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After buying the Ascent Verdict single pin, 4 other guys I shoot with have made the switch as well. This was one of my better 2016 purchases. Seeing better accuracy at distance from everyone has been cool to watch in person.

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I didn't care for my black gold single pin. Not nearly as well thought out as the hha for adjustment while hunting. Worked fine other than that.

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Glad you like it kodiak06. That's why they make so many different things for hunters. What is appealing to one may not be appealing to the other. I loved my black gold three pin. But did not like theit one pin as much as others.

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Originally Posted By: Atoler
I didn't care for my black gold single pin. Not nearly as well thought out as the hha for adjustment while hunting. Worked fine other than that.


For me just the opposite. I like my quiver mounted close to the bow and with the HHA you have to add the bracket for clearance which extends the quiver away from the bow. I also wasn't spending money on limb mounted quiver this year. The adjustments are really easy and with the sight tape angled, really easy to see. Were you in a tree hunting with quiver off or hunting with quiver attached?

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Went to the range with a buddy for a couple hours today and we were shooting our 'lil spot at 60... I nailed it and the ding dong robin hooded my arrow, frown

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Tree, but a G5 quiver mounts on the bow without the eztensions, which is what I used. Like said above, just personal preference,

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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Tree, but a G5 quiver mounts on the bow without the eztensions, which is what I used. Like said above, just personal preference,


My Kwikee Kwiver mounts without the extension, also.


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Originally Posted By: Clark8907
Glad you like it kodiak06. That's why they make so many different things for hunters. What is appealing to one may not be appealing to the other. I loved my black gold three pin. But did not like theit one pin as much as others.


Definitely makes shooting a little more interesting. One of the guys actually has a 5 pin adj. Kinda defeats the purpose for me but, he's digging it.

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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Tree, but a G5 quiver mounts on the bow without the eztensions, which is what I used. Like said above, just personal preference,

Nice

Re: Since the black gold switch [Re: N2TRKYS] #1802547
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: Atoler
Tree, but a G5 quiver mounts on the bow without the eztensions, which is what I used. Like said above, just personal preference,


My Kwikee Kwiver mounts without the extension, also.


I used to live down the street from the Kwikee Kwiver guys in Michigan. I would go buy the mounts for cheap and put them on straps to put around the tree. That was the early 90's. Too bad I didn't put in some time and money and patent something back then.

Re: Since the black gold switch [Re: kodiak06] #1802592
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I've been shooting black gold pure driven 75 for last couple of years and absolutely love it

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I'd be interested in trying this sight, but I set my sight pin housing up so that it sits/lines up perfectly with my peep. How does this sight work out with your peep?


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I centered mine with it set to 30yds. Sight picture changes with yardage increases but, just keep the same anchor point. Later today just because, I'm gonna center at 50yds and play a bit. Probably end up centered at 30 though. Right now, I'm leaving the sight set at 30 and practicing 0 to 40 just in case I don't have time to range an animal. The guys with more single pin time may post some better info/how to's for ya.

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Yesterday I stepped outta my truck at the range, ranged this pink dot and chunked one at 62yds. I'm a bow hunter not a tourney shooter and couldn't be happier.

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The biggest things I've noticed from all of us that switched is more confidence and tighter groups. By switched, I'm referring to going from multiple fixed pins to a single adjustable. I say, look at the type of hunting you do and your environment and make your decision on which sight meets your needs.

Re: Since the black gold switch [Re: kodiak06] #1803383
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How did you see that pink dot? I know my eyes are bad, but dang.
Good shooting! I switched from a 5 pin to a single pin HHA and love it.

Re: Since the black gold switch [Re: kodiak06] #1803401
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I've got a HHA single pin sight right now, but I think I like a 3 pin fixed sight better.


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Originally Posted By: CPalmer72
How did you see that pink dot? I know my eyes are bad, but dang.
Good shooting! I switched from a 5 pin to a single pin HHA and love it.


It actually stands out pretty good at distance. We have a yellow one on another one that stands out even better.

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Went to the range again but, looked the sight over and decided that I wasn't gonna try to center to 50... I need to put a kisser on the new string I believe. Out to 65 accurate, from 70 to 88, off and on the spot.

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Why do y'all worry about the sight housing lining up with the peep?


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Which HHA do you have N2TRKYS?


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Originally Posted By: Smoke_Diver
Which HHA do you have N2TRKYS?


I had the Kingpin, but didn't like it at all. I traded it for the Optimizer Ultra 5519. If you're thinking about getting one, give me a call.


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I shoot the Optimizer Lite 5510. I don't know if they make the .10 pin any more.. I don't see it on their website now.

I really like the single pin because of less clutter, being able to dial in to exact yardage when needed, etc.

I don't like having to set up the tapes personally. I was actually talking to Shaw about this over the weekend. I can get a tape to line up perfect from 20-40, 50 is okay, but 60-80 gets pretty far off. I'm assuming its because its a short draw and falling off more than others, but I don't know. I never shoot past 40 in the woods, so just a little OCD i guess.

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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Why do y'all worry about the sight housing lining up with the peep?


If that's for me as far as centering the housing, I want to see more of the pin while shooting at 100yds. I'm pretty good now, 20 is toward the top of the peep and I had plenty of pin to see at 88 earlier today. With my fixed sight, the housing was centered with the peep and it was like another way of ensuring my anchor was the same, especially at step up and down hill shots up here.

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Originally Posted By: CPalmer72
I shoot the Optimizer Lite 5510. I don't know if they make the .10 pin any more.. I don't see it on their website now.

I really like the single pin because of less clutter, being able to dial in to exact yardage when needed, etc.

I don't like having to set up the tapes personally. I was actually talking to Shaw about this over the weekend. I can get a tape to line up perfect from 20-40, 50 is okay, but 60-80 gets pretty far off. I'm assuming its because its a short draw and falling off more than others, but I don't know. I never shoot past 40 in the woods, so just a little OCD i guess.


Kinda the same here, I'll drill an elk at 60 for sure but, if he runs off and I can get him to stop again at say 80 with a cow call, I'd like to punch another hole in him if possible.

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Originally Posted By: kodiak06
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Why do y'all worry about the sight housing lining up with the peep?


If that's for me as far as centering the housing, I want to see more of the pin while shooting at 100yds. I'm pretty good now, 20 is toward the top of the peep and I had plenty of pin to see at 88 earlier today. With my fixed sight, the housing was centered with the peep and it was like another way of ensuring my anchor was the same, especially at step up and down hill shots up here.


I always see folks talking about doing that. Seems so foreign to me. I don't look at my housing, I just center the pin that I want to use in the peep. So, you don't center your pins in the peep?


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I always center the housing. By doing so, the pin is centered by default on a single pin sight. wink I center the housing on a multi-pin sight as well.


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Why do y'all worry about the sight housing lining up with the peep?


If that's for me as far as centering the housing, I want to see more of the pin while shooting at 100yds. I'm pretty good now, 20 is toward the top of the peep and I had plenty of pin to see at 88 earlier today. With my fixed sight, the housing was centered with the peep and it was like another way of ensuring my anchor was the same, especially at step up and down hill shots up here.


I always see folks talking about doing that. Seems so foreign to me. I don't look at my housing, I just center the pin that I want to use in the peep. So, you don't center your pins in the peep?


On my fixed pin the housing was centered and I shot the pin I wanted. If I was centering the pin I would have had to change anchor or move my head...

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Originally Posted By: Shaw
I always center the housing. By doing so, the pin is centered by default on a single pin sight. wink I center the housing on a multi-pin sight as well.


Hey Shaw, with the adjustable sight, is your housing always centered and you change anchor point or are you keeping the same anchor point and shooting wherever the pin is thru the peep at the different yardages?

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Hopefully that makes sense^^^

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My housing is always centered. Out past 50 yards my anchor changes slightly.


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I used a Black Gold single pin two years ago. Very nice and well built. I decided to go back to a multipin last year and got a Spott Hog and a Black Gold. Both were very nice but I like the MBG better and sold the Spott Hog.



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Went to range and shot centering the sight housing instead of shooting the pin. Doing that I ended up with dial set to 62 while shooting at 60. Grabbed a different sight tape when I got home and gonna try it tomorrow. Should be money, hope so anyway

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I lied, I ended up back at the range last night with the other sight tape temp installed. Centering the sight housing, I was good to 80yds. Didn't try past that due to being tired plus, I think 80s enough. This forum comes in handy...

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