Everybody's grandmammy and wife will all the sudden start hunting. They may not even have to leave the house to fill their tags.

Come again.

I'm talking fraud

Yet another rule (like gun control) that would only apply to the honest folks.

the grandmammy and the wife would have to complete hunter safety education course to receive the tags. Seems like a lot of trouble to kill a few extra deer.

Of course. Daughters, wives, mothers, stepmothers, sons, the neighbors ...

Won't be much trouble, jbc. They'll do it. Folks always figure out the get-arounds, just like now it's easy to pick up 10 regulation booklets or print off extra "harvest" reports and keep right on hunting.

Can't hunter Ed be done all online now? Maybe a field day, but I'm thinking maybe not anymore? Either way, for 30-40 years of double deer tags, it seems easy enough.

I went and sat in a class room at the downtown YMCA in Tuscaloosa and listened to a game warden do a 3 hour class, then took a test. But that's been a while ago.

My wife would tell me to go fly a kite if I told her to do that for me to kill a few extra deer.

Internet would change things.

But then you would have to buy all those licenses. Still seems like a hassle.

And then, only a matter of time via the direction we are headed, there will be Landowner Tags, and Govenor's Tags, and Special-Use Tags......

It will be who you know and what you have.

I used to have a neighbor that was from Pennsylvania originally. When he was younger and lived at home, he wasn't into hunting but his dad would buy him a license and kill deer under his son's license then make him go with him to check them in.

Jbc, clearly the redneck does not run deep enough with you!

At least they will have to pay for a liscense to get them. I'm ok with kids and 65+ having to pay to get the tags also. A lot of states separate liscense cost and tag cost.

Oh great, more fees!

Tell you this much, you have whatever few 65-yo hunters who are exempt from buying a license but tell them they have to get a "hunting card/number" and tags and report those to the state, those hunters will say "Screw this" and quit hunting or take the chance on getting/not getting caught.

Same for kids who are less than 16 and don't need a license. Daddy has to get their tags, keep up with them, maybe for multiple kids ... we'll see how much 'hunting heritage' matters to some of them.

IF a reporting 'tag' system is put into place, it will be a severe generational change and it will NOT matter that we've had a voluntary system for years, discussed all this for years, other states have done this for years and so forth. What matters is when the puck drops and chit starts gettin' real here after years of not having them, people are going to not know about it, ignore it, get frustrated and quit, or bitch to their legislators. Or all of the above.

It probably won't be easy. Generational change on a significant level never is.

I agree Clem. And hunting heritage = gun heritage, which is already eroding everywhere.

They could make the fine strong enough to curb the cheating.

If you get caught with a buck without a tag with your name and your license number and your signature on it,..,

$1000 fine and loss of license for 2 seasons

People would get with the program

With about 60% staffing of GW's as we are running now, WHO is gonna check em and write em up?

The fear of Fines has no Merit without the Fear of actually getting caught!!!!

jbc, they "could" make it stronger but in the past that has been an uphill battle and, I figure, you probably know that.

"night hunting" and poaching offenses were piddly-ass fines for years. DCNR could confiscate guns, vehicles and such but it was a pain in the ass and judges usually heard some sob-ass story from the mouthbreathing poacher about he couldn't get to th' fac'try to put bread on the table for his kids.

Those fines finally got jacked up a few years ago. It still doesn't deter people.


So, to your point, yeah, they could make the fines and penalties strong enough FROM THE START if they go to a tele-check system. Anyone who has hunted in other states with tags knows the deal there. Tag that critter before putting it in the truck. Don't and get caught, and your ass is in 14 kinds of hot water and they don't care if you're from out of state, mentally ill, visiting from Italy or whatever.

Your proposed penalty and fine sounds plausible, but it wouldn't get a sniff of a chance to be put into action. Especially for turkeys.

You are correct , but with a possible $1,000 fine it would make some people think twice. You would not be likely to be caught , but it would be in the back of your mind. Wouldnt stop all people , but I bet it would stop 50% of people that go over the limit right now.

Naa, it wouldn't.