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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1799261
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Ok i've got all the pics I need of my fav property . Same deer that were there last season including the big 8 ( if someone could text me I'd like to have him aged ) on here . Anyways would now be a good time to take the cameras off the mineral site and corn and put it looking in a different directions to see where he's coming from ? 256-609-3962

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Originally Posted By: Lionsden
Ok i've got all the pics I need of my fav property . Same deer that were there last season including the big 8 ( if someone could text me I'd like to have him aged ) on here . Anyways would now be a good time to take the cameras off the mineral site and corn and put it looking in a different directions to see where he's coming from ? 256-609-3962


I'd leave them on mineral sites another 6-8 weeks.



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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1799729
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Can someone text me 256-609-3962 and post the pics of him

Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: wew3006] #1799818
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Originally Posted By: wew3006
I run cameras over rice bran and trophy rock August till bow season and by then have most, not all, of good bucks targeted. During season I will take camera in to a stand and pick it up next time I hunt there, no bait. Last 3 good bucks I killed I had on camera. Were top of my hit list and knew them when they showed up. Adds a lot to the experience, for me.


x2 The July and August pics give some idea of what we got to hunt the upcoming season... All I'm looking for towards the rut is day time movement.


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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Snowman257wby] #1799834
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Originally Posted By: Snowman257wby
Salt licks before season (checked very little, a month +) just to see whats around. And you will see alot bucks when established.
During season very easily accessible places (maybe checked more frequently) or like someone else said where u will be hunting ( checked much less).


Good stuff right here. This time of year, I'm interested in inventory - check cameras every couple of weeks depending on food running out. Generally, I use corn and a trophy rock and leave it for 2-3 weeks (or until the doe groups make it "their's). During the season, I continue to use cameras, but put them on trails or creek crossings. As others have said, I'll check them when hunting nearby - rarely go in to check them.

Here's the most important thing though... do what you can to minimize your presence. I typically put my cams over head high - I believe it makes a difference. Since I started it, I've not had one buck startle and spook. Also, I rarely put cams in remote areas. IMO, the further you walk/ride ATV, the more you disturb the area. My hunting lands usually have well roads on them... people would be shocked how close to roads/wells I have sets. Our deer are accustomed to regular traffic on these roads and trucks stopping near the wells. I figure that's far less impact than riding/walking half a mile into remote areas to put a set.

Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: ridgestalker] #1799839
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Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
Originally Posted By: wew3006
I run cameras over rice bran and trophy rock August till bow season and by then have most, not all, of good bucks targeted. During season I will take camera in to a stand and pick it up next time I hunt there, no bait. Last 3 good bucks I killed I had on camera. Were top of my hit list and knew them when they showed up. Adds a lot to the experience, for me.


x2 The July and August pics give some idea of what we got to hunt the upcoming season... All I'm looking for towards the rut is day time movement.


Yep and yep. Inventory now till bow season , daytime movement in and around show time.



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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: 2Dogs] #1800738
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: truedouble
I've been running cameras for around 15 years. Went from just getting excited to see a buck on camera to realizing the potential our property. Over the past 10 years it's been more about seeing what up and comers look like and then getting a good idea of the number of shooters we have spending time on our land. This is good to know if you have friends hunting with you as it minimizes mistakes on shooting bucks that we don't want to shoot yet.

All that being said, over the past 3-4 years it's become clear that putting any kind of pressure on a mature buck can make that buck nearly impossible to kill. I think a lot of hunters underestimate how weary mature bucks can be. So, last summer I put out a camera and never checked it until bow season. After that I didn't check it until the rut. A buddy of mine hunted the field for the first time around late December and had 3 really good hunts. Saw a shooter, next day missed a shooter, next morning saw another shooter. I don't think it was coincidence that the year before I was checking the cam on that same field every 2-3 weeks and had minimal mature buck sightings.

From now on, I'll use them in a similar way that 2 dogs does, except I'll also start running them around late August, but will not check until bow season. "IF" you are going to pattern a mature buck on our place it's going to be during the first 2-3 hunts of bow season.

As others have said, it really does depend on each individual buck's personality. Every now and then we get a mature buck that just doesn't seem to be as concerned with dying as his cohorts and for those bucks you really can check the cam every week or so without an issue, but I believe those type bucks are very few and far between.


thumbup Spot on, if you want to kill 4+ YO bucks you have to turn it up a notch. They are like grumpy old men, they don't like to be bothered . Over hunting a stand , not hunting a stand smart, ripping and roaring on a atv/utv and checking cameras every few days will piss a grumpy old buck off.


If I were ever to use them I'd do it the way you guys do. I know a bunch of guys who are great at getting pictures of good bucks and they spend a lot of time doing it. I don't know a single one of those guys that kills those deer they have all the pics of other than the occasional exception.

I was in a club last year and it didn't take me long to figure out that there was a lot more camera hunters than deer hunters. One decent buck killed on 2000 acres and hunters averaged less than 1 deer seen per 3 hunts. Plenty of night time pictures, though. There wasn't ever very many people hunting but they were filling feeders and checking cameras several times a week. It made me remember why I hate clubs.


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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1800766
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Yes, yes and yes

But we are on the property multiple days a week, twelve months a year. Deer are used to us on the entire 1000 acres.

Most of the bucks we kill over 3.5 are killed within rock throwing distance of a camera that was most likely checked in the last 48 hours.

But again, we are there all the time. That has to make a difference.

I figure out where he's bedding in January and February after deer season because most mature deer you know for a couple of years.

I can get him down to 20 acres with 4 cameras on my place and chances are that's where he dies. Just pay careful attention to times on your pictures. It really isn't hard to be honest.

But again, being there constantly is the key.






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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1800775
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This thread proves what I've been thinking for years, a lot of people use cameras for taking pics of deer for inventory purposes, but there's very few that are actually using them to help kill deer.


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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: N2TRKYS] #1800819
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
This thread proves what I've been thinking for years, a lot of people use cameras for taking pics of deer for inventory purposes, but there's very few that are actually using them to help kill deer.


I don't know a single hunter who is a camera freak that consistently kills mature bucks. I know some guys, like 2dogs, that use them some and are careful not to check them too often, that have success using them.

I also know several guys that have shown me dozens of pics of big deer that they have on camera all year long. I don't think any of those guys have shown me a pic of a dead deer that a camera helped them kill. Nothing wrong with it because they seem to really enjoy getting all those pics.


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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: bill] #1800902
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Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
This thread proves what I've been thinking for years, a lot of people use cameras for taking pics of deer for inventory purposes, but there's very few that are actually using them to help kill deer.


I don't know a single hunter who is a camera freak that consistently kills mature bucks. I also know several guys that have shown me dozens of pics of big deer that they have on camera all year long. I don't think any of those guys have shown me a pic of a dead deer that a camera helped them kill. Nothing wrong with it because they seem to really enjoy getting all those pics.



Sounds like you've been talking to the wrong guys.


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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: N2TRKYS] #1800940
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Maybe so. There may be some that stay in the woods all year long checking cameras and consistently kill mature deer. I just don't know of any.


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Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: bill] #1801651
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Originally Posted By: bill
Maybe so. There may be some that stay in the woods all year long checking cameras and consistently kill mature deer. I just don't know of any.


I killed three bucks last year in part due to the "in season info" I got from my cams. I knew the bucks were frequenting the areas more during those times and spent more time in the areas as a result. Not saying it'll happen every year, but when a camera shows a buck being in an area for 3-6 days in the last week, you know he's there.

Re: Successful camera strategy [Re: Yelp softly] #1801871
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I usually kill mutiple mature bucks I have on camera every year. I killed a really old 10 point last year my buddy had been trying to kill for 3 years. I used the info he had learned and my recent pics of him and killed him first year I got to hunt the property.

Here are a few tips I've learned. Use a blackout camera, hang the camera high to get it out of the Bucks field of view, run cameras on mineral licks early season for inventory, as soon as bucks start laying down scrapes I open a big mock scrape by my stand and pee in it. I hang the camea high and out of sight over looking this scrape. If there is a mature buck using the area he's going to check that scrape often if not tipped off by human scent and presence. I only check cameras when hunting that particular area or I'll check them when it's raining. These tips work for me and I usually have an opportunity at a few hit list bucks every year. The #1 thing I get out of running cameras is confidence I'm in the area a hit list buck is known to use. This gives me the motivation to hunt hard and be smart about how I hunt the area.


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Originally Posted By: Squeaky
I usually kill mutiple mature bucks I have on camera every year. I killed a really old 10 point last year my buddy had been trying to kill for 3 years. I used the info he had learned and my recent pics of him and killed him first year I got to hunt the property.

Here are a few tips I've learned. Use a blackout camera, hang the camera high to get it out of the Bucks field of view, run cameras on mineral licks early season for inventory, as soon as bucks start laying down scrapes I open a big mock scrape by my stand and pee in it. I hang the camea high and out of sight over looking this scrape. If there is a mature buck using the area he's going to check that scrape often if not tipped off by human scent and presence. I only check cameras when hunting that particular area or I'll check them when it's raining. These tips work for me and I usually have an opportunity at a few hit list bucks every year. The #1 thing I get out of running cameras is confidence I'm in the area a hit list buck is known to use. This gives me the motivation to hunt hard and be smart about how I hunt the area.


Excellent post Mike... second the idea of rain and mock scrapes specifically. When I find the first scrapes, I usually will hang a dripper (Code Blue) over the scrape with buck urine in it. It's been my experience that doing such will get every buck in the area to check the scrape - I believe their curiosity makes them check out the new guy. I've found it can't be a secondary scrape... but rather a community scrape.

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