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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
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02/22/16 06:29 AM
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To me the people on this site continually trying to tear down Trump are doing everything that they can to put Hillary in the white house and possibly Obama on the supreme court. That will destroy this country forever. If Trump sucks we can correct that next election. If Hillary wins we are DONE. If Hillary wins our country will be no more. Bye, bye 2nd amendment, abortions will be legal until the baby is crying, the internet will be taxes, there will be no free speech on the internet.
Winner. I am not a Trump supporter per se, but he will get my vote if he's the Republican nominee. I don't care what anyone says, if you write in a vote for someone other than the nominee, you are fracturing the party and you might as well cast it for Hillary. You think the liberals will be writing in Mickey Mouse candidates on their ballot instead of the Democratic nominee? Spot on both of you.
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
[Re: Beer Belly]
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02/22/16 06:31 AM
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bama1157
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If trump wins the nomination then you can take it to the bank that Hillary will be our next pres.. She will tear Trump a new one in a heart beat plus i am not sure that he is not a plant for Hillary to enable her a better chance....
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
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02/22/16 06:32 AM
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To me the people on this site continually trying to tear down Trump are doing everything that they can to put Hillary in the white house and possibly Obama on the supreme court. That will destroy this country forever. If Trump sucks we can correct that next election. If Hillary wins we are DONE. If Hillary wins our country will be no more. Bye, bye 2nd amendment, abortions will be legal until the baby is crying, the internet will be taxes, there will be no free speech on the internet.
Winner. I am not a Trump supporter per se, but he will get my vote if he's the Republican nominee. I don't care what anyone says, if you write in a vote for someone other than the nominee, you are fracturing the party and you might as well cast it for Hillary. You think the liberals will be writing in Mickey Mouse candidates on their ballot instead of the Democratic nominee? Exactly the way I feel about it.
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
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02/22/16 06:43 AM
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
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02/22/16 06:54 AM
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BB My problem with Trump is that less than 2 years ago he held the exact same position's on every issue that Hillary holds and I can not get past the feeling that Trump is just saying what ever he has to to get elected...I mean he just said last week that he supports the insurance mandate and a single payer system just like they have in England....
I have not bashed anyone nor will I. Just trying to do what I think is right.. People keep repeating this crap as if it's some mantra and if they chant it often enough it will be true. It's not. It won't be. Be an adult and just stop it. Even the liberal Politifact agrees. Trump hasn't released a Healthcare plan, so he isn't endorsing Obamacare, it's just BS. Our system has ALWAYS taken care of the indigent for emergency care, the hospitals has always passed it on through higher costs for paying customers. It just isn't so.
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
[Re: Beer Belly]
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02/22/16 07:01 AM
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Vulkanman
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I'm not a Trump supporter, I don't like his TV shows, I don't agree with a lot of his politics, he's an egotistical ass but if he's the nominee he'll get my vote because I care about this country. As I will for Cruz, Rubio or Carson. They all have opinions that I differ with, but is better than the alternative.
Those who have seemingly devoted their lives to shredding him in some deranged support for candidates who are dropping out of the race are irritating to say the least and raise the question in my mind if they are simply trolls making an attempt to so confuse the issue that conservatives don't vote.
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
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02/22/16 07:06 AM
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bill
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BB My problem with Trump is that less than 2 years ago he held the exact same position's on every issue that Hillary holds and I can not get past the feeling that Trump is just saying what ever he has to to get elected...I mean he just said last week that he supports the insurance mandate and a single payer system just like they have in England....
I have not bashed anyone nor will I. Just trying to do what I think is right.. People keep repeating this crap as if it's some mantra and if they chant it often enough it will be true. It's not. It won't be. Be an adult and just stop it. Even the liberal Politifact agrees. Trump hasn't released a Healthcare plan, so he isn't endorsing Obamacare, it's just BS. Our system has ALWAYS taken care of the indigent for emergency care, the hospitals has always passed it on through higher costs for paying customers. It just isn't so. Trump actually did say he likes Obamacares individual mandate just a few days ago. He's also stated several times in the past that he was for universal healthcare. There is no need to make anything up about Donald. There is a ton of video out there proving his liberal ideology. https://www.ijreview.com/2016/02/541646-...-cnn-town-hall/
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
[Re: bill]
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02/22/16 07:17 AM
02/22/16 07:17 AM
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Vulkanman
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BB My problem with Trump is that less than 2 years ago he held the exact same position's on every issue that Hillary holds and I can not get past the feeling that Trump is just saying what ever he has to to get elected...I mean he just said last week that he supports the insurance mandate and a single payer system just like they have in England....
I have not bashed anyone nor will I. Just trying to do what I think is right.. People keep repeating this crap as if it's some mantra and if they chant it often enough it will be true. It's not. It won't be. Be an adult and just stop it. Even the liberal Politifact agrees. Trump hasn't released a Healthcare plan, so he isn't endorsing Obamacare, it's just BS. Our system has ALWAYS taken care of the indigent for emergency care, the hospitals has always passed it on through higher costs for paying customers. It just isn't so. Trump actually did say he likes Obamacares individual mandate just a few days ago. He's also stated several times in the past that he was for universal healthcare. There is no need to make anything up about Donald. There is a ton of video out there proving his liberal ideology. https://www.ijreview.com/2016/02/541646-...-cnn-town-hall/ A video from 2012 of Ron Paul proves it? Try watching the actual segment instead of seizing on a sentence: Here's the video:
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
[Re: Beer Belly]
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02/22/16 07:18 AM
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I'm with BB. U just as well learn to stomach Trump. If not you not going to like the smell Hilary brings to the oval office
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
[Re: Beer Belly]
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02/22/16 07:19 AM
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Vulkanman
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I gotta ask: do you truly believe that the indigent should be turned away to die?
I'll state again that ALL forms of welfare should be limited and ALL disability claims should be vetted and periodically reviewed, and I believe that fraud & bureaucracy are the most expensive costs in our government.
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
[Re: Beer Belly]
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02/22/16 07:20 AM
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bill
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Again: you guys using Obama as an example of an inept president is one of the dumbest things that I have read. Obama has accomplished more in 7yrs than any other president in history.
It is all bad for this country, but that was his plan. Stop using Obama not being successful, because it is complete BS.
He has: - run out debt to levels that we may never recover - sold 1/2 of our country to the Chinese including ports - completely effed up the middle east - zero enforcement of our southern border - has nearly created race wars in our streets - has destroyed the middle class - has created the most effed up medical system that may have people screaming for a single payer solution
Those are all bad, from our perspective. If your objective was to destroy this country, how could you have hoped to do better? He has done amazing things to advance his cause.
I agree with you, here.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
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02/22/16 07:25 AM
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BB My problem with Trump is that less than 2 years ago he held the exact same position's on every issue that Hillary holds and I can not get past the feeling that Trump is just saying what ever he has to to get elected...I mean he just said last week that he supports the insurance mandate and a single payer system just like they have in England....
I have not bashed anyone nor will I. Just trying to do what I think is right.. People keep repeating this crap as if it's some mantra and if they chant it often enough it will be true. It's not. It won't be. Be an adult and just stop it. Even the liberal Politifact agrees. Trump hasn't released a Healthcare plan, so he isn't endorsing Obamacare, it's just BS. Our system has ALWAYS taken care of the indigent for emergency care, the hospitals has always passed it on through higher costs for paying customers. It just isn't so. Trump actually did say he likes Obamacares individual mandate just a few days ago. He's also stated several times in the past that he was for universal healthcare. There is no need to make anything up about Donald. There is a ton of video out there proving his liberal ideology. https://www.ijreview.com/2016/02/541646-...-cnn-town-hall/ A video from 2012 of Ron Paul proves it? Try watching the actual segment instead of seizing on a sentence: Here's the video: Wrong link. Here it is. http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/02/19/donald-trump-says-supports-obamacare-mandate/
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
[Re: bama1157]
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02/22/16 07:25 AM
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SuperSpike
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If trump wins the nomination then you can take it to the bank that Hillary will be our next pres.. She will tear Trump a new one in a heart beat plus i am not sure that he is not a plant for Hillary to enable her a better chance.... This is my stance exactly on the whole trump scam.
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
[Re: Beer Belly]
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02/22/16 08:12 AM
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Everyone climbing on their soap box, patting themselves on the back, claiming that they are going to write in Cruz are too dumb to realize that they are voting to destroy this country FOREVER. Or until we can get more votes on the supreme court with a conservative in the white house. That may never happen again with the problems that our country will face with Hillary in charge. First, we aren't even really into the heat of the Primaries yet. Trump hasn't really won anything but 2 states so far. Second, Only positive votes for a non-conservative will destroy this country or either radically facilitate a major change in this country for the worse. Let's talk about who is really the dumb out there. That is where any blame should reside. 1. The pinheads who voted for Obama 2. The pinheads who voted in majority power to the Dems in the house and senate which led to Obamacare and other horrid policies. 3. The pinheads who keep re-electing liberal Republicans who love to spend $, love to tax, and love to help pass Progressive legislation and regulations. 4. The pinheads who are currently supporting Clinton and Sanders. 5. The pinheads who fall hook, line and sinker for showmanship, speeches and one liners and who are so shallow that they will not dive into the issues. 6. The pinheads who can't see the forest for the trees. If anyone here supports Trump because you align with and agree with his character, his morals, his principles, his ideology, his policies, and his vision for our country then you have found your candidate and you should vote for him. I'll never begrudge anyone, ANYONE, for voting from their principles. Even if I do not share those same principles. All I wish for in return is the same support. Perhaps in this age of indoctrination and instant gratification many find it hard to understand voting as a sacred honor and that voting based on personal beliefs and principles is something to be be held high. Perhaps this is why anyone opposed to Trump in the General Election is called dumb, stupid, supporter of Hilary, wiling to put our country in jeopardy, etc... That's pretty sad. But I'm not surprised. Just look at what our nation has become today. The character of the American populace is at the lowest in history. Striving for what is Noble, Honorable, Virtuous, Good, Just and Right---well it is almost archaic. When will "we" wake up and realize that it isn't just the elected that are ruining this great nation from the inside out...it is the ELECTORATE that is equally corrupted and who we put into office is a mere reflection of the people's wants and desires. The ONLY tried and true, proven way for our nation to do a 180 degree turn is for a true spiritual awakening and revival to commence in the hearts and minds of the American public where we repent and turn back to God Almighty and allow Jesus Christ to be our Lord. Principle based. Absolute Truth based. Christ Centered. God loving. Everything else is politics which is eroding. SMH. May God have mercy on our nation.
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
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02/22/16 08:15 AM
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Again, I am not a Trump supporter. I intend to vote for Cruz in the primary. I'm just a guy who's trying to make sense of what I see. Thus far, Trump has defied all the experts who keep predicting his demise. Most Americans should know that historically there is always very low voter turnout, somewhere to the tune of only 30% of eligible voters show up to participate. I think by virtue of Trump not being a career politician, that number will go up. Also, don't discount his ability to pull voters from the other side in the general election. I'm not sure any other politician in this race could do that. Trump's star power and moderate stance on some issues has the power to swing the pendulum for some Dem voters. I believe that. I think that's one reason he'll continue to defy the "experts".
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
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Re: My stance on Trump & the Trump bashers on aldeer
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02/22/16 08:17 AM
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BamaFan64
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I honestly don't know how a Trump presidency would play out. In one sense, there are many unknowns. On the plus side, he has done something that many of us have wanted to see happen to the Republican party. For years, they have ignored those of us only asking them to do what they promised when put into office. Every time the argument was made to them, they responded only with more empty promises or trying to sell us on their brand of conservatism. Using Bradley Byrne as an example, he claims to be against amnesty, Planned Parenthood, and other Obama favorites, but several times voted to fund them. His excuse? Shutting down the federal government could hurt them on election day {even though the Republicans took the majority in Congress AFTER a shutdown). Sadly, even a Democratic win still doesn't hurt establishment Republicans in DC. It's still business as usual for them, just a little less power.
I've watched this political theater for years, and I feel a Rubio presidency will only be more of what we've seen in the past. He'll make some promises, but in the end, someone in the party will steer him in the "right" direction if he goes against the establishment party members. Trump may or may not do this, as well as Cruz, who is also despised by many in the party.
At my age, with what I've seen over the years, I'll take a chance on Cruz first, Trump if he ends up with the nomination. If Rubio gets nominated, I'll write in Cruz. No shows at the polls can be dismissed by the party next time they push a McCain, Romney or Rubio on us where write ins are tangible evidence we're not buying what they're selling anymore.
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