Him winning the debate is debatable and there rarely is a clear winner. Are you saying he doesn't need work with his debating skills?
I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There�s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. � Ronald Reagan
Re: Trump Won Debate - You are 100% wrong
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#1858204 09/27/1604:50 AM09/27/1604:50 AM
It will be about a week before we know who actually "won" the debate. That's about how long it will take for the overall race polls to reflect the outcome of the debate.
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#1858206 09/27/1604:54 AM09/27/1604:54 AM
He could have put hillary in a choke hold and forced her to admit she has committed treason on national tv and the same five or six people would claim cruz would have done a better job.
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#1858207 09/27/1604:55 AM09/27/1604:55 AM
She is a fake end of story ! She makes me vomit with her smirk and the fact she cost folks their lives and like Trump said you been at this for over 20 years and why havent you done anything , folks with her in office it only gets worse .
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#1858212 09/27/1604:59 AM09/27/1604:59 AM
Him winning the debate is debatable and there rarely is a clear winner. Are you saying he doesn't need work with his debating skills?
It's not debatable. HE WON!!!' .
Again, are we saying he doesn't need a lot of work? There were a lot of things he could have hit her on and he didn't. Her dishonesty, Benghazi, emails, etc, etc etc. He dropped the ball there and is lucky it hasn't hurt him. We want to complain about the liberal media but that is a given. Any republican is going to be trashed by them and every debate is always going to be a leg up for the democrat. He should have hit her on her record a lot harder than he did. He allowed that moderator to steer him away. He wasn't prepared. Period. That's all I'm saying...
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I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There�s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. � Ronald Reagan
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#1858216 09/27/1605:03 AM09/27/1605:03 AM
Did you not hear him bring up the emails? It went nowhere. If the press and the moderator will not force the issue it will go nowhere. Those issues are no secret, they ha e been out for years. What good is bringing them up to be brushed off in a debate going to do? What voter that is undecided cares about those issues?
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#1858234 09/27/1605:17 AM09/27/1605:17 AM
Even though overall I think HIllary gave a better debate, there were two things she was very clear on. She is going to raise taxes on everyone and also go after gun rights.
Maybe the rest of America realized that too.
He is apparently going after gun rights as well. He said that he agreed with her about the "No fly, no buy" nonsense, which is completely unconstitutional. Do you want a board of government employees determining your ability to purchase your next firearm? That's what Trump is advocating for.
So you're saying if a man can board a plane he should still be able to purchase a firearm
Not at all. Felons can board planes. You're missing the point.
A board of government employees (who knows who they are) decides who goes on the no fly list. What Trump and Hillary are advocating is that this list should also apply to the right to purchase a firearm. Do you want some anonymous bureaucrat deciding who can and who can't buy a gun without due process of law? Just do some quick research on no fly list "errors" and how long it takes to get the "error" corrected. I say "error" in quotes because if the government continues on it's current course, there will likely be a lot of us on that no fly list before too much longer.
Alabama rebel you weren't listening very well he said he agrees with it but added there has to be a way through the court system to get off the list. NRA also supports this. Most Americans agree with this.
Why should I have to go to court to get my Constitutional right back just because some idiot made a mistake? Now if you're talking about adding court (due process) to the beginning of the no fly list process, go for it. My whole issue is having my rights potentially taken away without due process then having to go through the headache of proving I'm not a terrorist.
Diane: Am I interrupting something important?
Ron Swanson: Impossible. I work for the government.
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#1858242 09/27/1605:22 AM09/27/1605:22 AM
Did you not hear him bring up the emails? It went nowhere. If the press and the moderator will not force the issue it will go nowhere. Those issues are no secret, they ha e been out for years. What good is bringing them up to be brushed off in a debate going to do? What voter that is undecided cares about those issues?
No excuse. Obamacare? Clinton Foundation? Those are key issues that hit on her credibility and could sway a swing voter. That's where preparation comes in and he wasn't as prepared as he should have been. You can't expect a liberal networks moderator to bring those up so you have to be prepared enough to hit hard. I thought he started out pretty darn good, but he should have been coached on brushing off her personal attacks. It isn't hard to get under his skin. It got under his skin way to much and it showed. All you have to do is cast a negative light on his business or his wealth. She did and he took the bate.
I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There�s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. � Ronald Reagan
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#1858247 09/27/1605:31 AM09/27/1605:31 AM
Swing voter? At this point? The only swing voters or undecided at this point are completely uninformed people who could care less about anything but what the government can give them and the Democrats have that category locked up. That's why she focused on what she would give you, like taxing the rich, minimum wage hikes, tuition , time off, profit sharing, equality in wages and demonizing the wealthy.
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[Re: charlie]
#1858254 09/27/1605:37 AM09/27/1605:37 AM
Swing voter? At this point? The only swing voters or undecided at this point are completely uninformed people who could care less about anything but what the government can give them and the Democrats have that category locked up. That's why she focused on what she would give you, like taxing the rich, minimum wage hikes, tuition , time off, profit sharing, equality in wages and demonizing the wealthy.
Seriously? Again remember on a scale of 0-100, with 100 being the most extreme conservative you are about a 96. There a lots of people that are still undecided. These are the people that decide the election.
Did you not hear him bring up the emails? It went nowhere. If the press and the moderator will not force the issue it will go nowhere.
Here's one difference, IMO.
He brought them up. She responded without a long dissertation, defense, wild gesticulations, anger or anything. She did what veteran pols do: answer, deflect or admit without really doing so, and then be quiet. Should the moderator have pressed? Sure. He didn't though. But she knows that is one fact about politics: no long-winded speeches, nothing long and drawn out in which you could contradict yourself or provide fodder for the opponent later. Short answers. Sorta like football coaches.
Trump gets hit on past taxes, just for an example, and goes bananas. He acted at times like an 8th grader accused of pulling Susie's pigtails trying to defend and say he didn't do it. He absolutely cannot help himself because of his ego, and HRC and the Dems know this. However, he did have some solid moments and I think performed pretty well in the show.
He'll get better by the second debate.
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[Re: charlie]
#1858272 09/27/1605:49 AM09/27/1605:49 AM
I don't know what is worse, the fact that the two ass clowns on stage last night are our only choices. Or that folks think Trump won that debate last night as is indicated by the polls. Our only other option is this guy:
Sad freaking times we are living in...sad times
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#1858275 09/27/1605:54 AM09/27/1605:54 AM