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Re: Conservation ID # [Re: NightHunter] #1826730
08/27/16 04:03 AM
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So I need to get a hunting license and then I need to register for this Conversation ID?

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: NightHunter] #1826740
08/27/16 04:17 AM
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If I were owner of the site making nothing or virtually nothing, and had to watch people complain about decisions I made consistently, I'd probably just shut it down and enjoy my extra free time. It is becoming a common theme around here. Just use the site for what it is and enjoy the like minded people... And ignore the others.

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: akbejeepin] #1826748
08/27/16 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: akbejeepin
If I were owner of the site making nothing or virtually nothing, and had to watch people complain about decisions I made consistently, I'd probably just shut it down and enjoy my extra free time. It is becoming a common theme around here. Just use the site for what it is and enjoy the like minded people... And ignore the others.





tell you this , running a talk board is a full time bitch of a job .

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: Atoler] #1826771
08/27/16 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Man oh man, if I was Matt, Jeremy, or Jon, I'd never answer another question regarding any thing with the dcnr or regulations.

Who cares if it will hold up in court? Do the vast majority of us not have a better understanding of the laws because of their posts? Sure, somebody might be confused and get a ticket. Tuff titty.... Imagine how many of us would have misunderstandings if Google and the rule book were our only resources.

Skinny, have you ever called a game warden to ask a legal question? How well do you think a non recorded phone call will hold up in court if you misunderstood? Specifically If it's a different game warden........

This whole thing is dumb

This^^
Can't blame the DCNR guys for leaving Aldeer the way they get treated around here.

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: NightHunter] #1826894
08/27/16 07:13 AM
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Money talks and the bullsheit walks. Writing is on the walls. Haven't y'all learned this before.

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: NightHunter] #1826901
08/27/16 07:25 AM
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Yep.....definitely all about the money....we wouldn't be having this conversation if certain palms were being greased. wink

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: bward85] #1827065
08/27/16 10:47 AM
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Quote:
we wouldn't be having this conversation if certain palms were being greased


Care to elaborate? Big accusation.


"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter

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Re: Conservation ID # [Re: bward85] #1827090
08/27/16 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: bward85
Yep.....definitely all about the money....we wouldn't be having this conversation if certain palms were being greased. wink


Just how much grease would you think would be applied in this case. This is a website frequented by a few hundred good ole boys. This isn't ESPN. I have never had a need to check advertising prices for this site but I would assume that Skinny ain't getting rich here from selling ads across the top of the page. I don't see money as being the main reason this site is here. However, some of it is necessary for it to exist.

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: Skinny] #1827103
08/27/16 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
Originally Posted By: Skinny
Dangit...another annoying thing to fool with.


pretty much what I was thinking.....


I wasnt even talking about the silly fact that they want us to go online to get another number to go with the number we purchased.

I was talking about the fact that I do not think it is right to allow the DCNR to continue to advertise their products on here for free and that I am going to have to do something about it. They typically pay magazines and other media outlets to dictate to, err.. "inform", the public what we are supposed to be doing and we are letting them do it here for free. That is going to change.

Here ya go.....now tell me it ain't about the money!

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: bward85] #1827113
08/27/16 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By: bward85
Originally Posted By: Skinny
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
Originally Posted By: Skinny
Dangit...another annoying thing to fool with.


pretty much what I was thinking.....


I wasnt even talking about the silly fact that they want us to go online to get another number to go with the number we purchased.

I was talking about the fact that I do not think it is right to allow the DCNR to continue to advertise their products on here for free and that I am going to have to do something about it. They typically pay magazines and other media outlets to dictate to, err.. "inform", the public what we are supposed to be doing and we are letting them do it here for free. That is going to change.

Here ya go.....now tell me it ain't about the money!


imo , it could be read a lot of ways to mean a lot of things .

since i did not write i couldn't say really what it means .

in a later post he stats it really not about the money

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: Skinny] #1827116
08/27/16 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
Its not about asking for money or getting them to pay up.

It is about them being official or not being official. Matt Brock and Nighthunter and the others are nice guys. But them posting as "official" DCNR reps during their off-hours does not mean anything more than me telling you the price of a bushel corn (which I know nothing about), but I can sound "official" about it.

The DCNR has had for many years made it a very official policy of not being an active participating member of Aldeer, and the reason being is that they are scared of talking and dealing with the regular public face-to-face directly.

But doing it indirectly, through Matt and Nighthunter, seems good-enough for the guys in Montgomery. When it comes time to give you a ticket because you misunderstood something you read on Aldeer from an "un-official-but-protrayed-as-official" source ends up biting you in the field and the courtroom do not complain to me.

So if the DCNR wants to use Aldeer as a place to communicate hunting regulations, which seem to change at a moments notice these days, then they need to man-up and do it officially. Otherwise, they need to go away and let us continue to bitch about what a horrible job they are doing.


I don't know, the two posts seem to contradict each other, But either way, I can't see much greasing going on anywhere here.

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: bward85] #1827120
08/27/16 11:43 AM
08/27/16 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: bward85
Originally Posted By: Skinny
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
Originally Posted By: Skinny
Dangit...another annoying thing to fool with.


pretty much what I was thinking.....


I wasnt even talking about the silly fact that they want us to go online to get another number to go with the number we purchased.

I was talking about the fact that I do not think it is right to allow the DCNR to continue to advertise their products on here for free and that I am going to have to do something about it. They typically pay magazines and other media outlets to dictate to, err.. "inform", the public what we are supposed to be doing and we are letting them do it here for free. That is going to change.

Here ya go.....now tell me it ain't about the money!


Pretty cut and dry there...What else does he need to do besides send out a damn invoice.

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: NightHunter] #1827123
08/27/16 11:47 AM
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I agree Frankie...that post could be taken many ways and I think a lot of people on here took it the same way I did....that certain information was not going to be allowed here for free....then the later post was ment as cover for the "Money"post.

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: BhamFred] #1827124
08/27/16 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
jeeeze louise

Montgomery does NOT tell any employees to get on here on their own time and answer questions, matter of fact they would prefer they NOT get on here.

and not one damn thing any of them has said on here will stand up in court if you get arrested. NOT ONE THING.



i pretty sure they could find some one to do a Q&A on here .

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: Clem] #1827134
08/27/16 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: Clem
Quote:
we wouldn't be having this conversation if certain palms were being greased


Care to elaborate? Big accusation.

Didn't make an accusation....just stated fact. wink

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: NightHunter] #1827151
08/27/16 12:14 PM
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Good grief
Mbrock and Night hunter don't make the rules. They are just giving us some tips and tricks. Skinny I can see your point but don't take it out on these guys I'm sure if they could they would love to post on an official thread but that decision is prolly above them.


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Re: Conservation ID # [Re: NightHunter] #1827153
08/27/16 12:16 PM
08/27/16 12:16 PM
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Its all about money. The DCNR implements all this wordy bullschit into a simple activity to collect revenue and disguise it as research. If you wanna tell me its not about revenue, screw off. Its another ticket to write.

Look up the studies they do on the rivers. Most are 9-10 pages of third grade reading material. Meanwhile, municipalities dump sewage, businesses dump hundreds of gallons of sulfuric acid into the black warrior river, and there's no quote from them on that. They want to talk about the new dumbass monitoring program they're rolling out. On average hunters.

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: whack-n-stack] #1827165
08/27/16 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: whack-n-stack
Its all about money. The DCNR implements all this wordy bullschit into a simple activity to collect revenue and disguise it as research. If you wanna tell me its not about revenue, screw off. Its another ticket to write.

Look up the studies they do on the rivers. Most are 9-10 pages of third grade reading material. Meanwhile, municipalities dump sewage, businesses dump hundreds of gallons of sulfuric acid into the black warrior river, and there's no quote from them on that. They want to talk about the new dumbass monitoring program they're rolling out. On average hunters.


Well I can't comment on all that...but I do appreciate the knowledge and information that the DCNR guys posted on here...I learned a lot from those posts. Guess that's a thing of the past now Thanks to the" powers that be" on this site.

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: NightHunter] #1827173
08/27/16 12:45 PM
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My point is, theres more important issues to conservation that they could be bringing up instead of labeling hunters as a number. I dont have any business interest in this site.

Im more or less expressing my frustration with the incompetence of the DCNR.

Re: Conservation ID # [Re: NightHunter] #1827244
08/27/16 02:22 PM
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Y'all are right, it is about the money. Unfortunately not like many are thinking though.

Game check is an ugly seed that has been planted. It is sprouting and will in the not to distant future begin to branch out. And a day will come when it bears its fruit.

It's sad folks think it is solely for herd mangement and conservation.

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