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Question for military/guard/law enforcement? #1856788
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Not trying to be inflammatory but what will you do when your superior officer orders you to uphold sharia law or any law that violates the Constitution?

Are you currently or have you previously upheld any order from a superior officer which violates the constitution of The United States of America, i.e. gun confiscation in New Orleans following hurricane Katrina?

Obviously there is no requirement for any of you to answer but I would really appreciate your reassurance that you would defy those unlawful orders should they come, ... and they will.

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Follow up question, and please believe me, even though I know it probably will, it is not my desire to stir anything up but how many of you actually know what the Constitution says? I would hope that all of you do but understand if maybe some brushing up might be in order. I know I could use a brush up and I think I will do just that over the next week or so.

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856878
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That would be an unlawful order in the Military and soldiers are sworn to protect the Constitution.You can not be ordered to follow an unlawful order.That is in UCMJ, universal code of military justice.


Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

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If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856883
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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856884
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I think OP has his tinfoil fedora too tight & has been chugging the Alex Jones koolaid.

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856885
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When the time comes, most soldiers will probably follow orders, no matter what the order is. We've seen that time and time again throughout history.

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Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
I think OP has his tinfoil fedora too tight & has been chugging the Alex Jones koolaid.


You live in a cocoon if you think it couldn't happen here. Every single empire falls. Every. single. one.

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856891
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What perch said. Also, If I where given an unconstitutional order by a superior I would then treat that as a threat. The oath say's against all enemies foreign and domestic.


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: leroycnbucks] #1856900
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What perch said. Also, If I where given an unconstitutional order by a superior I would then treat that as a threat. The oath say's against all enemies foreign and domestic.


Kinda like how all the politicians take an oath to uphold the constitution but then passed the Patriot act, in direct opposition to the 4th amendment? There aren't many folks that will stand up to authority, plain and simple.

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Remington270] #1856938
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Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
I think OP has his tinfoil fedora too tight & has been chugging the Alex Jones koolaid.


You live in a cocoon if you think it couldn't happen here. Every single empire falls. Every. single. one.


^^^This


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Abram] #1856947
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Originally Posted By: Abram
Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
I think OP has his tinfoil fedora too tight & has been chugging the Alex Jones koolaid.


You live in a cocoon if you think it couldn't happen here. Every single empire falls. Every. single. one.


^^^This
Yup. Half the the folks in my brother n laws unit are liberal loving phuggs


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Everyone. All of them...

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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856963
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james they are dumbasses, liberals never give Military a raise. Republicans do.


Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

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Originally Posted By: perchjerker
james they are dumbasses, liberals never give Military a raise. Republicans do.
True. But they have been purging the military of good ole boys for sometime now, they want Young bucks that can be brainwashed. Man I could tell ya some stories but it would take to long to type lol..


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: James] #1856987
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Originally Posted By: James
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
james they are dumbasses, liberals never give Military a raise. Republicans do.
True. But they have been purging the military of good ole boys for sometime now, they want Young bucks that can be brainwashed. Man I could tell ya some stories but it would take to long to type lol..


They've definitely been structuring the military much differently than in the past. Gays, women in direct combat and special forces.


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856993
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In my day no soldier would have accepted a fag in his foxhole or
showers.


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Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

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Originally Posted By: Remington270
When the time comes, most soldiers will probably follow orders, no matter what the order is. We've seen that time and time again throughout history.


Sad but true.

One day the U.S. military will be under the control
of AntiChrist along with all the other militaries of the world.


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: AU7MM08] #1857567
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Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
I think OP has his tinfoil fedora too tight & has been chugging the Alex Jones koolaid.


I don't really care for Alex Jones but it is a historical fact that law enforcement confiscated firearms from law abiding citizens of this country following hurricane Katrina. I wish I knew how to get the video on here. I've seen video of on scene interviews with guardsmen telling how uncomfortable they were doing what they were doing, and yet, ... they were doing it. I don't know his name and am not sure of his position but I think it was the police chief for New Orleans standing at a podium at a press conference confirming that no one would be allowed to be armed.

No conspiracy thinking here just a clear view of history.

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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1857702
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Originally Posted By: Smells
Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
I think OP has his tinfoil fedora too tight & has been chugging the Alex Jones koolaid.


I don't really care for Alex Jones but it is a historical fact that law enforcement confiscated firearms from law abiding citizens of this country following hurricane Katrina. I wish I knew how to get the video on here. I've seen video of on scene interviews with guardsmen telling how uncomfortable they were doing what they were doing, and yet, ... they were doing it. I don't know his name and am not sure of his position but I think it was the police chief for New Orleans standing at a podium at a press conference confirming that no one would be allowed to be armed.

No conspiracy thinking here just a clear view of history.

Spot on.


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1857744
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Anyone who thinks police and military will not take up guns if ask or told to do so, are naive.

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That Auburn BOY puts his foot in his mouth everytime he opens it.


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Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

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Originally Posted By: doekiller
Anyone who thinks police and military will not take up guns if ask or told to do so, are naive.


I agree.


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The Radical Left of globalist atheist Marxists have been working 24/7/365 for 50+ years to totally transform the USA from a constitutional and federal republic under God the Holy Trinity into a atheistic secularist Babylonish Marxist mish mash.

And that strategy includes transforming the U.S. military into one dominated by atheists, homosexuals, lesbians, transgenders, Wiccans, anti-White racists, and anti-Christian bigots.

Just as we see the scales tipping in favor of the Radical Left in this country it includes what has been done to the military.

And another thing that has been going on is the "global citizen" brainwashing that is also going on both inside and outside the military.

Eventually the scales will be tipped in the military and it will be dominated by people as described about who will not hesitate to confiscate guns and Bibles and kill anyone who resists the NWO Babylon.

Someone started a thread on this:


http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/09/26/na...national-anthem

That sort of garbage is just the beginning.


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Originally Posted By: perchjerker
That would be an unlawful order in the Military and soldiers are sworn to protect the Constitution.You can not be ordered to follow an unlawful order.That is in UCMJ, universal code of military justice.


That is in UCMJ, uniform code of military justice.

Fixed it for you.


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How can anyone here say with certainty that our military and/or law enforcement would blindly take up arms against us? That's laughable to me.

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Originally Posted By: JDR4Bama
How can anyone here say with certainty that our military and/or law enforcement would blindly take up arms against us? That's laughable to me.


No one can say with certainty, however if you look at history, it has been done over and over again. Your ignorant to think that it could never happen.

I'm sure those citizens felt like it couldn't happen to them in the good ole Soviet Union, Germany, Turkey, Guatemala and recently Australia.

Australia, a country very similar to the US, was able to confiscate 600,000 weapons from their civil society, without any fight whatsoever.

Look at all of these gun buy-back programs. Well how do you think Australia got away with confiscating guns? By making gun buy-back programs mandatory.

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Originally Posted By: JDR4Bama
How can anyone here say with certainty that our military and/or law enforcement would blindly take up arms against us? That's laughable to me.
Last 3 mass shootings against police officers we're ex military just sayin


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Originally Posted By: JDR4Bama
How can anyone here say with certainty that our military and/or law enforcement would blindly take up arms against us? That's laughable to me.


I know quite a few Police Officers...and only one Ive ever spoken with said he would follow orders.
The rest said theyd turn in their badge and go home.
Not too much longetivity doing that they feel...especially in the country areas.

If you live in a city...maybe.

Katrina was a National disaster and youre talking about a smaller area.
Confiscate peoples firearms across the country...I dont think so.
There aint enough soldiers or cops...and NOONE is going to order that anyway.

If we cant deport 12 million illegals howwinthehell could we confiscate 260 million freakin guns???

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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: JDR4Bama
How can anyone here say with certainty that our military and/or law enforcement would blindly take up arms against us? That's laughable to me.


I know quite a few Police Officers...and only one Ive ever spoken with said he would follow orders.
The rest said theyd turn in their badge and go home.
Not too much longetivity doing that they feel...especially in the country areas.

If you live in a city...maybe.

Katrina was a National disaster and youre talking about a smaller area.
Confiscate peoples firearms across the country...I dont think so.
There aint enough soldiers or cops...and NOONE is going to order that anyway.

If we cant deport 12 million illegals howwinthehell could we confiscate 260 million freakin guns???


It never ceases to amaze me that we, as Americans, think that bad things that have happened other places can't happen here.

It's easy for a cop to say he'd turn in his badge, until it comes time to do so. Wife has a car payment, kids need food. My money is on him keeping working and shrugging his shoulders.

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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: JDR4Bama
How can anyone here say with certainty that our military and/or law enforcement would blindly take up arms against us? That's laughable to me.


I know quite a few Police Officers...and only one Ive ever spoken with said he would follow orders.
The rest said theyd turn in their badge and go home.
Not too much longetivity doing that they feel...especially in the country areas.

If you live in a city...maybe.

Katrina was a National disaster and youre talking about a smaller area.
Confiscate peoples firearms across the country...I dont think so.
There aint enough soldiers or cops...and NOONE is going to order that anyway.

If we cant deport 12 million illegals howwinthehell could we confiscate 260 million freakin guns???


So you're suggesting that because Katrina was a national disaster that only affected the locale it was acceptable to confiscate guns?

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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: JDR4Bama
How can anyone here say with certainty that our military and/or law enforcement would blindly take up arms against us? That's laughable to me.


I know quite a few Police Officers...and only one Ive ever spoken with said he would follow orders.
The rest said theyd turn in their badge and go home.
Not too much longetivity doing that they feel...especially in the country areas.

If you live in a city...maybe.

Katrina was a National disaster and youre talking about a smaller area.
Confiscate peoples firearms across the country...I dont think so.
There aint enough soldiers or cops...and NOONE is going to order that anyway.

If we cant deport 12 million illegals howwinthehell could we confiscate 260 million freakin guns???


How naive you are. The federal government can and will do whatever it wants and the people who work for the government will, largely, do whatever they are told to do. If Washington wanted to deport 12 million illegals they'd be gone.
When they decide the time is right to come get your guns and take away your liberty it will be done and you can't stop them. The only power you have is to decide whether you will comply or die.

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Remington270] #1858534
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When the time comes, most soldiers will probably follow orders, no matter what the order is. We've seen that time and time again throughout history.


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1858575
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You would probably have heard a lot of "it wouldn't happen here" or "they would never turn on their own" around here in 1860.
The American Civil War took place from 1861 until 1865.
It has happened here before, and I do believe it could happen here again.


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Spottedbass] #1858674
09/27/16 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: Spottedbass
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: JDR4Bama
How can anyone here say with certainty that our military and/or law enforcement would blindly take up arms against us? That's laughable to me.


I know quite a few Police Officers...and only one Ive ever spoken with said he would follow orders.
The rest said theyd turn in their badge and go home.
Not too much longetivity doing that they feel...especially in the country areas.

If you live in a city...maybe.

Katrina was a National disaster and youre talking about a smaller area.
Confiscate peoples firearms across the country...I dont think so.
There aint enough soldiers or cops...and NOONE is going to order that anyway.

If we cant deport 12 million illegals howwinthehell could we confiscate 260 million freakin guns???


So you're suggesting that because Katrina was a national disaster that only affected the locale it was acceptable to confiscate guns?


Wow..reading comprehension isnt your strong point is it?
I was saying that it was a much smaller area then the whole freakin UNITED STATES. It was a city....population all in ONE area...not spread out over 3,718,710 sq. miles !

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: ] #1858684
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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: Spottedbass
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: JDR4Bama
How can anyone here say with certainty that our military and/or law enforcement would blindly take up arms against us? That's laughable to me.


I know quite a few Police Officers...and only one Ive ever spoken with said he would follow orders.
The rest said theyd turn in their badge and go home.
Not too much longetivity doing that they feel...especially in the country areas.

If you live in a city...maybe.

Katrina was a National disaster and youre talking about a smaller area.
Confiscate peoples firearms across the country...I dont think so.
There aint enough soldiers or cops...and NOONE is going to order that anyway.

If we cant deport 12 million illegals howwinthehell could we confiscate 260 million freakin guns???


So you're suggesting that because Katrina was a national disaster that only affected the locale it was acceptable to confiscate guns?


Wow..reading comprehension isnt your strong point is it?
I was saying that it was a much smaller area then the whole freakin UNITED STATES. It was a city....population all in ONE area...not spread out over 3,718,710 sq. miles !


Misinterpreted what you said...thought you were saying that it's okay during some circumstances. We on the same page pal.

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1858685
09/27/16 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Smells
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: JDR4Bama
How can anyone here say with certainty that our military and/or law enforcement would blindly take up arms against us? That's laughable to me.


I know quite a few Police Officers...and only one Ive ever spoken with said he would follow orders.
The rest said theyd turn in their badge and go home.
Not too much longetivity doing that they feel...especially in the country areas.

If you live in a city...maybe.

Katrina was a National disaster and youre talking about a smaller area.
Confiscate peoples firearms across the country...I dont think so.
There aint enough soldiers or cops...and NOONE is going to order that anyway.

If we cant deport 12 million illegals howwinthehell could we confiscate 260 million freakin guns???


How naive you are. The federal government can and will do whatever it wants and the people who work for the government will, largely, do whatever they are told to do. If Washington wanted to deport 12 million illegals they'd be gone.
When they decide the time is right to come get your guns and take away your liberty it will be done and you can't stop them. The only power you have is to decide whether you will comply or die.




LOL.. Naive aint me son. Ive been ALL around this world...and country. How about you?
Whatever. You can choose to pee down your leg when the time comes but a lot of people have a lot more spine then you obviously.

Its how Americans are. When the time comes...enough people will stand. Only 3% of the population has fought all this countries wars.

If not,..wed be speaking English, or Japanese or German.

Dam.there are some serious idiots on here lately. Youve been added to the "IGNORE this Arse hat" list.


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Spottedbass] #1858686
09/27/16 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: Spottedbass
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: Spottedbass
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: JDR4Bama
How can anyone here say with certainty that our military and/or law enforcement would blindly take up arms against us? That's laughable to me.


I know quite a few Police Officers...and only one Ive ever spoken with said he would follow orders.
The rest said theyd turn in their badge and go home.
Not too much longetivity doing that they feel...especially in the country areas.

If you live in a city...maybe.

Katrina was a National disaster and youre talking about a smaller area.
Confiscate peoples firearms across the country...I dont think so.
There aint enough soldiers or cops...and NOONE is going to order that anyway.

If we cant deport 12 million illegals howwinthehell could we confiscate 260 million freakin guns???


So you're suggesting that because Katrina was a national disaster that only affected the locale it was acceptable to confiscate guns?


Wow..reading comprehension isnt your strong point is it?
I was saying that it was a much smaller area then the whole freakin UNITED STATES. It was a city....population all in ONE area...not spread out over 3,718,710 sq. miles !


Misinterpreted what you said...thought you were saying that it's okay during some circumstances. We on the same page pal.


No problem buddy. I DONT think it is right to EVER take Americans guns.

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1858689
09/27/16 12:32 PM
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The hook is that no one will ever say "Go take all their guns"...it comes in bits and pieces, diguised as situational measures for "the public good". A lot of military and police won't even recognize it for what it is, and a lot of them won't make waves for fear of losing their job. "I felt uneasy about it" or "It didn't feel right" is heard a lot from those who confiscated guns after Katrina, but they still went and did it, and whether it's in one particular location or nationwide, it's the same thing and it's illegal...but it happened, and it'll happen again. Maybe in a different place, under a different circumstance, but eventually with increasing frequency until it no longer matters if it's recognized or not. This is what they do.

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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: DEADorALIVE] #1858693
09/27/16 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: DEADorALIVE
The hook is that no one will ever say "Go take all their guns"...it comes in bits and pieces, diguised as situational measures for "the public good". A lot of military and police won't even recognize it for what it is, and a lot of them won't make waves for fear of losing their job. "I felt uneasy about it" or "It didn't feel right" is heard a lot from those who confiscated guns after Katrina, but they still went and did it, and whether it's in one particular location or nationwide, it's the same thing and it's illegal...but it happened, and it'll happen again. Maybe in a different place, under a different circumstance, but eventually with increasing frequency until it no longer matters if it's recognized or not. This is what they do.


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: DEADorALIVE] #1858702
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Originally Posted By: DEADorALIVE
The hook is that no one will ever say "Go take all their guns"...it comes in bits and pieces, diguised as situational measures for "the public good". A lot of military and police won't even recognize it for what it is, and a lot of them won't make waves for fear of losing their job. "I felt uneasy about it" or "It didn't feel right" is heard a lot from those who confiscated guns after Katrina, but they still went and did it, and whether it's in one particular location or nationwide, it's the same thing and it's illegal...but it happened, and it'll happen again. Maybe in a different place, under a different circumstance, but eventually with increasing frequency until it no longer matters if it's recognized or not. This is what they do.


So true.

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1858706
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...and not just for gun control, they do it for Control, period.
ATF raided the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, out of concern for "the children"...since when does the ATF make child welfare checks? Granted, David Koresh was a fruit loop, but even that made him a better choice for the government to test flexing their muscles on...

Who didn't know that the seizure of Bundy's cattle a few years back was unlawful? But milita went and took them back. Something similar will happen again, and I guarantee the outcome will be very different. The Bureau of Land Management, and a couple other agencies, wound up with a lot of egg on their faces over that one...next time will be different.

All these incidents are constantly portrayed as "conspiracy theories", and I'm not necessarily saying that all of them were orchestrated events, but I promise there are sinister aspects of our government who absolutely do not waste the opportunities presented to push, test, and learn from them. The whole thing can be later attributed to having been necessary because so-and-so was an extremist. Note how they smirk in the news when someone is labelled as a "survivalist", "prepper", or "right wing militia member". The tone is being set so that the next time something like this comes up, it can be blamed on the lunatic fringe, rather than government over-reach.

Hildabeast's campaign says that everything negative the GOP says about her is part of a "vast conspiracy theory", too, but damn!...after a while, even Ray Charles could see that where there's smoke, there's fire.


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