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Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691537
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I believe that Almighty God created everything, whether it was by a big explosion or by magic.

I think that every time an important scientific discovery is made, it just magnifies the wisdom and greatness of Him.

Which is more impressive: someone who can pull a bunny out of a hat into existence, or one that can conceive and plot the genetic makeup and plumb all the physiology together to make it live and breath?

No, I'm quite a fan.



Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: jono23] #1691539
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Originally Posted By: jono23
Tower of Babel.


another good one ^,... you can read any of a dozen different opinions on the height of the tower, but they're all crazy talk. The most common being 3 times the height of the tallest building on earth now, (1.6 miles tall). Some being as high as 4 miles.

Id be a lot more accepting of it if it was billed as a miracle and God was the architect and general contractor of the project. That would be fine. But its not, it just said they did it. Which makes me think its a story, meant to help us learn a lesson.

Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691541
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You have got to be kidding me.


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Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: jbc] #1691547
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Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: jono23
Tower of Babel.


another good one ^,... you can read any of a dozen different opinions on the height of the tower, but they're all crazy talk. The most common being 3 times the height of the tallest building on earth now, (1.6 miles tall). Some being as high as 4 miles.

Id be a lot more accepting of it if it was billed as a miracle and God was the architect and general contractor of the project. That would be fine. But its not, it just said they did it. Which makes me think its a story, meant to help us learn a lesson.


Its not that hard to imagine if people lived and worked on a tower for hundreds of years


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Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Geno] #1691551
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Originally Posted By: Geno
You have got to be kidding me.


Afraid not Mr. Geno. Better stick your head in the sand with the crowd.


It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: 87dixieboy] #1691552
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Originally Posted By: 87dixieboy
Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: jono23
Tower of Babel.


another good one ^,... you can read any of a dozen different opinions on the height of the tower, but they're all crazy talk. The most common being 3 times the height of the tallest building on earth now, (1.6 miles tall). Some being as high as 4 miles.

Id be a lot more accepting of it if it was billed as a miracle and God was the architect and general contractor of the project. That would be fine. But its not, it just said they did it. Which makes me think its a story, meant to help us learn a lesson.


Its not that hard to imagine if people lived and worked on a tower for hundreds of years


We couldnt't do that now. Therefor, it is very very hard to imagine.

Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691553
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Interesting points on the Water Canopy Theory...

"Since water vapor has the ability both to transmit incoming solar radiation and to retain and disperse much of the radiation reflected from the earth’s surface, it would serve as a global greenhouse, maintaining an essentially uniformly pleasant warm temperature all over the world.

With nearly uniform temperatures, great air-mass movements would be inhibited and windstorms would be unknown.

With no global air circulation, the hydrologic cycle of the present world could not be implemented and there could be no rain, except directly over the bodies of water from which it might have evaporated.

With no global air circulation, and therefore no turbulence or dust particles transported to the upper atmosphere, the water vapor in the canopy would have been stable and not precipitate itself.

The planet would have been maintained not only at uniform temperatures but also at comfortable uniform humidities by means of daily local evaporation and condensation (like dew, or ground fog) in each day-night cycle.

The combination of warm temperature and adequate moisture everywhere would be conducive later to extensive stands of lush vegetation all over the world, with no barren deserts or ice caps.

A vapor canopy would also be highly effective in filtering out ultraviolet radiations, cosmic rays, and other destructive energies from outer space. These are known to be the source of both somatic and genetic mutations, which decrease the viability of the individual and the species, respectively. Thus the canopy would contribute effectively to human and animal health and longevity.

Some have objected to the idea of a heavy vapor canopy because of the great increase in atmospheric pressure which it would cause at the earth’s surface. Rather than being a problem, however, this effect would contribute still further to health and longevity. Modern biomedical research is increasingly proving that such “hyperbaric” pressures are very effective in combating disease and in promoting good health generally. There should be no problem in organisms living under high external pressures, provided their internal pressures had time to adjust correspondingly.

Later, when needed, these upper waters would provide the reservoir from which God would send the great Flood, to save the godly remnant from the hopelessly corrupt population of that day (the content of water vapor in the present atmosphere, if all precipitated, would cover the earth only to a depth of about one inch)."


Interesting verse in the Bible:

"And God said, 'Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.' So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so." - Genesis 1:6-7

Neat to think about that...

Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: 87dixieboy] #1691555
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[/quote]Its not that hard to imagine if people lived and worked on a tower for hundreds of years [/quote]

Yep, the Chinese fooled around on the Great Wall for a couple THOUSAND years.



Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: AUstan23] #1691556
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Originally Posted By: AUstan23
Originally Posted By: Geno
You have got to be kidding me.


Afraid not Mr. Geno. Better stick your head in the sand with the crowd.


I am trying to keep my head above the sand being shoveled by others man.....................


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Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: jbc] #1691561
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Originally Posted By: jbc


We couldn't do that now. It is very very hard to imagine.


I can assure anyone that without structural steel and reinforced and pre-stressed concrete it would have been impossible for an ancient civilization to have built any tower of any height close to what we can build today. The Egyptian pyramids and Roman arches notwithstanding... grin

Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Deadwood] #1691562
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Originally Posted By: Deadwood
[/quote]Its not that hard to imagine if people lived and worked on a tower for hundreds of years


Yep, the Chinese fooled around on the Great Wall for a couple THOUSAND years. [/quote]

Building a wall is a little different than a tower. The pyramids are an impressive feat, lots of sweat. I'm not questioning their determination and effort, I'm saying its technologically possible.

Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691578
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I'm just not diggin' any "thousands of feet high" story. Masonry and mud by itself ain't gonna support itself laterally for very high without crushing. Then they have to engineer for sway from wind,etc.

There probably was a Tower of Babel, but it's gotten better every time it was retold.



Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: FurFlyin] #1691602
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Originally Posted By: FurFlyin
I believe every single word of what the Bible says. The inerrant and infallible word of God, written by man, inspired by God.



X2. If any of it is false then none of it can be believed. I don't get to pick and choose what's convenient. What seems impossible to me is of no consequence to God.


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Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691607
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I for one am not saying any of the Bible is false just having a discussion.



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Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: bama1157] #1691609
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Originally Posted By: bama1157
I for one am not saying any of the Bible is false just having a discussion.


I don't think anyone is saying anything is false.

I just don't know if some stories started out as parables and ended up getting passed down as fact.

Either way the meaning is the same

Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: Irishguy] #1691611
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There are just some things man just isn't suppose to understand and I agree with bill. Someone cant just pick and choose things in the bible. Either it is truth or it isn't.


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Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: 87dixieboy] #1691623
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Originally Posted By: 87dixieboy
There are just some things man just isn't suppose to understand and I agree with bill. Someone cant just pick and choose things in the bible. Either it is truth or it isn't.


Either it's 1) truth, or 2) it's not,... Or 3)It was never intended to be taken as truth.

this is my only point. I like everyone else have no idea, but it's an enjoyable discussion

Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1691626
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This thread could get interesting



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Re: Bible Stories - True, False or In Between? [Re: leroycnbucks] #1691628
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Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
This thread could get interesting



Yep. Two things I learned real quick on Aldeer. Never question anything religion or Toyota trucks. grin


Or cornbread ingredients

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