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Re: Sexual assault in prisons [Re: Atoler] #1842813
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
I have no problem with rape in prisons, ought the be good incentive to stay out of there.


Well, I agree with that concept as a deterrent on the face of it, but what about the fine upstanding man who all his life, paid his taxes, went to church, contributed to the community, and one day he finds one of his womenfolk raped and/ or murdered, and he apprehends and tortures the perp to death? Agaist the law, but justified as a man.

That's an extreme example, but I'm just playing devils advocate here.

Personally, if I was ever incarcerated, I would try to treat staff as good as possible and obey orders out of respect, but every time I laid eyes on any inmate, I would try to beat him to death, beginning with the biggest one. They would be compelled to put me in solitary, I hope. Yes, that might be naive thinking on my part.

Most institutions around here are run by corporations that bid out the incarceration process.



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I have no problem with rape in prisons, ought the be good incentive to stay out of there.


Some people make mistakes that get them sent to prison.


Sure, a mistake = a choice. With 3 free meals, a roof over your head, and free cable, we've got too many people that are fine with going straight back in. Some minor risk of rape, is part of incarceration.

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I have no problem with rape in prisons, ought the be good incentive to stay out of there.


Well, I agree with that concept as a deterrent on the face of it, but what about the fine upstanding man who all his life, paid his taxes, went to church, contributed to the community, and one day he finds one of his womenfolk raped and/ or murdered, and he apprehends and tortures the perp to death? Agaist the law, but justified as a man.

That's an extreme example, but I'm just plating devils advocate here.

Personally, if I was ever incarcerated, I would try to treat staff as good as possible and obey orders out of respect, but every time I laid eyes on any inmate, I would try to beat him to death, beginning with the biggest one. They would be compelled to put me in solitary, I hope. Yes, that might be naive thinking on my part.

Most institutions around here are run by corporations that bid out the incarceration process.


so are you saying that we should focus our limited resources on protecting that percentile? Sounds like BLM. You have an unsubstantial portion that are wrongly accosted, yet lets turn all the lights on that event and ignore the root problem of the masses.

Re: Sexual assault in prisons [Re: Remington270] #1842822
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Atoler, I don't know what the answer is. As others have mentioned, there is a segment of the prison population that is not part of any horrible crime.

I do see your point and argument, and it is valid. Generally, most folks in prison belong there.

I don't support BLM or anything like that concept, so no.



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Originally Posted By: Atoler
I have no problem with rape in prisons, ought the be good incentive to stay out of there.


Are you kidding? Rape = HIV = death.

So some of the lesser felonies should be punished by death? Wow

And if that's the case, should we actually sentence them to death upfront?

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Re: Sexual assault in prisons [Re: Remington270] #1842838
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I've had a black prison guard tell me "A pretty little white boy like you wouldn't stand a chance in there". That was eye opening.

Re: Sexual assault in prisons [Re: Remington270] #1842846
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Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: Atoler
I have no problem with rape in prisons, ought the be good incentive to stay out of there.


Are you kidding? Rape = HIV = death.

So some of the lesser felonies should be punished by death? Wow

And if that's the case, should we actually sentence them to death upfront?


Stay out of prison, pretty simple concept.


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Re: Sexual assault in prisons [Re: IDOT] #1842854
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I have no problem with rape in prisons, ought the be good incentive to stay out of there.


Are you kidding? Rape = HIV = death.

So some of the lesser felonies should be punished by death? Wow

And if that's the case, should we actually sentence them to death upfront?


Stay out of prison, pretty simple concept.


Pretty much my point.

But to expound on your sequence. Committing a felony >prison > potential for rape >chance for hiv > eventual death. So let's not act like a large portion unwillingly end up with hiv.

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Why is this on ALDEER in the first place ? I've seen some crazy threads , and started some. This kind of thread never crossed my mind. I'm wondering why you started it !


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If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

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Originally Posted By: perchjerker
Why is this on ALDEER in the first place ? I've seen some crazy threads , and started some. This kind of thread never crossed my mind. I'm wondering why you started it !


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Why is this on ALDEER in the first place ? I've seen some crazy threads , and started some. This kind of thread never crossed my mind. I'm wondering why you started it !


Hey, y'all have beat to death the diaper wearing habits of a 70 year old woman sooooooo I wouldn't even go there. laugh

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So let me get this straight CNC, you are offended by threads about woman.Threads about raping men are more to your interest ?


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Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Sexual assault in prisons [Re: IDOT] #1842909
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Originally Posted By: IDOT
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
I have no problem with rape in prisons, ought the be good incentive to stay out of there.


Are you kidding? Rape = HIV = death.

So some of the lesser felonies should be punished by death? Wow

And if that's the case, should we actually sentence them to death upfront?


Stay out of prison, pretty simple concept.


That's like saying "don't do anything wrong and the police won't have to search your property". Thankfully the founding fathers had the 4th amendment to protect the innocent and allow for due process.

And Atoler, I think you'd be amazed at the % of prison population that has HIV and hepatitis C. But I'm glad y'all are positive you won't ever mess up in your lifetimes.

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Usually aids patients get segregated at limestone, they had to build another fence cause some sissy's were backing up to the one gate,lol.

Some people are just dumb, saying someone deserves to get raped for commuting a crime, is like saying folks who speed deserves to wreck and die.


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Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
Usually aids patients get segregated at limestone, they had to build another fence cause some sissy's were backing up to the one gate,lol.

Some people are just dumb, saying someone deserves to get raped for commuting a crime, is like saying folks who speed deserves to wreck and die.


Segregating HIV patients has been ruled unconstitutional, and Alabama was the last state doing it. It's almost like they want you to get HIV.

And yes, the drunk driving analogy is a great one.

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Usually aids patients get segregated at limestone, they had to build another fence cause some sissy's were backing up to the one gate,lol.

Some people are just dumb, saying someone deserves to get raped for commuting a crime, is like saying folks who speed deserves to wreck and die.


Segregating HIV patients has been ruled unconstitutional, and Alabama was the last state doing it. It's almost like they want you to get HIV.

And yes, the drunk driving analogy is a great one.




I'm much more worried about choking to death on my dinner tonight. The chance of a generally law abiding citizen being wrongly or correctly charged with a felony, being sent to prison, being unable to dissuade potential rapisys, those rapists possibly having hiv, contracting said disease, and dying down the road, is minor in my mind, to all of the other problems we have with the prison systems and punishments for offenders.

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Our government offers free stays in the United States holiday inn express and a slap on the wrist to sex offenders, killers, and repeat screw ups. Let's start by figuring out how to make it unpleasant enough for no one to want back in there. Let's literally create hell, through hard work bare bones conditions, etc. then once those problems are addressed, I'd bet your rape problems decrease as well.

I simply have little sympathy for someone who has made those kind of life choices. We can play the "what if" game forever, but the goal of any system is to address the majority, not the what ifs.

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Come on deer season...aldeer caught the ghey..way to many "If I was"...etc...some of you boys would have plenty of smokes and ramen noodles in prison

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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Our government offers free stays in the United States holiday inn express and a slap on the wrist to sex offenders, killers, and repeat screw ups. Let's start by figuring out how to make it unpleasant enough for no one to want back in there. Let's literally create hell, through hard work bare bones conditions, etc. then once those problems are addressed, I'd bet your rape problems decrease as well.

I simply have little sympathy for someone who has made those kind of life choices. We can play the "what if" game forever, but the goal of any system is to address the majority, not the what ifs.


I'm with ya bud. It should be a rougher life in prison, but those two issues are unrelated.

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