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Scotch WMA closing down #1746285
05/25/16 01:37 PM
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746288
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Wouldn't doubt it..The government is screwing the landowners! Hell I'd pull my property to


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Everyone. All of them...

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Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746290
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Man that's turrible. I didn't hunt there but hate to see any land withdrawn from the WMA system.


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Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746310
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Reasons are understandable. It sucks.

But just another move toward the direction of working the working class out of hunting completely.

I can drive there in 15 minutes. 19k of free access in my backyard gone.

Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746316
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Decision was made a long time ago. Don't blame scotch, blame policy.

Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746321
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What exactly did the black pine snake have to do with the closing of the property?

Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: James] #1746335
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Originally Posted By: James
Wouldn't doubt it..The government is screwing the landowners! Hell I'd pull my property to


Care to explain?

Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746338
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They raped the land anyway. Not many trees left.

I hunted it back in the 90's and it was some fine country.


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Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: Mbrock] #1746342
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Originally Posted By: Mbrock

Originally Posted By: James
Wouldn't doubt it..The government is screwing the landowners! Hell I'd pull my property to


Care to explain?


I would. But not on a public forum.

Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746344
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I been hunting down there 30 years gonna be hard to tell me they didn't know it was coming the way they cut Timber last two years. Somebody knowed this was comeing . I said this year when I saw it looked like a dessert it wouldn't surprise me if they were fixed to shut it down like Boykin. Timber hasn't been cut like this since I been going to it.

Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: timbercruiser] #1746349
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
What exactly did the black pine snake have to do with the closing of the property?


I was wondering the same thing. Got to be a back story to this.


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Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: Rebelman] #1746351
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Originally Posted By: Rebelman

Originally Posted By: Mbrock

Originally Posted By: James
Wouldn't doubt it..The government is screwing the landowners! Hell I'd pull my property to


Care to explain?


I would. But not on a public forum.
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Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746352
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U ain't lived to you been setting in the middle of that place and heard them cut close to 200 dogs loose all around ya. I've had some fun down there but she is gone know

Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746357
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The more I think about this the more it begins to add up. It ain't luck that this wma is closing and nothing has been said about it, and then the state is decided out of the goodness of there heart to open another wma for dog hunting this year that was closed to it the last several years and let a man from the ADA run the hunt instead of the state. Who is buddies with Mr. Sykes

Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746369
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I have never hunted on a WMA, but I sure hate to hear that for those that have........


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Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746377
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doc bar - that's a lot of assumptions!

For the record, I stated it's understandable and likely would do the exact same thing.

That doesn't change my view on the money game of hunting, especially in the south. I believe clearly there will be a day when I will not hunt due to finances, and there will be no options. That's ok, because hunting is not an important part of life - it's just a hobby. It's just disheartening how little public land is available in southern states.

Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: timbercruiser] #1746382
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
What exactly did the black pine snake have to do with the closing of the property?


I suspect the pine snake thing to be a cover for the real reason BUT......

I guess they could think that unfettered access to the property for Gov employees could result in Pine Snake sightings resulting in loss of land use. In other words not being able to manage the land as they see fit due to the existence of an endangered or "threatened" species. Just like the tracts in Monroe County that can't be cut due to the Red Hill Salamander or the Red Cockaded Woodpecker.


Don't get me wrong, I'm all for species being preserved but they go about it ALL wrong. They essentially "take" the land (or its value) by restricting the landowners right to harvest timber, or other management steps he might wish to take. The natural reaction if a landowner sees something like that on his place now is to get rid of it, quickly).

If there was some sort of compensation for not being able to use his land as he wishes (darn those pesky private property rights) there might be more people incentivized to help propagate the species.

Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746393
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There's two thoughts going on here.

- Don't blame these landowner's. There's not enough incentive to be enrolled, when other options are available. Not one person who gets upset about it would likely have it enrolled either.

- public land in the south (AL especially), will continue to lose acres unless something changes. But it probably won't change. And that's concerning.

Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746396
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I hate it for y'all that hunt it but I don't blame Scotch. Call me crazy but I believe the federal government will make up anything without scientific research to back it up to stop any and all hunting.


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Re: Scotch WMA closing down [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #1746400
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Its their land, they own it, it was a privilege that they let the public use it for so long. They really did not have to give any explanation but they felt they needed to. So that's that. They may sell it soon, so what, its none of our business what they do with it now.


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