</a JR Holmes Oil Company </a Shark Guard Southeast Woods and Whitetail Mayer Insurance Services LLC
Aldeer Classifieds
Looking for Lowrance Ghost or 24v Ultrex
by bradbathome. 03/28/24 08:17 PM
Turkey loads/decoy
by Rem870s2. 03/28/24 04:41 PM
Wtb Browning 300 Mag
by desertdog. 03/28/24 03:36 PM
WTB Chevy 1500
by Okalona. 03/28/24 07:44 AM
Iso ruger american ranch
by AustinC. 03/27/24 08:20 PM
Serious Deer Talk
The Hollywood Buck.
by Mbrock. 03/28/24 08:56 PM
For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd
by SEWoodsWhitetail. 03/28/24 10:45 AM
High Fencing
by RareBreed. 03/26/24 10:45 PM
Who's got the best deer hunting in AL
by TensawRiver. 03/26/24 01:26 PM
What makes you happy?
by Fishduck. 03/26/24 10:25 AM
March
S M T W T F S
1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31
Land, Leases, Hunting Clubs
West Jefferson County hunting club
by Jmfire722. 03/18/24 08:36 AM
Western Ky farm
by todd w. 03/15/24 01:23 PM
Information on bibb county hunting club
by quickshot. 03/10/24 01:46 PM
Hunting Club
by Hibby. 03/08/24 04:34 PM
Mississippi club
by Gobl4me. 03/07/24 09:55 PM
Who's Online Now
13 registered members (Jweeks, dustymac, Buck-bomb, remlap, Gulfcoast, jaredhunts, Frankie, dirtwrk, apolloslade, BRP549, Jstocks, 2 invisible), 449 guests, and 0 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 27 of 76 1 2 25 26 27 28 29 75 76
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: Gobble4me757] #2023592
02/10/17 03:09 PM
02/10/17 03:09 PM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 12,842
Montgomery / Luverne
crenshawco Offline
Booner
crenshawco  Offline
Booner
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 12,842
Montgomery / Luverne
Originally Posted By: Gobble4me757
I have to give you major props CNC for the thread...it has helped me out so much with being able to read a hit after taking note to your notes on what different hits look like...I honestly never thought about bringing in a dog for all these years and now if anyone shoots at a buck and has marginal blood, I tell em to back out and call a dog...This has been the most entertaining read throughout the season of any of the threads as well as informative so thanks a ton!! Cant wait till next season for this thread!!


X2. It's been very informative and entertaining

Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC] #2023599
02/10/17 03:18 PM
02/10/17 03:18 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,078
alabama
B
BigEd Offline
10 point
BigEd  Offline
10 point
B
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,078
alabama
thanks CNC for taking the time to write the stories. Enjoyed keeping up with this thread. Looking forward to next year. Maybe Shelby will be able to get in on the action some with Otis.

Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC] #2023626
02/10/17 03:40 PM
02/10/17 03:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
CNC Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
CNC  Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
Thanks fellas….I appreciate it. To be honest with you, we’re all learning a lot of this together. I’ve been hunting since I was a kid and I’ve killed a lot of deer over the years but tracking deer with a dog like this has put a whole new perspective on things. Deer are some sho nuff tough critters. I’m glad everyone is enjoying the stories and finding them informative. I’m happy to be able to share them.

One more call just came in to finish the season. Dad and daughter were hunting together this morning and daughter shot a good buck. Dad said it hit the ground and spun around in circles before finally getting up and taking off. I thought back shot but he says he saw where it hit and it was just too far forward. Hopefully he’s correct and it got into the body cavity. I guess it might be brisket or low on the chest maybe…not sure. He says they found good blood for a couple hundred yards and then it petered out. They searched some at lunch with no luck and decided this evening to give it one last try with a dog. We’ll see what happens in the morning. Maybe we can end the season on a positive note.

To be continued…….

Last edited by CNC; 02/10/17 04:41 PM.

The Corn Crash!!!
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC] #2024239
02/11/17 07:20 AM
02/11/17 07:20 AM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,176
Central to South AL
Stickers Offline
8 point
Stickers  Offline
8 point
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,176
Central to South AL
have thoroughly enjoyed you chronicling your adventures this year. thanks for taking the time to share. good luck on the last track.


WDE
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: Stickers] #2024250
02/11/17 07:50 AM
02/11/17 07:50 AM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
CNC Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
CNC  Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
Originally Posted By: Stickers
have thoroughly enjoyed you chronicling your adventures this year. thanks for taking the time to share. good luck on the last track.


Thanks Stickers! thumbup thumbup


I thought this story sounded awfully familiar and with every 100 yards we tracked it became more apparent that we were just dealing with another backslap or back whack. You know I kinda like back whack a little better. It just has a better ring to it…..Back-Whack!

I talked more with "Dad" as we tracked and he said he could see blood on the deer as it spun around in a circle on the ground. He said he couldn’t believe it got up but when it did he could see blood too far forward and high on the shoulder. He also said that it looked like the deer’s front legs had gone out on him.

That loss of leg use seems to be common on a back whack. We tracked this deer and found blood out to 900 yards with him crossing creek branches and ditches so his legs were actually fine. It was just the temporary paralysis that made his legs go dead on him. Once they get their legs back under them then their good to go. This buck crossed a steep creek bank within 200 yards of where he was shot. There was a softball size spot of blood just across the creek where he got up the bank and then stood there a moment. We called it off somewhere around 1300-1500 yards.

I actually have one more track to go to but it may or may not actually be a wounded deer. A local landowner called me this morning and said his daughter had shot one yesterday evening but they couldn’t find any blood or anything. He said the deer jumped up off its feet though so he wanted my opinion as to whether or not I thought it was hit from that reaction. I told him it could be hit or it could possibly just be grazed under the belly/brisket to cause it to react by jumping off all fours like that. We’re gonna meet after lunch just to check it out.

To be continued one more time......... smile

Last edited by CNC; 02/11/17 07:54 AM.

The Corn Crash!!!
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC] #2024321
02/11/17 09:55 AM
02/11/17 09:55 AM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 41,957
UR 6
top cat Offline
Freak of Nature
top cat  Offline
Freak of Nature
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 41,957
UR 6
You gonna track some gobblers too laugh. Loved this thread. thumbup

Last edited by top cat; 02/11/17 09:55 AM.

LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!!
- - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: top cat] #2024415
02/11/17 12:43 PM
02/11/17 12:43 PM
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 15,507
Montgomery
bamaeyedoc Offline
Old Mossy Horns
bamaeyedoc  Offline
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 15,507
Montgomery
Originally Posted By: top cat
You gonna track some gobblers too laugh. Loved this thread. thumbup


He'll be waaaaay more busy in the spring! slap

Dr. B


AKA: “Dr. B”
Aldeer #121
8-3-2000
Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA
Member of Team 10 Point
2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners

Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris
1938-2017
UGA Class of 1960
BS/MS Forestry
LTJG, USNR



Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC] #2024641
02/11/17 03:52 PM
02/11/17 03:52 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,176
Central to South AL
Stickers Offline
8 point
Stickers  Offline
8 point
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,176
Central to South AL
CNC- there will be some common things as you look back over all these tracks. Maybe for instance:
caliber most likely to used resulting in a track
good shots ( good bullet placement) versus bad shots
age of hunter calling for track
distance of shot resulting in the track
time of day -morning or afternoon
found deer - hit in front end or behind shoulder
lost deer-hit in front end or behind shoulder
club or private land


WDE
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: top cat] #2025037
02/12/17 07:01 AM
02/12/17 07:01 AM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
CNC Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
CNC  Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
Originally Posted By: top cat
You gonna track some gobblers too laugh. Loved this thread. thumbup


beers


The Corn Crash!!!
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2025038
02/12/17 07:03 AM
02/12/17 07:03 AM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
CNC Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
CNC  Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
Originally Posted By: bamaeyedoc
He'll be waaaaay more busy in the spring! slap

Dr. B


I doubt we track too many turkey but if it wouldn't ruin him....Otis would be hell on a pig hunt. I'm afraid it'll make him want to chase 'em when were tracking though.

Last edited by CNC; 02/12/17 07:04 AM.

The Corn Crash!!!
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: Stickers] #2025044
02/12/17 07:10 AM
02/12/17 07:10 AM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
CNC Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
CNC  Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
Originally Posted By: Stickers
CNC- there will be some common things as you look back over all these tracks. Maybe for instance:
caliber most likely to used resulting in a track
good shots ( good bullet placement) versus bad shots
age of hunter calling for track
distance of shot resulting in the track
time of day -morning or afternoon
found deer - hit in front end or behind shoulder
lost deer-hit in front end or behind shoulder
club or private land


Oh yeah...there are a lot commonalities. The caliber of gun doesn't seem to be one though. We get tracks on just about every gun in the book.

Young hunters is a very common one that repeats itself.

Back-Whacks are very, very common....maybe even the most common marginal hit.

We are much more likely to recover something hit in the back end of the deer rather than the front end.

Blown off legs are a crap shoot to recover and pretty much requires running the deer for long distances.

A lot of bad angles on shots.

A lot of very rushed shots taken as soon as the deer was seen or stepped into the field.


The Corn Crash!!!
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC] #2025047
02/12/17 07:12 AM
02/12/17 07:12 AM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
CNC Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
CNC  Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
The last track was just a clean miss or grazing shot. We searched for little bit but there was nothing that indicated a wounded deer. That’s the reality of going on tracking calls though. I don’t know if any of y’all caught the latest episode of “Major League Bowhunter” but the show really hit home with what I’ve seen this year.

The guy with the beard had shot a good buck with his bow right at dark from 30 yards. You could see the lighted noc headed right at the deer and hit what looked like it was just behind the shoulder…..Got him!!! Smoked!!.......Well the deer took off running and the arrow fell out at about 40-50 yards as they watched the deer run off and disappear. It looked like they got about 40% of the arrow in the deer with good blood to that point on the arrow. Long story short, they backed out, came back the next morning and never found the deer. Before the season was over they ended up filming the deer 3 more times….he had survived the shot. They went on to talk about that they were airing that hunt to show that it doesn’t happen the way hunting shows often portray it and they wanted to use that episode to show the reality of hunting.

That hunt reminded me of a lot of the tracks we have been on this year. Things just don’t always turn out the way we think they should and just because you hit one or draw blood….doesn’t mean there will be a dead deer at the end of the trail. I purposely set up each call before we ran the tracks this year so that win, lose, or draw…..the story of each track was told just the way it unfolded. I could only show the winners and never tell you about the ones that get away but none of us would really learn much from that. The ones that get away are often times the ones we learn the most from.

I’ve beat it like a dead horse all throughout this thread so I might as well end it standing on the same soapbox. Take the time to slow down after you make the shot to make good decisions. I would even recommend to make it really simple on yourself and write out the steps you need to take on an index card and stick it in your jacket pocket. Pull it out after the shot and follow your own directions. When it doubt, back out. smile

Last edited by CNC; 02/12/17 07:14 AM.

The Corn Crash!!!
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC] #2025904
02/13/17 03:50 AM
02/13/17 03:50 AM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,176
Central to South AL
Stickers Offline
8 point
Stickers  Offline
8 point
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,176
Central to South AL

Originally Posted By: CNC
Originally Posted By: Stickers
CNC- there will be some common things as you look back over all these tracks. Maybe for instance:
caliber most likely to used resulting in a track
good shots ( good bullet placement) versus bad shots
age of hunter calling for track
distance of shot resulting in the track
time of day -morning or afternoon
found deer - hit in front end or behind shoulder
lost deer-hit in front end or behind shoulder
club or private land


Oh yeah...there are a lot commonalities. The caliber of gun doesn't seem to be one though. We get tracks on just about every gun in the book.

Young hunters is a very common one that repeats itself.

Back-Whacks are very, very common....maybe even the most common marginal hit.

We are much more likely to recover something hit in the back end of the deer rather than the front end.

Blown off legs are a crap shoot to recover and pretty much requires running the deer for long distances.

A lot of bad angles on shots.

A lot of very rushed shots taken as soon as the deer was seen or stepped into the field.


Thanks- figured you had seen enough to draw some conclusion. Enjoy some rest.


WDE
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC] #2027619
02/14/17 12:02 PM
02/14/17 12:02 PM
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 602
Huntsville
Deer Crossing Offline
4 point
Deer Crossing  Offline
4 point
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 602
Huntsville
Thanks for a great thread, I've enjoyed reading it!

Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: Deer Crossing] #2027625
02/14/17 12:08 PM
02/14/17 12:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 10,501
Central, Al
Bustinbeards Offline
Booner
Bustinbeards  Offline
Booner
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 10,501
Central, Al
Originally Posted By: Deer Crossing
Thanks for a great thread, I've enjoyed reading it!
^^^x2


Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes
On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC] #2027685
02/14/17 01:12 PM
02/14/17 01:12 PM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
CNC Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
CNC  Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
Thanks fellas! beers


The Corn Crash!!!
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC] #2027973
02/14/17 05:02 PM
02/14/17 05:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,634
Wetumpka, AL
ColeT Offline
10 point
ColeT  Offline
10 point
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,634
Wetumpka, AL
Lol when I saw the young hunters common I lold. I'm only 20. But I must say the one you came to helped track is the only one I've ever lost with a rifle. I could make the shot I took 9 out of 10 times. I just made a bad shot that day. But you have an excellent dog.

Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: ColeT] #2028144
02/15/17 02:49 AM
02/15/17 02:49 AM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
CNC Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
CNC  Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
Originally Posted By: ColeT
Lol when I saw the young hunters common I lold. I'm only 20. But I must say the one you came to helped track is the only one I've ever lost with a rifle. I could make the shot I took 9 out of 10 times. I just made a bad shot that day. But you have an excellent dog.


Thanks Cole!…….. thumbup


When I said young hunters, I was referring to kids ages 7-14. They probably make up 10-20% of the tracks we go on. Making a marginal shot is just a part of hunting though that is eventually gonna catch up with every hunter at one point in their hunting career. We can make good decisions to minimize them….but sometimes chit just happens. If you keep hunting long enough, that one likely won't be your last one. grin

Last edited by CNC; 02/15/17 03:03 AM.

The Corn Crash!!!
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC] #2028209
02/15/17 04:00 AM
02/15/17 04:00 AM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
CNC Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
CNC  Offline OP
Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
Alright fellas, so in the spirit of telling it like it happened…..I’ve got to fess up and go ahead and tell the rest of the story. I was a little ashamed of myself on one of those last few tracks and left a little bit of detail out. blush

We had already called off the track and were on the hike back to the truck when it happened. We were walking through a wet hardwood creek bottom that a logging crew had just come in and clear cut and things were a mess. There were tree tops and chitty logs, that I suppose they didn’t want, laying everywhere. We were walking up a four wheeler trail when I saw Otis hit a scent pretty hardcore. He slammed on the brakes and his nose cranked up to high gear. Just to make sure it wasn’t our deer, I told him “Go check it”.

Well, he trotted out in the clear cut a little ways to a tree top where he suddenly went on point with his hair standing up and his tail pointed stiff. He stayed on point for about 10 seconds before the tree top exploded and Otis took off barking. They were in some thick stuff after that happened and I couldn’t see what was going on other than the tree top came alive. I could tell by Otis’s barking that it moving but not really running off. “It’s our buck!!”…I thought. “He’s weak and can’t get away!”…….

As I draw my .45 and start moving toward them to get a shot….I hear Otis keep slowly taking it away from me at about 75 yards. By this time, I’ve got in a little opening where I can see a little better and as I look up ahead I see Otis running back to me……with a good size pig HOT ON HIS ASS!!!! shocked shocked Otis came running past my feet and stopped once he got behind me.... dumping the pig right in my lap. eek The pig thankfully saw me and locked it down at maybe 15 yards and just stared at me. I shot at it twice and missed before I even took aim. laugh laugh I just pointed and shot. I remember doing it and thinking to myself…..”Chit man, you panicked!!” Keep in mind though that this is all happening in the blink of an eye.

Troy was right that a pistol is tough to shoot accurately under extreme pressure. I did great on the wounded buck I shot earlier in the year but I choked on this pig. I may rethink things next year and look at a really small shotgun loaded with buckshot as my carry weapon. All I’ve got with a pistol is 15-25 yards anyways and even that is tough in this type situation. I should have that distance covered better with buckshot out of a small 20 gauge. It’s got to be a gun that I can easily carry without really knowing its there though. I don’t know…..I’ll have to give it some thought over the summer.

But yeah, anyways…….there’s the rest of the story. I let my nerves get the best of me and flat out missed a gimme with my new pistol. grin

Last edited by CNC; 02/15/17 04:04 AM.

The Corn Crash!!!
Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC] #2028343
02/15/17 05:47 AM
02/15/17 05:47 AM
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 6,778
Alabama
3
3FFarms Offline
ALDEER SPONSOR
3FFarms  Offline
ALDEER SPONSOR
3
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 6,778
Alabama
I thought you were going to tell us you in fact did poop in your pants. laugh


Originally Posted by CNC
Ya'll are just overthinking it now

Page 27 of 76 1 2 25 26 27 28 29 75 76

Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2023 Aldeer LLP.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1
(Release build 20180111)
Page Time: 0.147s Queries: 15 (0.071s) Memory: 3.3079 MB (Peak: 3.5990 MB) Zlib disabled. Server Time: 2024-03-29 08:27:33 UTC