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Re: Super beehive [Re: FurFlyin] #1746981
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Neighbor had o ne split up the road. Saw the swarm in the tree. Walked inside to get his suit and came back out. They were gone. Weve looked to no avail.


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Re: Super beehive [Re: countryjwh] #1747022
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Originally Posted By: countryjwh
Sure looks like they building a queen cell


It's common to have queen cups in the hives all the time. I probably have them in all my hives. It only becomes a queen cell when it has a larvae in it. I use to tear them down every time I saw them, but they just build them back.


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No larvae so we are good then.


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Re: Super beehive [Re: FurFlyin] #1749047
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Got 7.5 frames with wax on them and most have eggs at least. I guess its time for a super?

You can tell the number of bees are growing. Probably tripled from when we started. Any thoughts or concerns.

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Re: Super beehive [Re: FurFlyin] #1749182
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Looks pretty good to me. The bright white caps are honey and the tan is brood. I would put another super on and let them put up as much honey as possible for the winter. Looks like the swarm recovery work is going to be worth it. See what Fur says, but I think you add the super and let them work.


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Re: Super beehive [Re: Wade] #1749212
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Originally Posted By: Wade
Looks pretty good to me. The bright white caps are honey and the tan is brood. I would put another super on and let them put up as much honey as possible for the winter. Looks like the swarm recovery work is going to be worth it.


Solid advice.

I don't know how far south you are but if the Chinese Tallow trees aren't bloomed out try to find a bunch and move the hive to them. They produce a lot of nectar and you can get a super or two of comb drawn out.

That first frame pictured, where the bees drew the comb "wonky" needs fixing or culling, but I wouldn't do that until next year.

Comb like that is hard to manage. It's a good place for swarm cells and queens to hide. It took me several years to learn this but I don't let not perfect comb stay in the hive very long. It causes problems.

Also, those look like straight bred Italian bees although there's no good way to know for sure. Watch the amount of honey in the hive closely this summer and fall. They'll raise brood until the have nothing left in the hive to eat. You'll want to give them 1:1 sugar water when there is no natural nectar coming in.


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Re: Super beehive [Re: FurFlyin] #1749218
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There are multiple trees within 100 yards of the box right now. We were actually discussing them yesterday cause there were no bees on them but they are just starting to bloom.


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Re: Super beehive [Re: FurFlyin] #1749290
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Too close isn't always good. Bees don't forage heavily within so many feet of their hives. I don't remember the distance but I'm sure you can Google it. Now early in the season when there isn't much blooming they wrap up any Holly bush in my mothers yard. Those are all 100 or more yards from the hives. The same may be the case with your Tallow trees. There may not be much else blooming.

They will occasionally forage pretty close but IIRC it's something about their "waggle dance" that doesn't work close up.

I am now back up to 16 hives, counting nucs that I have, and I have seen about 5 bees on plants around the house all day.

There's way over 500,000 bees within 1/4 mile of my house and I rarely see one unless I'm standing at the hives. Now a "neighbor" about 3/4 mile from here has them in her yard all the time.

I am definitely not an expert on Tallow flow since we don't have any/many here, but I have read a good bit about it. Supposedly it's a very heavy flow and hives can run out of room quickly. If you don't have a super on your hive yet, I'd get one on there and check it every 5-6 days and see if they need another.


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Re: Super beehive [Re: FurFlyin] #1749319
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Theve quit eating from the jar. I know that. There is a clover field half a mile behind them i am assuming they going to.


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Re: Super beehive [Re: FurFlyin] #1749322
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Them not taking sugar water is a sure sign you're on a good flow. If you're on a flow, they should be making wax. Take full advantage of the wax making time.


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Re: Super beehive [Re: FurFlyin] #1749325
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It is strange about the way they feed. We have a number of flowers around the house and we don't see many honey bees either. The pollinators have about 350 hives about 400 yards away from the house.

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Yeah, there's a whole lot I haven't figured out yet about bees and the feeding part is one of them.

I have figured out that time of day has a good deal to do with when certain plant species have nectar. Also, rain has a great deal to do with it too.

Not all flowers are honeybee plants either.


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Re: Super beehive [Re: FurFlyin] #1762596
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fur. we put a super a while back when we were posting in the thread. looked at it today and they have half the frames with comb and honey. pretty remarkable from what i can tell. started feeding again a few days ago and they drinking it up. half a quart a day or round about. i.actually think i may need to add another super in the fall if not before then.


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How far will honeybees travel to gather nectar?

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ive read 3 to 5 miles


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Re: Super beehive [Re: FurFlyin] #1765839
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If they are drawing comb on feed that's great. If they stop drawing comb and keep taking feed, make sure they aren't filling the brood nest with nectar. I hope you do need another super before fall and that you can keep them drawing comb. You'll definitely need the comb next year.

I've read a 3 mile feeding radius is normal, however our shop is right at 2 miles, as the bee flies, from our farm and I rarely if ever see a honeybee there feeding on the clover. I figure they fly as far as they have to, to get nectar and pollen.


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Re: Super beehive [Re: FurFlyin] #1774645
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fur. we been feeding and the last few days have been crazy the amount of feed we going through. usually there is 30 bees around it but the past few days its like this. assumming nectar flow over? do yalls surround it like this usually.


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Re: Super beehive [Re: FurFlyin] #1774828
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I don't feed that way. That looks to me like it might set off a robbing frenzy.

I use frame feeders, which are okay, but you have to take the top off the hive to fill them.

I am thinking seriously about making a couple of feeders out of 5 gallon buckets, like you have with the quart jar and sitting them out.


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Re: Super beehive [Re: FurFlyin] #1775534
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I bit the bullet and bought a couple of top feeders from Mann Lake. I have one on the new split and put one on my weakest hive at the farm. I finally got around to putting 3 gallons in it today. The bees cannot get to you thru the screen. The convenience factor is definitely something to consider. All I'd do is pick up the top and fill them.I will let y'all know how they work in a couple of weeks. I can report the new split has lot of bees in the top getting syrup.


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Wade I wish I had just started with top feeders and been done with it. I hate feeding bees but sometimes it's just got to be done.

I may get motivated today and make a 5 gallon bucket feeder.


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