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Trump: I've finally made my decision. 5 gets 95 eventually
#1858399
09/27/16 08:12 AM
09/27/16 08:12 AM
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Chelsea, AL
straycat
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The ONLY reason I'm even sharing this on here is that for a long while I've been pretty vocal about never supporting Trump. I feel my reasons have been very valid: Egomaniac, not a true conservative, lack of specific details, not the character I want in a President, Part of the problem-money power player buying favors from politicians, great at making money on real estate but bad at leading a country, etc...the list is YUGE! This has zero to do with Ted Cruz. Again, I'm free to have my own reasons and ideas.
BUT...as the race dropped to the two idiots we have now, Trump and Clinton...I started some soul searching to see if I could ever support a moron like Trump. I didn't take it lightly. This is serious stuff for our nation.
Ultimately I reached a decision over the weekend. I will vote for Trump on election day for only 1 reason: nominations for Federal judges and SCOTUS seats. Trump is a bumbling buffoon of an IDOT, but I/m guessing the people he nominates will be much better than the ones Clinton will nominate. Trump may be a disaster of a President, but I know Hillary is attempting to take us further down the road with Progressives in the courts. For that reason only, I retract my "never Trump" stance.
I've been calling out the Progressive Movement attacks on us for years and Hillary is part of that movement. She is harmful for Americans who love this country and our foundations of Liberty.
Trump...well he is harmful for this nation too, but less harmful than Hillary. He's a walking talking IDOT, but he isn't a Progressive activist. He stands for hardly anything I support in reality, but he is trying to pretend to be conservative at least. So I had to look at my principles. And I'll admit, I'm practically abandoning 95% of them by voting Trump. But I prefer to say I'm only "postponing" them. The judges placed on the Federal courts and the SCOTUS over the next 4-8 years will have a big impact on the remaining 95% of the principles I hold. The 5% of my principles that are ok with Trump...well I sure hope that he wins and can halt the erosion on our courts to save the other 95%.
To those still on the fence or still 100% never Trump. I don't blame you. Vote your own conscience. That is never a wasted vote no matter what the others on here say. After some hard searching and praying, my conscience will allow me to vote this one vote for Trump. So I've made peace with that.
I came this decision on Sunday afternoon. Last night after the debate, I felt dirty and covered in slime from watching the TV spectacle---can't even call it a debate.
Trump has been on top and has known this debate was coming. He has already been coached and coached on what to do and how to handle this, yet he was STILL an utter failure because of his ego and personality. I don't care what the polls say on who won, it was crystal clear that Trump was over his head BIGLY.
Seriously, we are all hoping a man who uses BIGLY on purpose will be our next President...my Lord we are in sad shape.
Trump got Trumped. It is all 100% on Trump now...it is is his to win or lose based on him and him alone. I'll cast my vote here in Alabama in November for him. But I'm not convinced he'll be able to keep his true self from showing up and blowing up his chances.
Anyway...Go Trump (ok, I just threw up in my mouth a little bit)
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Re: Trump: I've finally made my decision. 5 gets 95 eventually
[Re: straycat]
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09/27/16 08:16 AM
09/27/16 08:16 AM
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Chilton County
MarksOutdoors
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Very well said. I can't believe he was more prepared for questions he KNEW would be coming. And then he spent almost five minutes each, defending the accusations about Obama's birth certificate, releasing his taxes, his feelings on the Iraq war.
It made him LOOK as if he was being dishonest even if he wasn't.
With that said, Trump 2016!
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
-G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Trump: I've finally made my decision. 5 gets 95 eventually
[Re: straycat]
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09/27/16 08:51 AM
09/27/16 08:51 AM
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Madison County
bobwallace
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Don't think I could possibly agree anymore Stray. Well said. I have had, and still do, a lot of reservations about casting a vote for Trump. But in the end, on Nov 8th, I will complete a ballot for Trump to be our next President also. Son of a bitch that just sucks to say.
Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches.
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Re: Trump: I've finally made my decision. 5 gets 95 eventually
[Re: straycat]
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09/27/16 08:52 AM
09/27/16 08:52 AM
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Arab/Stevenson AL
Recurve
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The ONLY reason I'm even sharing this on here is that for a long while I've been pretty vocal about never supporting Trump. I feel my reasons have been very valid: Egomaniac, not a true conservative, lack of specific details, not the character I want in a President, Part of the problem-money power player buying favors from politicians, great at making money on real estate but bad at leading a country, etc...the list is YUGE! This has zero to do with Ted Cruz. Again, I'm free to have my own reasons and ideas.
BUT...as the race dropped to the two idiots we have now, Trump and Clinton...I started some soul searching to see if I could ever support a moron like Trump. I didn't take it lightly. This is serious stuff for our nation.
Ultimately I reached a decision over the weekend. I will vote for Trump on election day for only 1 reason: nominations for Federal judges and SCOTUS seats. Trump is a bumbling buffoon of an IDOT, but I/m guessing the people he nominates will be much better than the ones Clinton will nominate. Trump may be a disaster of a President, but I know Hillary is attempting to take us further down the road with Progressives in the courts. For that reason only, I retract my "never Trump" stance.
I've been calling out the Progressive Movement attacks on us for years and Hillary is part of that movement. She is harmful for Americans who love this country and our foundations of Liberty.
Trump...well he is harmful for this nation too, but less harmful than Hillary. He's a walking talking IDOT, but he isn't a Progressive activist. He stands for hardly anything I support in reality, but he is trying to pretend to be conservative at least. So I had to look at my principles. And I'll admit, I'm practically abandoning 95% of them by voting Trump. But I prefer to say I'm only "postponing" them. The judges placed on the Federal courts and the SCOTUS over the next 4-8 years will have a big impact on the remaining 95% of the principles I hold. The 5% of my principles that are ok with Trump...well I sure hope that he wins and can halt the erosion on our courts to save the other 95%.
To those still on the fence or still 100% never Trump. I don't blame you. Vote your own conscience. That is never a wasted vote no matter what the others on here say. After some hard searching and praying, my conscience will allow me to vote this one vote for Trump. So I've made peace with that.
I came this decision on Sunday afternoon. Last night after the debate, I felt dirty and covered in slime from watching the TV spectacle---can't even call it a debate.
Trump has been on top and has known this debate was coming. He has already been coached and coached on what to do and how to handle this, yet he was STILL an utter failure because of his ego and personality. I don't care what the polls say on who won, it was crystal clear that Trump was over his head BIGLY.
Seriously, we are all hoping a man who uses BIGLY on purpose will be our next President...my Lord we are in sad shape.
Trump got Trumped. It is all 100% on Trump now...it is is his to win or lose based on him and him alone. I'll cast my vote here in Alabama in November for him. But I'm not convinced he'll be able to keep his true self from showing up and blowing up his chances.
Anyway...Go Trump (ok, I just threw up in my mouth a little bit) Quality post. I have been in the exact same boat and only recently decided to vote for Trump. Look, we need to be able to be honest about his numerous shortcomings without being blasted for doing so. The general sentiment I have gotten has been that we don't even need to point them out. He's our nominee now accept it and just support him. I can't do that. I didn't do it when W was POTUS and I won't do it now. I can hold my nose and vote for him but I can't support some things he's said. For the hardcore Trump folks, I'm sorry but that's all I can do. One example is when he is talking about growing the size of the federal government through medicaid/maternity leave. I'm going to point that out. Shrinking federal government is a corner stone of the conservative ideology and what he believes on the matter is something I don't support. I know people get their drawers in a wad when Cruz is brought up, but evidently some Texan that comes from big money is heading up a campaign against him for 2018 because of his lack of support for Trump. So, he is feeling the pressure to even retain his position as a senator. I don't know that Trump has anything to do with that or if the individual is acting on his own, I was just told that from a reliable source/long time friend from my days working in lobbies in DC. But, that is the sort of thing that disgust me about some of his supporters. Not directing this at anyone here, just a point I wanted to make. I don't care if you love or hate Cruz or Sasse or Lee - and I'll admit they aren't perfect - we need people like them in the senate. They are the only few standing between us and the federal government. That is the very definition of "cutting off your nose to spite your face."
Last edited by Recurve; 09/27/16 09:01 AM.
I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There�s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. � Ronald Reagan
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Re: Trump: I've finally made my decision. 5 gets 95 eventually
[Re: straycat]
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09/27/16 09:19 AM
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Fayetteville TN Via Selma
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Good enough. As I've said all along, I need no other reason than he has the best chance to keep Hillary out of the office. While he may in fact be many, if not all, of the things you said, I do think he is smart enough to surround himself with smart, quality people. I believe, that if elected, his cabinet will be one of the best for America in modern times.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Trump: I've finally made my decision. 5 gets 95 eventually
[Re: BirminghamBuck]
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09/27/16 09:22 AM
09/27/16 09:22 AM
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Andalusia, Al. Covington Co.
DEADorALIVE
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If Trump wins the next 4 years are probably going to suck.
If Hillary wins the next 4 years are definitely going to suck along with the rest of our lives.
FIFY
Well behaved women never make history.~ Out back
Quit laughing...I think I broke something.
Fifteen is my limit on Schnitzen-Gruben, Baby...
I have OCD and ADD, so everything has to be perfect, but only for a minute.
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Re: Trump: I've finally made my decision. 5 gets 95 eventually
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09/27/16 09:23 AM
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Andalusia, Al. Covington Co.
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Ever since my candidate did not get the nomination and I realized Trump had the nomination this is where I have been. Was he my first choice/ Not even close but when it come to him or Hillary the decision is pretty clear if people look at what she will be able to do to our court system. X2
Well behaved women never make history.~ Out back
Quit laughing...I think I broke something.
Fifteen is my limit on Schnitzen-Gruben, Baby...
I have OCD and ADD, so everything has to be perfect, but only for a minute.
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Re: Trump: I've finally made my decision. 5 gets 95 eventually
[Re: straycat]
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09/27/16 09:44 AM
09/27/16 09:44 AM
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Coosa County
Turkey
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Stray, that is where I'm at on this election. I don't know if this country has ever had an election with two worse candidates. If Trump wins, we suffer. If Hillary wins, our grandkids suffer. Sadly, IMO, our best option is to get Trump in, try to minimize the damage while he is there, then correct the damage after he is gone. If Hillary is elected, I won't live long enough to see the damage reversed.
Another point: Have you looked at their VP candidates? I don't remember an election in my lifetime where there was such a good chance that the VP candidates may finish out a president's term. I've heard enough of her boy's opinion on the 2nd amendment to know we don't need him in that office.
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Re: Trump: I've finally made my decision. 5 gets 95 eventually
[Re: straycat]
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09/27/16 09:45 AM
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Abram
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Ya'll do realize that Obama has already stacked the deck in the Democrats favor
The president, over the course of his two terms, has appointed hundreds of justices to the lower federal courts, leading to a majority of appeals courts now dominated by Democratic picks. While those nomination battles aren’t nearly as high-profile as they are for the high court, the impact of the appointments is just as pronounced.
“It's often overlooked, but nominees to the lower courts ... are often one of the most important legacies a president leaves behind,” said Elizabeth Wydra, president of the Constitutional Accountability Center.
The Fourth Circuit, which sits just one level below the Supreme Court and is headquartered in Richmond, Va., is a prime example.
Previously viewed as one of the most conservative appellate courts in the country, it has drifted significantly to the left, with Democratic appointees now outnumbering their Republican counterparts two-to-one.
That circuit not only recently struck down North Carolina’s voter ID law, but also ruled in favor of a transgender student seeking to use high school bathroom facilities matching the student’s gender identity rather than biological gender.
The tilt on the federal appeals courts – particularly as the Supreme Court, which takes relatively few cases as it is, remains split 4-4 – is a trend that worries conservatives.
“The Supreme Court takes very few cases, there's not an opportunity to correct every error made -- and when you have activist judges at the lower levels of the federal judiciary, that can have a damaging effect on [the] American system and rule of law,” said Carrie Severino, chief counsel and policy director at the Judicial Crisis Network.
Hillary will only strengthen that by appointing more liberal judges as time goes by. She is going to try to one up Obama who with the help of the Democratic congress passed the Obama care law.
But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?
Mark Twain
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Re: Trump: I've finally made my decision. 5 gets 95 eventually
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09/27/16 09:45 AM
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Good post straycat and it took me a long time to come of the "Never Trump" wagon for the same reasons.
"Said I never had much use for one; never said I didn't know how to use it".
-Matthew Quigley in "Quigley Down Under"
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Re: Trump: I've finally made my decision. 5 gets 95 eventually
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09/27/16 09:56 AM
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welkl can you boys stop whining now and present a unified front ???
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Trump: I've finally made my decision. 5 gets 95 eventually
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09/27/16 10:23 AM
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Past Ol’ man Finley’s plac...
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I came around a couple of weeks ago as well. Ive got to vote for trump so at least I can say I tried to keep hillary out of the Whitehouse.
The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Job 33:4
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Re: Trump: I've finally made my decision. 5 gets 95 eventually
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/27/16 10:24 AM
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straycat
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welkl can you boys stop whining now and present a unified front ??? How's this for unified: I'm gonna call out that idiot Trump on every stupid thing he says and does so that maybe in 4 years a real true conservative will take over.
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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