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Bluebacks
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08/16/16 09:21 AM
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Saw 6 dead stripers floating today along with 4 dam POS bluebacks on Martin.. When are dh's going to learn that DIY biology by some nad can really screw up a lake's ecosystem. Yeah, I'm very familiar with Lake Lanier. What's next, snakeheads? Really wish that somebody that knows something and who did it, would come forward and point fingers. Reminds me of the idiot on here, asking about transporting hogs to another property. F'ing rant ain't over on this.
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Re: Bluebacks
[Re: Gotcha1]
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08/16/16 09:33 AM
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Ok...school me. I get the whole invasive/introduced species upsetting the ecosystem thing, but what's the correlation between the bluebacks and dead stripers?
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Re: Bluebacks
[Re: Gotcha1]
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08/16/16 09:49 AM
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Schooling aint going to be extensive. As for me, I have little concern for the stripers. They have no correllation with the blue backs, except that the fish are dealing with a lack of dissolved oxygen in the water. Mostly all fish are affected. As long as the striper population is controllable, no big deal, The bluebacks will multiply like crazy and affect the fry of our desired fish. ie bream, bass, crappie.
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Re: Bluebacks
[Re: Gotcha1]
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08/16/16 10:13 AM
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Bucket biologists put bluebacks in Smith Lake up here at Cullman about 10 or so years ago, too.
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Re: Bluebacks
[Re: Gotcha1]
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08/17/16 07:37 AM
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Violating state laws about transporting and introducing species is worth a "quality" limit or winning a little bass tournament? Hopefully an unknown disease won't join all the septic runoff in Smith and harm the fish, or the herring won't get into the Sipsey and move downstream.
If someone transported a dozen wolves from Canada and turned them loose because they were cool, everyone would have a freaking come-apart. Because it's a fish no one sees and, gosh the fishing's better!, then no one gives two rips about it.
At some point the piper will present his bill.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Bluebacks
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08/17/16 07:40 AM
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I hope you live close to Smith. Talked with my son yesterday and there are strong indications of detrimental effects caused by bluebacks. And I nor many others couldn't care less what you or any other bassbuster has in his sack when it is compared to the health of a lake.. Really pretty childish when you consider that folks actually do this with invasive species and the thought process is people's tournament ego.
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Re: Bluebacks
[Re: Clem]
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08/17/16 07:42 AM
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Violating state laws about transporting and introducing species is worth a "quality" limit or winning a little bass tournament? Hopefully an unknown disease won't join all the septic runoff in Smith and harm the fish, or the herring won't get into the Sipsey and move downstream.
If someone transported a dozen wolves from Canada and turned them loose because they were cool, everyone would have a freaking come-apart. Because it's a fish no one sees and, gosh the fishing's better!, then no one gives two rips about it.
At some point the piper will present his bill.
They already downstream
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Re: Bluebacks
[Re: Gotcha1]
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08/17/16 08:41 AM
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Because the spots are bigger, fishing is better?
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Re: Bluebacks
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08/17/16 09:54 AM
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To only talk about one species, doesn't address the quality of fishing. We've beat this to death. I give!
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Re: Bluebacks
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08/18/16 03:19 AM
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At smith the spots are bigger but numbers are down to me. I just don't catch as many bass as years past and blue backs have already been spotted in warrior river below smith I think you 2 are completely missing the point. There's always...never mind.
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Re: Bluebacks
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08/18/16 05:42 AM
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Privet hedge is wonderful, mimosa trees are awesome, princess trees are beautiful, feral hogs are fun to hunt, Asian carp are fun to bowfish for, fire ants keep the neighbor hood kids out of the yard...... Yes I do believe I I have changed my mind all non-native species are great!!....As long as they have ONE benefit I'll over look any possible negative affects. SMH
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Re: Bluebacks
[Re: Gotcha1]
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08/18/16 06:47 AM
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A type of herring that are not native to Alabama waters. Some predator fish including bass eat them and may thrive on them. But they can/may be disruptive to a lake or waterway's ecosystem. Also since they're not found here, importing them is illegal.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Bluebacks
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08/18/16 06:50 AM
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I understabd your point clearly; there could be long term problems that effect some, or all, species of fish in the fishery that the bluebacks were released into. I get that, and I agree that no individual should take it upon themself to introduce a new species into an environment. With that said though, my point is it has already been done, the state officials have said it would be impossible to remove them from Smith due to the depth and size of the lake, and they simply are there to stay for better or worse. Currently it appears to be better, and I hope it does not have negative long term effects, but it may. I didn't put the bluebacks in the lake, and the indiviuals that did have been caught. There is simply nothing else for me to do but fish the lake, enjoy it, and pray that the fishing remains positive. I primarily fish for bass and crappie in Smith; and thus far have not seen any negative side effects. I went yesterday evening with my brother for 2 hours and caught between 15-20 spots and an 8lb catfish on a Crankbait. Once I do start seeing negative side effects, I will gladly let you know. If you don't want the bluebacks in your primary lake I suggest you start talking to people at the launch and your local game warden. If people are Stocking them, they need to be caught and punished just like the 2 guides on Smith.
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