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Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong #1858034
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I thought Trump did good early, then the moderator kept interrupting him and turned the tables on Trump only asking questions that attacked him. At the end like most of you, I thought it was even or Hillary came out on top. Keep in mind we are farther right than most of the country.

I like you was WRONG. Most of the country say Trump won. That is what matters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3809204/Most-snap-polls-Trump-winning-debate-landslide.html

(Stole this from skinny's post, but it was lost)


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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: Beer Belly] #1858035
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Keep in mind, its not what us rednecks here in Alabama thinks that counts, its what those fence sitters in the swing states think that counts.


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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: Beer Belly] #1858036
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Judging what I'm seeing on social media from Trump supporters they don't think he won. I guess maybe some in other parts of the country thought he did???


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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: Skinny] #1858045
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
Keep in mind, its not what us rednecks here in Alabama thinks that counts, its what those fence sitters in the swing states think that counts.


You are right Skinny. Somehow we have to try and have some influence and about the only way to do that is to unify. If we who support the better candidate show signs of dis-unity, others will pick up on it. We've go to pray that God has mercy on us and that Mr. Trump will be better prepared for the next two debates. Maybe that is part of his plan (at least we can hope) as he definitely approaches things in a different manner. Maybe it was his strategy to "feel out" how Hillary would handle this first debate and that maybe he will be more comfortable going for the jugular in the next debate.


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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: Beer Belly] #1858049
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Originally Posted By: Beer Belly

I thought Trump did good early, then the moderator kept interrupting him and turned the tables on Trump only asking questions that attacked him. At the end like most of you, I thought it was even or Hillary came out on top. Keep in mind we are farther right than most of the country.

I like you was WRONG. Most of the country say Trump won. That is what matters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3809204/Most-snap-polls-Trump-winning-debate-landslide.html

(Stole this from skinny's post, but it was lost)


Your first sentence says it all. The mainstream media is 90% liberal. Why would they not attack trump? This country is FUBAR and isnt going to change unless we change it. Its that simple. The american people need to want change, and at this point it doesnt appear that they do. Just my 2 cents.


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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: Beer Belly] #1858064
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Even though overall I think HIllary gave a better debate, there were two things she was very clear on. She is going to raise taxes on everyone and also go after gun rights.

Maybe the rest of America realized that too.

Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: Beer Belly] #1858067
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Trumps statement to Hillary of "You've been there 30 years" resounded to me every time she started one of her wishy washy rants.

Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: 3toe] #1858068
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Originally Posted By: 3toe
Even though overall I think HIllary gave a better debate, there were two things she was very clear on. She is going to raise taxes on everyone and also go after gun rights.

Maybe the rest of America realized that too.


He is apparently going after gun rights as well. He said that he agreed with her about the "No fly, no buy" nonsense, which is completely unconstitutional. Do you want a board of government employees determining your ability to purchase your next firearm? That's what Trump is advocating for.


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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: Beer Belly] #1858074
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She showed that she is for expanding government and that the constitution matters not to her. She demonstrated that she is against both the 2nd and 5th Amendments in this one debate alone.

Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: AlabamaRebel] #1858075
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Or police randomly frisking you because you "Might" have a weapon and you "Might" be about to commit a crime.


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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: AlabamaRebel] #1858077
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Originally Posted By: AlabamaRebel

Originally Posted By: 3toe
Even though overall I think HIllary gave a better debate, there were two things she was very clear on. She is going to raise taxes on everyone and also go after gun rights.

Maybe the rest of America realized that too.


He is apparently going after gun rights as well. He said that he agreed with her about the "No fly, no buy" nonsense, which is completely unconstitutional. Do you want a board of government employees determining your ability to purchase your next firearm? That's what Trump is advocating for.


So you're saying if a man can board a plane he should still be able to purchase a firearm


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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: Deerslyer86] #1858081
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Originally Posted By: Deerslyer86

Originally Posted By: AlabamaRebel

Originally Posted By: 3toe
Even though overall I think HIllary gave a better debate, there were two things she was very clear on. She is going to raise taxes on everyone and also go after gun rights.

Maybe the rest of America realized that too.


He is apparently going after gun rights as well. He said that he agreed with her about the "No fly, no buy" nonsense, which is completely unconstitutional. Do you want a board of government employees determining your ability to purchase your next firearm? That's what Trump is advocating for.


So you're saying if a man can board a plane he should still be able to purchase a firearm


Not at all. Felons can board planes. You're missing the point.

A board of government employees (who knows who they are) decides who goes on the no fly list. What Trump and Hillary are advocating is that this list should also apply to the right to purchase a firearm. Do you want some anonymous bureaucrat deciding who can and who can't buy a gun without due process of law? Just do some quick research on no fly list "errors" and how long it takes to get the "error" corrected. I say "error" in quotes because if the government continues on it's current course, there will likely be a lot of us on that no fly list before too much longer.


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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: IDOT] #1858090
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Originally Posted By: IDOT
Or police randomly frisking you because you "Might" have a weapon and you "Might" be about to commit a crime.


He's making democrat policies great again.


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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: Beer Belly] #1858104
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The media reports this crap ... making up their polls and trying to make Hillary look good. It's gonna be funny on election day when everyone expects her to win and she loses by a landslide




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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: AlabamaRebel] #1858123
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Originally Posted By: AlabamaRebel

Originally Posted By: Deerslyer86

Originally Posted By: AlabamaRebel

Originally Posted By: 3toe
Even though overall I think HIllary gave a better debate, there were two things she was very clear on. She is going to raise taxes on everyone and also go after gun rights.

Maybe the rest of America realized that too.


He is apparently going after gun rights as well. He said that he agreed with her about the "No fly, no buy" nonsense, which is completely unconstitutional. Do you want a board of government employees determining your ability to purchase your next firearm? That's what Trump is advocating for.


So you're saying if a man can board a plane he should still be able to purchase a firearm


Not at all. Felons can board planes. You're missing the point.

A board of government employees (who knows who they are) decides who goes on the no fly list. What Trump and Hillary are advocating is that this list should also apply to the right to purchase a firearm. Do you want some anonymous bureaucrat deciding who can and who can't buy a gun without due process of law? Just do some quick research on no fly list "errors" and how long it takes to get the "error" corrected. I say "error" in quotes because if the government continues on it's current course, there will likely be a lot of us on that no fly list before too much longer.


Alabama rebel you weren't listening very well he said he agrees with it but added there has to be a way through the court system to get off the list. NRA also supports this. Most Americans agree with this.


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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: Beer Belly] #1858125
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The problem is we/he knew it would be lop sided with questions and attacks. He could have harped on a thousand things she has done in her past that would hurt her and he didn't.

I agree the media is liberal, but this isn't a new concept. It's just one Trump wasn't prepared to battle. Learn from it and do better.


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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: AlabamaRebel] #1858127
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Originally Posted By: AlabamaRebel

Originally Posted By: 3toe
Even though overall I think HIllary gave a better debate, there were two things she was very clear on. She is going to raise taxes on everyone and also go after gun rights.

Maybe the rest of America realized that too.


He is apparently going after gun rights as well. He said that he agreed with her about the "No fly, no buy" nonsense, which is completely unconstitutional. Do you want a board of government employees determining your ability to purchase your next firearm? That's what Trump is advocating for.


OK so, do you want his "No Fly No Buy" policy or her gun policy(not to mention she will have the surpreme court!)? Do you really have to think about your decision? I'll take his all day long!


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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: Skinny] #1858128
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
Keep in mind, its not what us rednecks here in Alabama thinks that counts, its what those fence sitters in the swing states think that counts.


100% correct.



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Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong [Re: Recurve] #1858140
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Originally Posted By: Recurve
The problem is we/he knew it would be lop sided with questions and attacks. He could have harped on a thousand things she has done in her past that would hurt her and he didn't.

I agree the media is liberal, but this isn't a new concept. It's just one Trump wasn't prepared to battle. Learn from it and do better.


This is what really ticks me off about it, for months he has had one and only one opponent. He's known this debate was coming. Why the hell wasn't he prepared! It's just more of his fly by the seat of his pants, make it up as he goes BS!! He still isn't taking this thing anywhere near as seriously as he should be imo. Make no mistake, I will be holding my nose and voting for him in November, but man oh man how I wish I could have seen Ted Cruz utterly destroy Hillary on that stage last night.

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Originally Posted By: Recurve
The problem is we/he knew it would be lop sided with questions and attacks. He could have harped on a thousand things she has done in her past that would hurt her and he didn't.

I agree the media is liberal, but this isn't a new concept. It's just one Trump wasn't prepared to battle. Learn from it and do better.


This is what really ticks me off about it, for months he has had one and only one opponent. He's known this debate was coming. Why the hell wasn't he prepared! It's just more of his fly by the seat of his pants, make it up as he goes BS!! He still isn't taking this thing anywhere near as seriously as he should be imo. Make no mistake, I will be holding my nose and voting for him in November, but man oh man how I wish I could have seen Ted Cruz utterly destroy Hillary on that stage last night.


You and me both. The reality is he needs to get better and he needs to let them coach him. He's running against a woman and like it or not, he will be spun to look like a bully if the chance presents itself. I'm voting for him as well but I'm not jumping up and down about it. There are still a lot of things he says that no conservative should say and that concerns me.


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Are you guys this dumb or is it just an act?

HE WON THE DEBATE


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Originally Posted By: Beer Belly

Are you guys this dumb or is it just an act?

HE WON THE DEBATE




Him winning the debate is debatable and there rarely is a clear winner. Are you saying he doesn't need work with his debating skills?


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Originally Posted By: Recurve
Originally Posted By: Beer Belly

Are you guys this dumb or is it just an act?

HE WON THE DEBATE




Him winning the debate is debatable and there rarely is a clear winner. Are you saying he doesn't need work with his debating skills?

It's not debatable. HE WON!!!'
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It will be about a week before we know who actually "won" the debate. That's about how long it will take for the overall race polls to reflect the outcome of the debate.

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He could have put hillary in a choke hold and forced her to admit she has committed treason on national tv and the same five or six people would claim cruz would have done a better job.

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Trump did not win. He was totally unprepared and it showed. Probably boosted Gary Johnson in the ratings, if nothing else.

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He said on fox this morning at the end he almost brought up the whole Bill sex scandal but didn't because Hillary's daughter was present.


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She is a fake end of story !
She makes me vomit with her smirk and the fact she cost folks their lives and like Trump said you been at this for over 20 years and why havent you done anything , folks with her in office it only gets worse .

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Originally Posted By: BIG-AL
Originally Posted By: Recurve
Originally Posted By: Beer Belly

Are you guys this dumb or is it just an act?

HE WON THE DEBATE




Him winning the debate is debatable and there rarely is a clear winner. Are you saying he doesn't need work with his debating skills?

It's not debatable. HE WON!!!'
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Again, are we saying he doesn't need a lot of work? There were a lot of things he could have hit her on and he didn't. Her dishonesty, Benghazi, emails, etc, etc etc. He dropped the ball there and is lucky it hasn't hurt him. We want to complain about the liberal media but that is a given. Any republican is going to be trashed by them and every debate is always going to be a leg up for the democrat. He should have hit her on her record a lot harder than he did. He allowed that moderator to steer him away. He wasn't prepared. Period. That's all I'm saying...

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Did you not hear him bring up the emails? It went nowhere. If the press and the moderator will not force the issue it will go nowhere. Those issues are no secret, they ha e been out for years. What good is bringing them up to be brushed off in a debate going to do? What voter that is undecided cares about those issues?

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Even though overall I think HIllary gave a better debate, there were two things she was very clear on. She is going to raise taxes on everyone and also go after gun rights.

Maybe the rest of America realized that too.


He is apparently going after gun rights as well. He said that he agreed with her about the "No fly, no buy" nonsense, which is completely unconstitutional. Do you want a board of government employees determining your ability to purchase your next firearm? That's what Trump is advocating for.


So you're saying if a man can board a plane he should still be able to purchase a firearm


Not at all. Felons can board planes. You're missing the point.

A board of government employees (who knows who they are) decides who goes on the no fly list. What Trump and Hillary are advocating is that this list should also apply to the right to purchase a firearm. Do you want some anonymous bureaucrat deciding who can and who can't buy a gun without due process of law? Just do some quick research on no fly list "errors" and how long it takes to get the "error" corrected. I say "error" in quotes because if the government continues on it's current course, there will likely be a lot of us on that no fly list before too much longer.


Alabama rebel you weren't listening very well he said he agrees with it but added there has to be a way through the court system to get off the list. NRA also supports this. Most Americans agree with this.


Why should I have to go to court to get my Constitutional right back just because some idiot made a mistake? Now if you're talking about adding court (due process) to the beginning of the no fly list process, go for it. My whole issue is having my rights potentially taken away without due process then having to go through the headache of proving I'm not a terrorist.


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Originally Posted By: charlie
Did you not hear him bring up the emails? It went nowhere. If the press and the moderator will not force the issue it will go nowhere. Those issues are no secret, they ha e been out for years. What good is bringing them up to be brushed off in a debate going to do? What voter that is undecided cares about those issues?


No excuse. Obamacare? Clinton Foundation? Those are key issues that hit on her credibility and could sway a swing voter. That's where preparation comes in and he wasn't as prepared as he should have been. You can't expect a liberal networks moderator to bring those up so you have to be prepared enough to hit hard. I thought he started out pretty darn good, but he should have been coached on brushing off her personal attacks. It isn't hard to get under his skin. It got under his skin way to much and it showed. All you have to do is cast a negative light on his business or his wealth. She did and he took the bate.


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Swing voter? At this point? The only swing voters or undecided at this point are completely uninformed people who could care less about anything but what the government can give them and the Democrats have that category locked up. That's why she focused on what she would give you, like taxing the rich, minimum wage hikes, tuition , time off, profit sharing, equality in wages and demonizing the wealthy.

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Originally Posted By: charlie
Swing voter? At this point? The only swing voters or undecided at this point are completely uninformed people who could care less about anything but what the government can give them and the Democrats have that category locked up. That's why she focused on what she would give you, like taxing the rich, minimum wage hikes, tuition , time off, profit sharing, equality in wages and demonizing the wealthy.


Seriously?
Again remember on a scale of 0-100, with 100 being the most extreme conservative you are about a 96. There a lots of people that are still undecided. These are the people that decide the election.


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Again, I thought Hillary won, but I was looking at it from my perspective. The numbers tell a different story.


CNN - Clinton 62-27 (521 votes)
PPP - Clinton 51-40 (1,002 votes)
Star Tribune - Clinton 64-30 (2,400 votes)

Fortune - Trump 51-49 (439,000 votes)
Time - Trump 58-22 (409,000 votes)
CNBC - Trump 51-49 (220,000 votes)
CBS - Trump 58-42 (41,000 votes)
Fox - Trump 61-34
Drudge - Trump 81-18 (9,000 votes)
Breitbart - Trump 76-24 ((169,700 votes)
WCPO - Trump 60-35 (3,700 votes)
SD Tribune - Trump 66-34 (1871 votes)
ABC - Trump 63-37 (10,700 votes)
Slate - Trump 54-46 (42, 418 votes)
LV Sun - Trump 81-19
Wash Times - Trump 71-22 (6,000 votes)
Variety - Trump 52-48 (36,490 votes)


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Trump did not win. He was totally unprepared and it showed. Probably boosted Gary Johnson in the ratings, if nothing else.

The numbers say otherwise.


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Did you not hear him bring up the emails? It went nowhere. If the press and the moderator will not force the issue it will go nowhere.


Here's one difference, IMO.

He brought them up. She responded without a long dissertation, defense, wild gesticulations, anger or anything. She did what veteran pols do: answer, deflect or admit without really doing so, and then be quiet. Should the moderator have pressed? Sure. He didn't though. But she knows that is one fact about politics: no long-winded speeches, nothing long and drawn out in which you could contradict yourself or provide fodder for the opponent later. Short answers. Sorta like football coaches.

Trump gets hit on past taxes, just for an example, and goes bananas. He acted at times like an 8th grader accused of pulling Susie's pigtails trying to defend and say he didn't do it. He absolutely cannot help himself because of his ego, and HRC and the Dems know this. However, he did have some solid moments and I think performed pretty well in the show.

He'll get better by the second debate.


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I don't know what is worse, the fact that the two ass clowns on stage last night are our only choices. Or that folks think Trump won that debate last night as is indicated by the polls. Our only other option is this guy:




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Go prop her back up in the corner she is done , i was hoping she was gonna go down before it was over last night .

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The only thing people are undecided on is whether they will get off their ass and vote. That's where trump wins these debates. These debates are pep rallies. Clinton is doing nothing to energize the undecided or uninspired voters. She isn't getting anyone to the polls that wasn't going already. That's a win for trump. The electorate is already slanted to the democrats. Best we can hope for is that they stay home and republicans go to the polls.

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Originally Posted By: charlie
Swing voter? At this point? The only swing voters or undecided at this point are completely uninformed people who could care less about anything but what the government can give them and the Democrats have that category locked up. That's why she focused on what she would give you, like taxing the rich, minimum wage hikes, tuition , time off, profit sharing, equality in wages and demonizing the wealthy.


Seriously?
Again remember on a scale of 0-100, with 100 being the most extreme conservative you are about a 96. There a lots of people that are still undecided. These are the people that decide the election.


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When she attacked his business, he should have ask about the CLINTON FOUNDATION. Why is it located in Canada ? Its because they can't be forced to release who has been pouring millions into it.
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If you have three debates, why would you unload your clip on the first one? Throw a few jabs, enough to get her ticked and see what she throws back.
She unloaded on him last night and you could tell by her smug smiles. He got popped a couple times but that was her best and according to the "pols" it didn't resonate. Now he knows what she is going to do and can correct from there.
However, he still has PLENTY to hit her on in the next two debates.

at least that is how I see it.


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Trump negotiates. He doesn't lay all his cards on the table at the first discussion. He may throw a fit or get pissy. But he won't reveal everything up front at first. Whatever he has done or his father set up for him financially or whatever, he's pretty adept at making deals, compromising, negotiating and getting things done.

What's so incredibly sad is all of the liberals screaming about how terrible he is, how he showed and proved how horrible he is last night and that anyone at all who could vote for him must be mentally challenged are just 100% blind to their abject love and fealty to Clinton despite all of her and her husband's misdeeds.


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Martha Raddatz and Anderson (pickle puffer) Cooper are the mods of the next debate and they won't make it any easier on Trump, but I still think he has the edge over Hitlary with a lot of good debate points.

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If you go by the technical rules of *actual* formal debate, Hitlary slaughtered Trump. She scored literally ten times the points - and in a formal debate it is all about scoring points.

I did this in college and practiced with the university debate team. It is very sophisticated. And technical. And about scoring points, and whoever scores the most points based on the RULES of Formal Debate, that person wins and advances in the competition.

Now, virtually no one goes by technical debating rules/standards and they just go by feelings, perceptions, personalities, preferences, pre-conceieved notions/biases etc.

So we are left with a hodge podge of feelings and outlooks about the debate. Trump didn't bomb, which was possible. But he was weak and didn't seem prepared for details and did not bring the hard counter punches on what should have been big hits on HRC. And Clinton didn't stroke out and keel over (as I hoped she would).

Trump is clearly not a facts and figures guy.
He is not a technician.
He is a macro generalities guy.

Hitlary is pure globalist socialist anti-Christian but is expert at spinning her crap to sound like a patriotic American.

Trump failed to go for her jugular on emails, Benghazi, incompetency as Sec. State re Libya, Syria, Russia and China.

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Anything can happen going forward.

But one thing is clear: two most pathetic candidates in U.S. history (in terms of two at one time in the same election).


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Trump was too focused on defending his ego/her accusations and needed to spend the time destroying her! I'm sure he'll be coached up before the next debate!


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Trump was too focused on defending his ego/her accusations and needed to spend the time destroying her! I'm sure he'll be coached up before the next debate!


Yep. He told us how proud he was of himself countless times. He needs a heavy dose of adderall so he can stay on track a slaughter that cunt.

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Trump could have done better

Morris had it laid out pretty well beforehand, Trump probably should've read this before the debate...
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I know 1 thing. I will not watch the other debates. I'm done.


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Trump was too focused on defending his ego/her accusations and needed to spend the time destroying her! I'm sure he'll be coached up before the next debate!


Yep. He told us how proud he was of himself countless times. He needs a heavy dose of adderall so he can stay on track a slaughter that cunt.



And you would think as much as he loves golf that when she teed it up for him he would have come out of his shoes swinging. Like when she bragged about being in front of a congressional hearing for eleven hours. That's not something to be proud of especially when four Americans died and it was her fault! He whiffed it big time.


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Originally Posted By: Beer Belly

Are you guys this dumb or is it just an act?

HE WON THE DEBATE




I really couldn't tell you whether he won it or not because I quit watching it around 1/2 way through. Every time I hear that idiot say "bigly" I just want to rip my ears off the side of my head. Apparently he has some knack for making money, at least he's quick to tell you so, but it's going to take way more than that to be the leader of this nation. The only thing he has going for him in my book is the fact that HRC is the most evil, wicked politician I have ever seen or read about. Her husband is a boy scout by comparison. She will be worse than our current President and if she gets her hands on the SC this nation is done, absolutely done. It will cease to exist as founded and never will again. This is no game people. So yes I will vote for that clown but only because the alternative is unthinkable.

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I know 1 thing. I will not watch the other debates. I'm done.
I watched about 5 minutes of last night's debate. I couldn't stomach another second of listening to such nonsense come out of those two idiots' mouths. What a sad state of affairs that we have to vote for THAT. Pathetic!!!!

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Keep in mind, its not what us rednecks here in Alabama thinks that counts, its what those fence sitters in the swing states think that counts.


Thats a little too simplistic. What really matters is who will actually go to the polling place and vote. I think alot of polls are skewed because it is just someone answering the phone at home. There was no effort on HRC "supporters". But to actually get up, drive to the polling place, find a park, and go inside and vote does take effort.

And just about everybody agrees that there is not very much excitement on HRC side. Her rallies have small crowds and she has so few. Sometimes just a couple per week.

Trump on the other hand has very excited crowds. Large crowds and does multiple rallies every day. These people will make the effort to vote. I dont think we will see a huge democrat turnout because of this. People were excited to vote for the first (half) black president, but nobody really cares about granny Clinton.

I understand her being tired all the time. I am not as old as her and could not go like that. I do not know where Trump gets his energy.


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And I just want to vomit every time he explains why he screwed all those people out of their money by saying "hey, thats the law. The law allowed me to do it. If you don't like it you need to change the law. It's just business". Bullshiite! If he were any kind of a man at all he should have liquidated however many of his precious properties as it took to pay those people what he owed. How much money did he spend on his lawyers to let him wiggle his way through the "law"? Doing what's right should always trump the "law". HRC is evil but DJT is not a decent human being.

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Or police randomly frisking you because you "Might" have a weapon and you "Might" be about to commit a crime.


He's making democrat policies great again.


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The crazy Trump loving lunatics are becoming just as bad as the Hillary lovers. It's pathetic.

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Now that we've had a week or so to let the polls reflect what was actually was taken from the debate, the numbers don't look so rosy.

Scroll down to the second chart, and you can see the Clinton's lead growing post debate. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#plus

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Originally Posted By: crenshawco
Now that we've had a week or so to let the polls reflect what was actually was taken from the debate, the numbers don't look so rosy.

Scroll down to the second chart, and you can see the Clinton's lead growing post debate. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#plus


As long as he is incapable of not letting personal attacks drag on and drag on, he is not going to keep track of her in the polls. I despise HRC, but one thing she is good at is the political game. She is poised and doesn't lose control when she is attacked.


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Originally Posted By: Recurve
Originally Posted By: crenshawco
Now that we've had a week or so to let the polls reflect what was actually was taken from the debate, the numbers don't look so rosy.

Scroll down to the second chart, and you can see the Clinton's lead growing post debate. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#plus


As long as he is incapable of not letting personal attacks drag on and drag on, he is not going to keep track of her in the polls. I despise HRC, but one thing she is good at is the political game. She is poised and doesn't lose control when she is attacked.
Trump just acts like a little kid would....

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