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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/27/16 12:55 PM
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They'll get screwed , unless their lawyer gets involved. They do well in casinos and selling tobacco.
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
[Re: whack-n-stack]
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10/27/16 01:03 PM
10/27/16 01:03 PM
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I have to tell you..kinda mixed in this one. Some of prettiest country up the on the Standing Rock Reservation.
Its where I got my Mulie a couple years ago.
Last edited by outdoorobsession; 10/27/16 01:03 PM.
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
[Re: whack-n-stack]
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10/27/16 01:24 PM
10/27/16 01:24 PM
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Theres some interesting things goin on at the reservation. A drilling company wants to run a pipeline slap through the reservation. Based on history, how would you think the natives' end of the deal is gonna come out? It doesn't even go thru the reservation. They are just getting their 15 minutes.
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
[Re: whack-n-stack]
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10/27/16 01:42 PM
10/27/16 01:42 PM
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IF IF IF, if a frog jumps hes gonna bump his ass. If you get out of bed you could break your leg. You must live an exciting life.
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
[Re: JAT50]
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10/27/16 01:59 PM
10/27/16 01:59 PM
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Theres some interesting things goin on at the reservation. A drilling company wants to run a pipeline slap through the reservation. Based on history, how would you think the natives' end of the deal is gonna come out? It doesn't even go thru the reservation. They are just getting their 15 minutes. Show me some GIS or tax records and ill believe it
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/27/16 02:06 PM
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IF IF IF, if a frog jumps hes gonna bump his ass. If you get out of bed you could break your leg. You must live an exciting life.
Because the gasoline pipeline in shelby county never fails
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
[Re: whack-n-stack]
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10/27/16 02:08 PM
10/27/16 02:08 PM
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Thats partof life, things break everyday. if Columbus hadn't sailed the ocean where would be now ? I know he didn't find America, but he started the ball roling.
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
[Re: JAT50]
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10/27/16 02:41 PM
10/27/16 02:41 PM
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Theres some interesting things goin on at the reservation. A drilling company wants to run a pipeline slap through the reservation. Based on history, how would you think the natives' end of the deal is gonna come out? It doesn't even go thru the reservation. They are just getting their 15 minutes. Well heck then..let er rip tater chip! I like the gas below $2.00!
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/27/16 03:10 PM
10/27/16 03:10 PM
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Why should the American Indians give up one more fuckking inch of anything for the rest of the country? They are the most downtrodden people on this continent. Everything their ancestors had was stolen from them. How would you like it if the Army came thru tomorrow and forced you, your wife and kids and your entire community/county to pack up and move to the desert southwest? Or somewhere else that you had no knowledge of how to live off a part of the land that was foreign to you. I side with the Indians.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/27/16 03:12 PM
10/27/16 03:12 PM
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They should get paid big money if it goes thru their land.
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/27/16 03:17 PM
10/27/16 03:17 PM
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The point is IF, Columbus hadn't sailed there would be no America. IF IF IF, nothing is certain in this life. Some of you guys whine too much. You took my point about if, I didn't say it had a damn thing to do with treaties. Its just like there is no guarantee the sun will rise tomorrow . If you wait on a sure thing, nothing will ever happen. If we had not dropped the bombs on Japan Hundreds of thousands more American soldiers would have been killed. There is always an IF.
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/27/16 03:38 PM
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Nothing was stolen, it was taken. If they wanted to keep the land they should have fought harder. Hell they even had home field advantage. That's the same damn thing. Acquiring something that isn't rightfully yours is the stealing or taking, whichever you prefer. If the feds busted down your door and "took" everything you owned, you would complain? By your logic, they have a right to.
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/27/16 03:47 PM
10/27/16 03:47 PM
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It does not go through the reservation at all. You guys need to familiarize yourself with federal regulations regarding historic sites before you form an opinion on this one. The real issue at hand is did the US Army Corps of Engineers, the lead federal agency in this case regarding Section 106 of the National Historic Presevation Act, follow the appropriate protocol and regulations. Additionally, did the tribe respond in an appropriate manner as their opportunities were afforded to them during the process?
It's not the strongest species to survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones most responsive to change. - Charles Darwin
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/27/16 03:49 PM
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It does not go through the reservation at all. You guys need to familiarize yourself with federal regulations regarding historic sites before you form an opinion on this one. The real issue at hand is did the US Army Corps of Engineers, the lead federal agency in this case regarding Section 106 of the National Historic Presevation Act, follow the appropriate protocol and regulations. Additionally, did the tribe respond in an appropriate manner as their opportunities were afforded to them during the process? You got links? Everything I see is that it would be disturbing burial grounds.
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/27/16 03:49 PM
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It does not go through the reservation at all. You guys need to familiarize yourself with federal regulations regarding historic sites before you form an opinion on this one. The real issue at hand is did the US Army Corps of Engineers, the lead federal agency in this case regarding Section 106 of the National Historic Presevation Act, follow the appropriate protocol and regulations. Additionally, did the tribe respond in an appropriate manner as their opportunities were afforded to them during the process? So you're saying it was textbook law and the natives missed the opportunity to legally protest it?
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/27/16 03:52 PM
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It does not go through the reservation at all. You guys need to familiarize yourself with federal regulations regarding historic sites before you form an opinion on this one. The real issue at hand is did the US Army Corps of Engineers, the lead federal agency in this case regarding Section 106 of the National Historic Presevation Act, follow the appropriate protocol and regulations. Additionally, did the tribe respond in an appropriate manner as their opportunities were afforded to them during the process? You got links? Everything I see is that it would be disturbing burial grounds. I've read up on this in the past few weeks. Use the google to research the lawsuit and injunction to stop the pipeline.
It's not the strongest species to survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones most responsive to change. - Charles Darwin
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/27/16 03:58 PM
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It does not go through the reservation at all. You guys need to familiarize yourself with federal regulations regarding historic sites before you form an opinion on this one. The real issue at hand is did the US Army Corps of Engineers, the lead federal agency in this case regarding Section 106 of the National Historic Presevation Act, follow the appropriate protocol and regulations. Additionally, did the tribe respond in an appropriate manner as their opportunities were afforded to them during the process? So you're saying it was textbook law and the natives missed the opportunity to legally protest it? Correct. Each tribe that has historical claims to an area is given the opportunity to object, comment, or "sign off" on projects that have a federal nexus and therefore goes through the Section 106 process. They were given several opportunities. Also note that an Archaeological study was performed on the entire corridor and some sections of the proposed pipeline were re-routed to avoid some identified historical sites.
It's not the strongest species to survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones most responsive to change. - Charles Darwin
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/28/16 02:11 AM
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Pipelines don't hurt anything. Don't you remember all the BS about the pipeline in Alaska and the Carabou stayed around it because it gave off heat. More liberal bs !  Yeah - cahaba management area didn't get hurt this year at all. I'm not anit-pipeline, I'm anti-no pipeline maintenance.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/28/16 02:34 AM
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Pipelines don't hurt anything. Don't you remember all the BS about the pipeline in Alaska and the Carabou stayed around it because it gave off heat. More liberal bs ! Yeah - cahaba management area didn't get hurt this year at all. I'm not anit-pipeline, I'm anti-no pipeline maintenance. Geno you are spouting off about something you know nothing about. The issue in Alabama was not because of lack of maintenance. Colonial actually performs PM style maintenance better than any other company I've done business with. And I've dealt with many Fortune 500 companies over the year.
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/28/16 02:50 AM
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Josh - you left out what it was while you were busy telling us what it was not.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/28/16 03:18 AM
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Josh - you left out what it was while you were busy telling us what it was not. Most likely due to the mining in the area in recent years. (Blasting, vibration, etc.) Those pipes are laid in a bedded trench, sealed with a coating and have anode beds, every so many feet.. if you were to bury a piece of 1 cubic foot of stainless steel next to the pipe, or in close proximity it would not last 1 year. The design of the system uses the anode beds to draw corrosion away from the pipe. Colonial took full responsibility of the spill and if you will go back and read the Caaba River Society is pleased with both the response and cleanup procedures they put in place. Very few times do you hear of an incident like this Geno. However if it was all shipped by rail or tanker truck how many times do you think an incident would occur?
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/28/16 03:32 AM
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Josh - you left out what it was while you were busy telling us what it was not. Most likely due to the mining in the area in recent years. (Blasting, vibration, etc.) Those pipes are laid in a bedded trench, sealed with a coating and have anode beds, every so many feet.. if you were to bury a piece of 1 cubic foot of stainless steel next to the pipe, or in close proximity it would not last 1 year. The design of the system uses the anode beds to draw corrosion away from the pipe. Colonial took full responsibility of the spill and if you will go back and read the Caaba River Society is pleased with both the response and cleanup procedures they put in place. Very few times do you hear of an incident like this Geno. However if it was all shipped by rail or tanker truck how many times do you think an incident would occur? I will say it again since you obviously missed it when I said it the first time - I am not anti pipeline. Pipelines are far and away the best way to transport fuel and other petroleum products. I am however very upset when one breaks - whether you like me being upset or not and whether or not the response is as good as it can be.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/28/16 04:15 AM
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Josh - you left out what it was while you were busy telling us what it was not. Most likely due to the mining in the area in recent years. (Blasting, vibration, etc.) Those pipes are laid in a bedded trench, sealed with a coating and have anode beds, every so many feet.. if you were to bury a piece of 1 cubic foot of stainless steel next to the pipe, or in close proximity it would not last 1 year. The design of the system uses the anode beds to draw corrosion away from the pipe. Colonial took full responsibility of the spill and if you will go back and read the Caaba River Society is pleased with both the response and cleanup procedures they put in place. Very few times do you hear of an incident like this Geno. However if it was all shipped by rail or tanker truck how many times do you think an incident would occur? I will say it again since you obviously missed it when I said it the first time - I am not anti pipeline. Pipelines are far and away the best way to transport fuel and other petroleum products. I am however very upset when one breaks - whether you like me being upset or not and whether or not the response is as good as it can be. You specifically said I'm against pipeline maintenance. Maintenance had nothing to do with the break.
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/28/16 04:25 AM
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Josh - you left out what it was while you were busy telling us what it was not. Most likely due to the mining in the area in recent years. (Blasting, vibration, etc.) Those pipes are laid in a bedded trench, sealed with a coating and have anode beds, every so many feet.. if you were to bury a piece of 1 cubic foot of stainless steel next to the pipe, or in close proximity it would not last 1 year. The design of the system uses the anode beds to draw corrosion away from the pipe. Colonial took full responsibility of the spill and if you will go back and read the Caaba River Society is pleased with both the response and cleanup procedures they put in place. Very few times do you hear of an incident like this Geno. However if it was all shipped by rail or tanker truck how many times do you think an incident would occur? I will say it again since you obviously missed it when I said it the first time - I am not anti pipeline. Pipelines are far and away the best way to transport fuel and other petroleum products. I am however very upset when one breaks - whether you like me being upset or not and whether or not the response is as good as it can be. You specifically said I'm against pipeline maintenance. Maintenance had nothing to do with the break. Wouldn't maintenance be the absolute entirety of it? I am by no means faulting the company but if you knew there was an increased in seismic activity due to mining or whatever in a given area wouldn't that translate to a shorter lifespan?
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/28/16 05:35 AM
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Could we do better? Maybe. But trains with hazardous chemicals derail and have spills every day, you just don't hear about them. Even with 5 spills this year from pipelines, it's still head and shoulders above every other transportation method. I do agree with that.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Re: Sioux in North Dakota
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10/31/16 11:40 AM
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And I still say the indians shouldn't give one damn inch.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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