisconsin, too. Limited amounts. They don't have any deer, either. All gone gone.


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